
Originally Posted by
Fide
Ok lets just say Kingkai got banned for "Bad packets".
I mean he said he POS 1 time and I am sure being in a hnm shell or leader or whatever he wasn't dumb enough to pos hack unlike some of kupo members it seems.
Syphur "Someone logging into my character while I had app running made app go all crazy and teleport" Seriouslly I highly doubt that's even possible in the 1st place. computer 1 running app for botting | computer 2 logs into account through POL. Now what happens is Servers see this computer trying to log in now it sends character on you got disconnect(Did you hear me disconnected) now how is the disconnected client pos warp around? Now lets say the person had teleport to monster when pops on I guess it might be possible since the .1 sec before disconnect it sees the monster as being popped due to how the bot works and trys to warp to that location(Due to having warping to nm on). Though I still highly doubt that would happen just because how game deals with another client logging on.
They don't ban people 1st offence from POS etc unless said shell is getting reported(Gm Calls) regularlly / has members POS a lot. Hence how Syragon claims he got banned 1st offence(Though I am not aggruing credibility) back when POS was just being made public.
Now thru evidence through ls leaders / members words / suspentions and etc. I would have to say it's safe to assum all the major NA linkshells that came kings have members in them botting some might be majority others maybe minority. Omen, Kupo, Zion, and i think those are only major NA ls camping kings. Now throughout ffxi theres has been(and most likely still are) bots that can bypass, ignore, break, and etc claim delay. I am willing to bet they have been used on Fenrir before.
My theory is he got banned for botting software that bypass claim delay. Whether he knew it did this or not is not the point. I know everyone 1 of those shells members, has atleast 1 person if not more willing to use said bot(I am not talking about members will to teleport around to claim(majority of people know that's quick ban))
I am simply refering to willingness to use a bot that will give your shell the upper hand over others. I have never actually heard of someone account banned for bypassing claim delay, I have heard rumors of stuff like that happen but no xaccount just got owned because he was bypassing claim delay.
I don't think I need to go through all the evidences that leads to either majority or minority of those shells botting. I mean if these shells feel they need to defend themselfs so be it I could careless. The point I am trying to make is reason were all botting in the 1st place so we can get the upperhand or try to even the odds.
Now Kingkai could of very well got banned for bad packets due to a faulty router or whatever. I got 3 day suspention on my brothers account duoing Ix'mnk due to the GM saying he was using 3rd pt tools to avoid hate by monster(I was running no 3rd pt tools @ the time and only thing I use is botting software). So my point is that's still a possibility due to my experince in SE in the past and something retarded like that happening to my brother account(My brother plays right next to my computer, So I would know if he ever used 3rd pt programs & I was playing him @ the time this happened(A member from another ls called gm becuase he was upset we were fighting it when they arrived)).
Now if he did actually get banned for 3rd pt tool usage imo what would make the most sence would be bypassing claim delay if that true pretty lame to lie about it but how much was / still is botting lied about even today.
Kingkai has tooken this quite far and what would be the advantiges to taking it this far, so maybe he really did get banned for bad router.
(Next class might have some things poorly worded and such but just posting what I have)