Salvage Gears anyone?

[avelle]

First piece for me and first for our shell.

http://www.risen-guild.com/avelle/ffxi/ares1.jpg

Sorry for the large screenshot. >.>

[Neosutra]

Grats Avelle.

Oh, and wanted to point out:

Someone on the top of the page stated that he ares set bonus is 10%, it is infact 5%. Set is for WS onry Q.Q.

[Therin]

Grats Avelle.

Oh, and wanted to point out:

Someone on the top of the page stated that he ares set bonus is 10%, it is infact 5%. Set is for WS onry Q.Q.

Are you sure? I've heard conflicting reports and someone even claimed to show 10% in a test. It's a bit of an abstract value though so I don't know you'd test it without a gargantuan sample size.

[Neosutra]

Grats Avelle.

Oh, and wanted to point out:

Someone on the top of the page stated that he ares set bonus is 10%, it is infact 5%. Set is for WS onry Q.Q.

Are you sure? I've heard conflicting reports and someone even claimed to show 10% in a test. It's a bit of an abstract value though so I don't know you'd test it without a gargantuan sample size.

Going by the premis that every other set provides 5% bonus and I havent seen any solid evidence to support ares being any different. I guess I cant be sure about 5% either till someone provides a decent amount of data to show otherwise.

[tickotickoticko]

Like i said in the post before, i did not do extensive testing, just because i would wear it regardless, but i did 5 sets of 100 swings 12% 13% 13% 14% 14% and 15% were the 5 numbers that i got after that.

Take it as you want, i might do more tests to get a much better idea of a actual number when i have some free time.

~ by the way i no other gear on at all other then ares's set and a Macuahuitl +1 and i was /sam.

[Khajit]

zashin?

[Neosutra]

Like i said in the post before, i did not do extensive testing, just because i would wear it regardless, but i did 5 sets of 100 swings 12% 13% 13% 14% 14% and 15% were the 5 numbers that i got after that.

Take it as you want, i might do more tests to get a much better idea of a actual number when i have some free time.

~ by the way i no other gear on at all other then ares's set and a Macuahuitl +1 and i was /sam.

Those % increases with your latent DA subtracted, no other DA gear, removal of zanshen >.>, removal of merits? To get 12-15% DA from set, you are saying you had a total DA % of 10%(latent war)+5%(merits)+2%(legs)+10%set = 27% DA rate.

And ya, need more than 100 swings Q.Q.

Not to mention: Even with 10% DA the set is inferior to TP in compared to haste build, as haste has exponential benefits, while DA is linear.

[Therin]

Like i said in the post before, i did not do extensive testing, just because i would wear it regardless, but i did 5 sets of 100 swings 12% 13% 13% 14% 14% and 15% were the 5 numbers that i got after that.

Take it as you want, i might do more tests to get a much better idea of a actual number when i have some free time.

~ by the way i no other gear on at all other then ares's set and a Macuahuitl +1 and i was /sam.

Those % increases with your latent DA subtracted, no other DA gear, removal of zanshen >.>, removal of merits? To get 12-15% DA from set, you are saying you had a total DA % of 10%(latent war)+5%(merits)+2%(legs)+10%set = 27% DA rate.

And ya, need more than 100 swings Q.Q.

Not to mention: Even with 10% DA the set is inferior to TP in compared to haste build, as haste has exponential benefits, while DA is linear.

No one's arguing about TPing in it, the idea would be to find out whether or not it's worth Penta Thrusting or Guillotining in.

[chapstick]

I'd definitely guillotine in it.

[tickotickoticko]

I had no other gear on and was on drk, i did not take zanshin into account, but i was fighting a too weak elemental, it could have effected the numbers.

[Neosutra]

Like i said in the post before, i did not do extensive testing, just because i would wear it regardless, but i did 5 sets of 100 swings 12% 13% 13% 14% 14% and 15% were the 5 numbers that i got after that.

Take it as you want, i might do more tests to get a much better idea of a actual number when i have some free time.

~ by the way i no other gear on at all other then ares's set and a Macuahuitl +1 and i was /sam.

Those % increases with your latent DA subtracted, no other DA gear, removal of zanshen >.>, removal of merits? To get 12-15% DA from set, you are saying you had a total DA % of 10%(latent war)+5%(merits)+2%(legs)+10%set = 27% DA rate.

And ya, need more than 100 swings Q.Q.

Not to mention: Even with 10% DA the set is inferior to TP in compared to haste build, as haste has exponential benefits, while DA is linear.

No one's arguing about TPing in it, the idea would be to find out whether or not it's worth Penta Thrusting or Guillotining in.

I think it was already determined it was the best setup for WS for everything except Wheeling thrust (due to defense ignore), even with a 5% DA rate. If it is indeed 10%, then it blows the other combinatiosn out of the water.

I still hesitate to believe 10% set bonus until some more tests come in.

[Max™]

I'd rather Nhead/Ebody/Nhands/Are's legs/Nfeet for RR, but it's pretty hot for SC on high eva.

Only thing full set wins far and away as on War is /Drg Jumps.

Sexy for Guilly though, especially if it's over 5%.

[Neosutra]

I'd rather Nhead/Ebody/Nhands/Are's legs/Nfeet for RR, but it's pretty hot for SC on high eva.

Only thing full set wins far and away as on War is /Drg Jumps.

Sexy for Guilly though, especially if it's over 5%.

I looked at a hybrid build, using Nhead and a few other obvious superior peices, but it basically comes down to not having to put accuracy.. -anywhere- else if wearing full ares. So your able to stack on str in alot of other places. Add in 5-10% DA rate and your pulling some good numbers. Raging Rush is about the only thing I would really question which would be better as you stated, because sacrificing alot of that dex may not be worth the other benefits.

For a war getting at least one minuet and zerk, eating meat, you are probably already at the attack cap, so a hybrid build would probably be superior to full ares, but about half as sexy.

[pawis]

another one for my group, big one this time. sad thing is ree had the 35 and 15 for a while, first time 25 dropped, he d/ced and didn't back in time... second time it dropped was a run he couldnt make the run, but we weren't planning on boss and was gonna tackle ramparts on first 3 floors and on a whim mid bees decided to go for boss missing 3 of our regulars and won and saw it drop, then finally dropped friday night.... woo hoo :D

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/912...ganbodyyc6.png

[Max™]

Grats Aihree!

I'd rather Nhead/Ebody/Nhands/Are's legs/Nfeet for RR, but it's pretty hot for SC on high eva.

Only thing full set wins far and away as on War is /Drg Jumps.

Sexy for Guilly though, especially if it's over 5%.

I looked at a hybrid build, using Nhead and a few other obvious superior peices, but it basically comes down to not having to put accuracy.. -anywhere- else if wearing full ares. So your able to stack on str in alot of other places. Add in 5-10% DA rate and your pulling some good numbers. Raging Rush is about the only thing I would really question which would be better as you stated, because sacrificing alot of that dex may not be worth the other benefits.

For a war getting at least one minuet and zerk, eating meat, you are probably already at the attack cap, so a hybrid build would probably be superior to full ares, but about half as sexy.

Are's body is crap for RR, I'd never use it over Ebody, and I'd probably rate it under Zahak's and Berkeon +1 honestly. Nhead vs Are's, meh, more Str vs what in neck slot?

The balance of Str for WS mod/fStr/Att and Dex for crits/Acc is too much to pass up for RR.

For Steel cyclone, the body would get use, but ideally it would be Nhead/Are's/Alky's/Hachiryu/Heca.

Only in Jump does the full set seem not worth breaking up.

Probably why I have no interest in salvage. T.T

Useless pretty gear isn't awesome enough.

gaxe/grip/_/core~let
nhead/gorget/brutal/triumph~vampire~hollow
ebody/nhands +1/flame/rajas
cerb +1/warwolf/are's/nfeet +1

Swap Are's body/alky's/hachi legs for steel, and I just don't think you'll find a way to outdo that setup without some completely awesome alternatives in the other slots.

[avelle]

another one for my group, big one this time. sad thing is ree had the 35 and 15 for a while, first time 25 dropped, he d/ced and didn't back in time... second time it dropped was a run he couldnt make the run, but we weren't planning on boss and was gonna tackle ramparts on first 3 floors and on a whim mid bees decided to go for boss missing 3 of our regulars and won and saw it drop, then finally dropped friday night.... woo hoo :D

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/912...ganbodyyc6.png

What a qt rdm. Congrats to her/him!

[Nitecon]

After 8 Months of Salvage and with the completion of our 59th piece, we see our first set!

Congratulations to Nauti! After getting his Robe back in November '07, he didn't get a single piece till the Slops in mid May '08, only to get the next 3 pieces in quick succession, picking up his Cuffs today!

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[Donjarfi]

blonde beard is blonde

[Rocl]

Blonde Bearded Humes are showing up everywhere as of late

[Jem]

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I know they're pretty common but it's the first time the 35 has ever dropped for any of my groups. We've been doing Salvage since December at a rate of 3-5 times a week and have only seen the Arra 5F Chariot ever drop 2 Enlil's Kolluks and 1 Freya's Ledelsens in that time. The second Kolluks came with the Freya's Ledelsens last night. We can't complain as we've had luck elsewhere but was speechless when they dropped for me last night.