Superbowl XLI

[Tyche]

for people that think the Bears can't win, i give you the Florida Gators.

i think the Colts will win still but it's going to be a close game unless turnovers or special teams break it wide open.

That is a poor poor comparison. The florida gators actually had a really really good team, it's just the fact that ESPN make the polls, and have a TV contract with the big ten. They inflate the big ten to be a lot tougher than they really are. This superbowl reminds me of the World series to be honest. You have the bears/tigers analogy (Team that performed really well and kind of dwindled toward the end of the season, everyone expected to lose early in the playoffs), vs a colts/cards analogy (been one of the best teams in baseball for a few years, and the year they have absolutely no expectations to win anything at all, they continue to surprise people and win). It's a really good parallel.

[dietvanillapepsi]

Bears have been winning DESPITE Grossman. Yesterday's win was all Bears D and special teams constantly putting the offense in good starting field position and taking the pressure off.

I think it will be a different story when a coach has two weeks to put together a strategy to expose Rex for the mediocre QB he is. If Indy can take care of the ball and force Grossman to march down the whole field then I like their chances.

At this point I think either team can win but I am leaning towards the more complete, veteran Colts.

Vegas is favoring the Colts +7.

[Kyreth]

My heart says the Bears, my head says "Too close to call".

Both teams are freaking hungry for the win here. They're motivated, the game prior for each was a major boost, and they're going into the final stretch with a full head of steam on a collision course and a solid team setup.

Honestly, I haven't seen two semifinal games in the NFL that were this good in a decade, if not more. The Colts have an edge on intestinal fortitude, but not by much. The Bears can produce in post-season play a bit better IMHO- but again, not by much. Neither coach strikes me as someone who'll second-guess, panic, or even blink in this matchup.

Whoever wins, or loses- both are worthy champions. I have to root for Chicago cause it's the family favorite though.

[Daahan]

Bears have been winning DESPITE Grossman. Yesterday's win was all Bears D and special teams constantly putting the offense in good starting field position and taking the pressure off.

What about Thomas Jones's prolific rushing against the Saints? He's the one that basically sealed the deal yesterday. Cedric Benson rushed through them like tissue paper, his TD also helped seal the deal.

Grossman was not completely without merit. He put together an excellent drive leading to the Berrian Touchdown. (btw, that had to be one of the greatest TD catches ever. Caught it as he was falling down, and did a backward somersault in to the endzone). The rest of the game he wasn't able to do much, but he's shown that he's capable of making the necessary big plays. If you don't want to look at the Saints game, then look at the Seahawks game.

The Bears have a really good chance at this game. If Grossman can remain consistent, then the game looks to be an offensive showdown.

[Scythiroth]

Bears will win because obviously, a bear is stronger than a horse.

[Anyway]

bears are godless killing machines.

[Headspace]

I hear they can smell the menstruation

[dietvanillapepsi]

Bears have been winning DESPITE Grossman. Yesterday's win was all Bears D and special teams constantly putting the offense in good starting field position and taking the pressure off.

What about Thomas Jones's prolific rushing against the Saints? He's the one that basically sealed the deal yesterday. Cedric Benson rushed through them like tissue paper, his TD also helped seal the deal.

Grossman was not completely without merit. He put together an excellent drive leading to the Berrian Touchdown. (btw, that had to be one of the greatest TD catches ever. Caught it as he was falling down, and did a backward somersault in to the endzone). The rest of the game he wasn't able to do much, but he's shown that he's capable of making the necessary big plays. If you don't want to look at the Saints game, then look at the Seahawks game.

The Bears have a really good chance at this game. If Grossman can remain consistent, then the game looks to be an offensive showdown.

The Saints were stuffing the run in the first half. Grossman's numbers were pathetic in that first half. He was 3/22 for 37 yds. 30 of the 37 was on one pass play. Toss out that one play and he's 2/21 for 7 yds. Still think he's Sexy Rexy?

I still stand by my statement that it was the defense that took the pressure off Grossman by putting him in great field position. Even tho he couldn't do anything with it, they were usually in field goal position anyway. Besides the Berrian TD, the other TD's were setup by turnovers and good running.

As for the Berrian TD, that was all Berrian and the defender. Grossman threw into a receiver that was covered all the way. He was fortunate that the defender never looked for the ball until it was too late. He gambled and won.

The Bears will win if they continue to "Trent Dilfer" him by limiting his influence on the outcome of the game. In fact they baby him so much that it seems like they even have to tell him how to wipe his ass. He is no field general, that's for sure.

I have seen a couple games this season when he is trying to run a hurry up offense but he wastes so much time because he is clueless on what to do. Good luck if the Bears are down a score with 2 mins left in the game.

At the same time, I kinda want the Bears to win just so Mr. Commercial can go home crying again wondering if he is the next Marino.

[Vinto]

/ Kokomo

alot of indiana ppl in here, westfield IN.

Colts gonna dominate as long as peyton can keep his head firmly outside of his ass.

[Daahan]

Bears have been winning DESPITE Grossman. Yesterday's win was all Bears D and special teams constantly putting the offense in good starting field position and taking the pressure off.

What about Thomas Jones's prolific rushing against the Saints? He's the one that basically sealed the deal yesterday. Cedric Benson rushed through them like tissue paper, his TD also helped seal the deal.

Grossman was not completely without merit. He put together an excellent drive leading to the Berrian Touchdown. (btw, that had to be one of the greatest TD catches ever. Caught it as he was falling down, and did a backward somersault in to the endzone). The rest of the game he wasn't able to do much, but he's shown that he's capable of making the necessary big plays. If you don't want to look at the Saints game, then look at the Seahawks game.

The Bears have a really good chance at this game. If Grossman can remain consistent, then the game looks to be an offensive showdown.

The Saints were stuffing the run in the first half. Grossman's numbers were pathetic in that first half. He was 3/22 for 37 yds. 30 of the 37 was on one pass play. Toss out that one play and he's 2/21 for 7 yds. Still think he's Sexy Rexy?

I still stand by my statement that it was the defense that took the pressure off Grossman by putting him in great field position. Even tho he couldn't do anything with it, they were usually in field goal position anyway. Besides the Berrian TD, the other TD's were setup by turnovers and good running.

As for the Berrian TD, that was all Berrian and the defender. Grossman threw into a receiver that was covered all the way. He was fortunate that the defender never looked for the ball until it was too late. He gambled and won.

The Bears will win if they continue to "Trent Dilfer" him by limiting his influence on the outcome of the game. In fact they baby him so much that it seems like they even have to tell him how to wipe his ass. He is no field general, that's for sure.

I have seen a couple games this season when he is trying to run a hurry up offense but he wastes so much time because he is clueless on what to do. Good luck if the Bears are down a score with 2 mins left in the game.

At the same time, I kinda want the Bears to win just so Mr. Commercial can go home crying again wondering if he is the next Marino.

I fail to see where I called him Sexy Rexy. If you read my posts, you will see that I mentioned that he only had a so-so game, and I was only talking about ONE good drive.

And as far as Grossman throwing to Berrian: do you even watch football? When a QB sees a wide reciever heading down the field and he's only up against single coverage, the QB is going to try to throw the ball past the defender and to the reciever. Berrian was in front of the defender when Grossman threw the ball. The pass kind of sucked, but it went over the Defender's head, and Berrian made a play on the ball. So no, it was not "all Berrian and the defender." Grossman placed the ball where it was supposed to be, and Berrian got the TD.

edit: of course he hasn't been able to be a solid leader yet. He's basically a rookie. Last season didn't count for crap, seeing that he was injured for most of it, and the season before that too. Rex Grossman is not a Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, or Drew Brees, but he's good. Just plain ol' good. As far as the rock bottom he hit 2 months ago, he has gotten over that. He's only turned the ball over twice in the playoffs. He didn't protect the ball in that fumble against the Seahawks, and then he threw the interception in that game too, which was barely his fault because Muhammad couldn't catch it. There were no turnovers against the Saints.

Peyton Manning played pretty crappy in the first half of yesterday's game too, but he found a rythym and came back in to the game for the win. Grossman experienced similar yesterday, only he wasn't as explosive as Manning was.

[Koyuki]

Announcers on TV said that Rex ohgodyousuckman plays off confidence.

Easy way for the Colts to win?

Have everybody call him a pussy before the game.

He'll hate himself and go /emo thereby giving the colts the win


.If anyone takes this seriously I'll cry

[Tyche]

Dahaan, quit defending rex, he sucks, god damn, just admit it. Grossman getting even remotely close to the lambardi trophy would tarnish it forever. The bears defense is who needs to be holding that trophy if they should win. As far as their rushing game, benson was getting completely shut down in that game, all his rushes were very short, i think his longest was like 10 or 12 yards. Thomas jones had a little more consistancy running the ball, but i wouldn't call it "tearing through the saints defense". Bears didn't have a huge game offensively at all. Grossman made 1 or 2 big plays (Saints are worst in the NFL in giving up big plays), but only completed 11 passes, and the rushing attack was getting stuffed most of the game. Their defense carrying them in the field posistion game won it (39 points on ONLY 340 total yards, it was all field position). Also, 50 rushes and not a single holding call the entire game...cmon. Bears won that game, but their offense in no way tore through the saints.

[Daahan]

I'll be more than happy to admit that Grossman is not Pro-Bowl QB or one of the best QB's in the NFL right now, but he doesn't "suck" either. He's an average QB that's still learning the game and I expect him to get better in the future.

Brett Favre played like shit in a lot of games at the beginning of his career, but he turned out to be one of the greatest NFL QB's.

Once again, average QB that has the ability/potential to get the job done.

I think it was Chris Berman on ESPN yesterday said that if a player has bad games/plays, then every single one of his good games/plays are overshadowed. I'm sorry Tyche, but no matter which way you look at it, a team that has a QB that "sucks" does not make it to the superbowl. There were a few games where Rex played poorly and our defense saved our asses, but there were even more games where Rex was a main contribution to the win.

[Lbelle]

I'm going to be rooting for the Bears, but wouldn't be surprised if the Colts actually take it.

[Tyche]

I'll be more than happy to admit that Grossman is not Pro-Bowl QB or one of the best QB's in the NFL right now, but he doesn't "suck" either. He's an average QB that's still learning the game and I expect him to get better in the future.

Brett Favre played like shit in a lot of games at the beginning of his career, but he turned out to be one of the greatest NFL QB's.

Once again, average QB that has the ability/potential to get the job done.

I think it was Chris Berman on ESPN yesterday said that if a player has bad games/plays, then every single one of his good games/plays are overshadowed. I'm sorry Tyche, but no matter which way you look at it, a team that has a QB that "sucks" does not make it to the superbowl. There were a few games where Rex played poorly and our defense saved our asses, but there were even more games where Rex was a main contribution to the win.

I certainly hope you aren't getting at grossman has potential to be one of the best QBs ever in that brett favre comparison. C'mon, this dude talking about mailing it in because it was New Year's Eve. "Yeah, i didnt plat well last game of the season, it was New Year's eve, i had things on my mind"

YEAH, PARTY WOOOOOOOO

Guess that can be expected from someone who has photos on the internet of himself sloshed. About as bad as michael vick smoking dro on myspace. Grossman is a fucking joke, he's the most incosistant QB in the leauge...had the second most 100+ passer ratings in the NFL, and the most sub-50 passer rating games. Id throw up seeing him with the trophy. He has the "i'm gonna air it out and pray" philisophy. Worked great against teams with poor secondaries, especially when he has talented reciever not making him look like a douche every pitch. Calling him average is an embarassment to QBs like brad johnson, Chad Pennington, and Alex Smith. Of all the starting QBs in the league, Grossman would be in my bottom 5 of who id want starting for my team. Throws a 36.8 against the 3rd best passing defense in the league against miami, a 23.6 against the 2nd best scoring defense in New England, and a 0.0 because it was new year's eve and he wanted to get wasted. I wonder what grossman would be looking like if he were in the AFC playoffs against teams like baltimore and new england. Go Grossman!

[dietvanillapepsi]

Calling him average is an embarassment to QBs like brad johnson, Chad Pennington, and Alex Smith.

I lol'ed. :D


Tyche, I don't think you're going to change Daahan's mind on this one. Looks like he's got his rose colored glasses on this one.

[Daahan]

ALRIGHT YOU GOT ME! Grossman is the worst QB to have ever played in NFL HISTORY! He has never had a good game and every time he has had a good game, it's because a thermal combustion in Gamma Universe 37 700trillion miles away was what really caused him to play great and it wasn't really him.

The Bears are better off having Punter Brad Maynard as their starting QB because he threw a 30+ yard pass in the second game against the Packers.

The Bears are better off having Bruce Gradkowski as their starting QB because Grossman is the worst of all time. He's contributed absolutely nothing to the Bears this season and we should give him zero credit.

So that's basically what you want to hear me say right?

Maybe I'm wearing rose colored glasses because I'm actually using common sense and being practical in judging Grossman. I'm not denying that he had "achieved" some of the worst QB ratings in NFL history this season, but I am accepting the fact that he's not the worst QB to ever walk in the NFL; that's what you guys are trying to do.

Quite frankly, I don't really care at this point. All I want at this point is for him to not suck in the Superbowl and not turn the ball over, and I want them to win.

[Tyche]

Sarcasm is always a great defense mechanism. Never said he was the worst QB in NFL history, just laying out the facts about grossman.

More fun facts!

This year, we have a terrible QB, whether he has future potential or not, with a second string backup that actually has a chance of being good.

Once again, the Bears offense is crystal clear EXCEPT Grossman. Berrian, Clark, Bradley, and Muhammad are all spectacular recievers, but they don't have the numbers because Grossman sucks ass.

Start Griese Bears. There is a chance he'll suck too, but I'd be willing to take that chance.

I'm really beginning to wonder why Lovie Smith does not start Brian Griese as QB. I'm willing to see it happen; after all, this season has been the rise of the second string QBs.

I know for one you won't be able to swallow your pride, but the Bears don't stink, Grossman does.

Quit swapping sides!

[Vile]

bears are godless killing machines.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ingvsBears.jpg

[Koyuki]

bears are godless killing machines.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ingvsBears.jpg

Good thing Peyton has a laser rocket arm.