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    I've been looking for a strategy to duo this, preferably with RDM+SMN, RDM+BLM, or BLM+BLM. I tried once with RDM and BLM, but MP ran low fast.

    Any info is appreciated.

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    I do this NM frequently, I can't think of anyway to duo it aside from RDM being /nin and tanking.. Its got so much HP you can't really manaburn it, one of those things that, imo, requires some form of a tank on it.

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    used to duo it every week blm+rdm, not really complex...


    grav+nuke nuke nuke bind nuke nuke nuke

    blm mp empty > double sleep2 from rdm while blm rests

    repeat until death. rdm can and should nuke too. you need to kill it before grav resist starts building, no grav will end up with a dead blm.


    edit: am I thinking of the wrong thing? Isnt bugboy the uncap ENM?

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    yea too much HP and can't be slept, even if it could be slept would probably take a while to kill then you will have to deal with repops and it would get pretty ugly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seditedi
    yea too much HP and can't be slept, even if it could be slept would probably take a while to kill then you will have to deal with repops and it would get pretty ugly.
    Repops? Doesn't he mean the ENM in Mineshaft?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuemue
    Quote Originally Posted by Seditedi
    yea too much HP and can't be slept, even if it could be slept would probably take a while to kill then you will have to deal with repops and it would get pretty ugly.
    Repops? Doesn't he mean the ENM in Mineshaft?
    thats what I thought?

    assuming he does mean the ENM, it can most definately be manaburned by 2 people in 30 minutes. as I said, I used to do it every week.

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    Yes, I'm interested in the ENM fight, not whatever that other guy is talking about.

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    ah, sorry, I had it mixed up with Rutter Sabaton NM lol. ENM is soloable by RDM and prolly BLM too.
    edit: getting to the ENM sucks though.

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    When I tried this last time, we did it as RDM/NIN and BLM/WHM and I think both our subjobs were the fault of our loss. We got it to like 40% though. /WHM on BLM's cast times were just a tad too long and I'd get whacked right as I casted. /RDM should fix that up though.

    If I happen to fuck that up, you think SMN avatar damage and BP could do the damage over 30min?

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    doubtful, you need to go pretty hard while gravity is on... we used to go rdm/drk blm/rdm

    i guess a rdm/nin could tank without giving TP while smn bps, but i still think the damage might be too little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seditedi
    ah, sorry, I had it mixed up with Rutter Sabaton NM lol. ENM is soloable by RDM and prolly BLM too.
    edit: getting to the ENM sucks though.
    Rutter Sabatons can be slept, but you melee that. The ENM is just DoT (unless you plan on sleeping it) and just waiting for it to counterstance. After it counterstance's, it takes double damage. So, don't burn too much MP off too fast, be a little patient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricen
    Quote Originally Posted by Seditedi
    ah, sorry, I had it mixed up with Rutter Sabaton NM lol. ENM is soloable by RDM and prolly BLM too.
    edit: getting to the ENM sucks though.
    Rutter Sabatons can be slept, but you melee that. The ENM is just DoT (unless you plan on sleeping it) and just waiting for it to counterstance. After it counterstance's, it takes double damage. So, don't burn too much MP off too fast, be a little patient.
    if you wait for it, it might never happen. I have killed it plenty of times 100>0 without ever seeing double damage. Go hard from the start, empty your mp, 2 sleeps for full rest to get it back, go hard again.

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    I don't know about Bionic Boost and magic damage on it, but I do know that the third time it uses Mighty Strikes it will take double damage (about 24-25% of life left). You can chainspell at that point and kill it if you have the MP for it, but the way it works out for me, I only usually have enough for 2 nukes by then, so it's hardly worth it.

    What Delekii said is absolutely correct, dump your MP as fast as you can nuking it, sleep it when empty, repeat. No need for meds or 2 hour at all if you do it right.

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    Just wondering how you guys duo the ENM when it takes 3 ppl to pull all 3 levers to get across the bridge? Ive done it with 3 ppl PLD RDM BLM.

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    any chance rdm/nin and thf can duo this

    my rdm friend sadly aint very good at tanking so odds are ill have to either play on his character for it or i tank it on thf i have seprit haste,att,dex,str, and agi builds i havent realy wasted any cash on eva build but my eva is capped and 2/4 merits in it any chance ill be able to tank it myself?

    as for my friends charcter his gear aint to great he spreads everything out over his other jobs(war75,sam and thf 70)

    sadly enough he dosent have his blm sub lvled or drk finished

    now with that all sed if i cant duo it how can i solo it on rdm.(ive had alot of exp soloing on anouther freinds rdm a a year ago but it was much better merit and gear wish) can i do it solo on rdm/nin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricen
    Quote Originally Posted by Seditedi
    ah, sorry, I had it mixed up with Rutter Sabaton NM lol. ENM is soloable by RDM and prolly BLM too.
    edit: getting to the ENM sucks though.
    Rutter Sabatons can be slept, but you melee that. The ENM is just DoT (unless you plan on sleeping it) and just waiting for it to counterstance. After it counterstance's, it takes double damage. So, don't burn too much MP off too fast, be a little patient.
    I distinctly remember being told to ES Sleep II Matsman and getting a resist, don't think its sleepable.

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    It's not Counterstance that makes him take incredible damage, if you're referring to the 1300 damage Thunder 3 and such. It's based on his 2-hours. He will use it three times, at 75 50 and 25%. First 2hr, it doesn't change his resistances, so sleep it. Second one, he takes about 25-35% more damage per nuke for the duration of the 2hr. Third one at 25%, he takes double magic damage and can easily be nuked down from there with Chainspell. Use your Sleeps sparingly, I duo with another RDM sometimes and you really just alternate nukes, binds, and gravs, and only sleep when necessary. He builds up resistance to both sleep and gravity if you use them too much. If you Chainspell with a near-full mana tank at around 35-40%, he should go down easly.

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    so do you guys jus pos to enm enterance or what >_>

    (but rly how do you operate levers with 2 people? would hermes quencher be enough time to drop down and activate a second lever? )

    as a side note, doin this with 3 smn is alot of fun, if there is a legitimate way to operate the levers with 2 people i'll try duoing it

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    y cant u just use the gob to get there i use it for my pulling the strings each week isent it the same place

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    he wont warp you if you have the operating lever for the uncapped enm (also trading the rain lily to the other gob doesnt work if you have the lever as well)...


    unless they changed this...

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