Salvage Gears anyone?

[Judai]

WOOT! Alma get back in there and finish your set yo

[Minions]

Guess rest will be like...

5% Crit
5% DA
10% Fastcast
10% MDB


Seems most logical

Or it could just be 5% all around.

[Chupunpupun]

5% haste is the minimum to make it useful to wear as a set

that means losing 1 piece of dual wield from NIN AF shirt

was hoping it to be 8-10% so that it will be superb

but 5% still good tho, lose 1 dual wield, bit gain lotsa acc, store tp, subtle blow, and stats ^^

hell 5% will still make me wear it full time! (if i complete one day -_-)

Haidate+Turban+Fuma = 13%. So basically, you're losing 8% in attack speed (9% if you count HQ) and 3% in haste (4% if you count HQ). Even with speed belt you won't hit 20% haste with 5/5 usukane but I guess it's np since with so much ACC, you'll be eating meat.

[Neosutra]

5% haste is the minimum to make it useful to wear as a set

that means losing 1 piece of dual wield from NIN AF shirt

was hoping it to be 8-10% so that it will be superb

but 5% still good tho, lose 1 dual wield, bit gain lotsa acc, store tp, subtle blow, and stats ^^

hell 5% will still make me wear it full time! (if i complete one day -_-)

Haidate+Turban+Fuma = 13%. So basically, you're losing 8% in attack speed (9% if you count HQ) and 3% in haste (4% if you count HQ). Even with speed belt you won't hit 20% haste with 5/5 usukane but I guess it's np since with so much ACC, you'll be eating meat.

9% attack speed loss and 3 % haste? Where are you getting these numbers?


Turban: 5%
Dusk+1: 4%
Haidate: 5%
Fuma: 3%
Ninja Chainmail: 5% attack speed.

Thats 17% haste and 5% attack speed increase.

Usukane Soman: 3%
Usukane Legs: 3%
Usukane Feet: 2%
Set Bonus: 5%

Thats 13% haste, 4 less then a max haste build ninja. With a bonus of about 20 more attack 36 acc, 29 eva, 2 counter, sublte blow, and stat bonus.

So loss of 3-4 haste and 5% attack speed (or were you counting the 3-4% haste in with the attack speed increase from chainmail?).

I dont know, I would just say overall the set is far superior for meripo/soloing/minor NMs then a standard max haste build.

[Chupunpupun]

5% haste is the minimum to make it useful to wear as a set

that means losing 1 piece of dual wield from NIN AF shirt

was hoping it to be 8-10% so that it will be superb

but 5% still good tho, lose 1 dual wield, bit gain lotsa acc, store tp, subtle blow, and stats ^^

hell 5% will still make me wear it full time! (if i complete one day -_-)

Haidate+Turban+Fuma = 13%. So basically, you're losing 8% in attack speed (9% if you count HQ) and 3% in haste (4% if you count HQ). Even with speed belt you won't hit 20% haste with 5/5 usukane but I guess it's np since with so much ACC, you'll be eating meat.

9% attack speed loss and 3 % haste? Where are you getting these numbers?


Turban: 5%
Dusk+1: 4%
Haidate: 5%
Fuma: 3%
Ninja Chainmail: 5% attack speed.

Thats 17% haste and 5% attack speed increase.

Usukane Soman: 3%
Usukane Legs: 3%
Usukane Feet: 2%
Set Bonus: 5%

Thats 13% haste, 4 less then a max haste build ninja. With a bonus of about 20 more attack 36 acc, 29 eva, 2 counter, sublte blow, and stat bonus.

So loss of 3-4 haste and 5% attack speed (or were you counting the 3-4% haste in with the attack speed increase from chainmail?).

I dont know, I would just say overall the set is far superior for meripo/soloing/minor NMs then a standard max haste build.

yes.

[aurik]

Clearly this means only monks should get usukane, right?

[Wizerd]

I thought Ninja Chainmail proved to be like 1 or 2% attack speed increase, a while back, where did 5% ever come from? Either way, I still find 20 attack and 10 accuracy to be superior, because I dislike missing and I dislike hitting Colibri for so little.

[aurik]

Its 5% DW

[orson]

If Ares and Skadi aren't +10% then wearing the full sets are basically pointless. Personally I was really hoping that these would have some ridiculous bonuses. Granted I'm curious if sets have hidden effects.

[Almalexia]

Clearly this means only monks should get usukane, right?

Even Sage Sundi would admit that it is indeed the case.

I guess NIN, SAM and PUP get this stuff by accident. We should really be more careful when handling these precious artifacts.

[Eurlzoo]

Caps out MNK, pumps up SAM, something something PUP. Smiles and handshakes all around.

lool!

[Chupunpupun]

Clearly this means only monks should get usukane, right?

But MNK never get anything :-"

[Arthars]

im using:
usu head 3%
Byakko 5%
usu feet 2%
dusk NQ 3%
speed belt 6%
nin af1 body (1 dual wield enhance)

total 19% 1 dual wield enhance

if full usu set:
usu head 3%
usu feet 2%
speed belt 6%
usu leg 3%
set bonus 5%(if this is true)

total 19%

so i lose a dual wield enhance, but gain stats + acc, kinda worth it

thus my explaination of minimum 5% to be worthwhile

8-10% to be perfect but i guess SE arent that good XD

[Arthars]

Clearly this means only monks should get usukane, right?

i think the hand piece pretty says it all >_<

USUKANE IS MNK ONLY

it is also for creating flame thread in forums if your group has a lone lotter, and has PUP job only

[Suiram]

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4026/mardukjx0.jpg

:D :D :D :D :D :D

Edit: Fast Cast from body seems to be 4%; a quick test showed recast to be 2% (60sec > 58, 45sec > 44, 40sec > 39 just spamming a macro with 6 lines of /recast) and as I understand it the standard is that casting time reduction is twice the recast reduction.

[Rajian]

Congrats :D

[Bardlet]

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4026/mardukjx0.jpg

:D :D :D :D :D :D

Congrats!

/covet

[Almalexia]

Wow... it's beautiful.

[Griselda]

I think it looks even better from behind! :wink:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...lda/marduk.jpg

We got the 35 piece around 2am PST on wednesday morning so it feels a bit surreal that we got it upgraded so quickly. I guess there was a bit of NA pride involved - I really wanted to be among the first with it. :D It's my only piece of upgraded marduk so I'm anxious to see the whole set bonus - I haven't had much of a chance to test it out in my everyday activities but I feel pretty damn proud of what we accomplished. I'm so thankful to everyone involved - my static of course and everyone here on BG that finally figured out this puzzle of a drop.

[RKenshin]

Clearly this means only monks should get usukane, right?

i think the hand piece pretty says it all >_<

USUKANE IS MNK ONLY

it is also for creating flame thread in forums if your group has a lone lotter, and has PUP job only

At what point did it suddenly become useless for SAM? Full Usukane still gives more attack, accuracy, store TP, and STR than a conventional SAM build while still reaching the maximum amount of haste SAM can wear (might even be a little higher depending what you use).

And if anything the body/feet pieces say it all as far as what job gets the most use out of it! I never heard of a MNK being upset his DD gear didn't have more Subtle Blow, nor do you see many MNK/WARs around often to take advantage of any Counter gear, but Store TP is everytihng SAM is about.

And iirc, the numbers we figured out earlier in the thread showed that MNK and SAM both don't gain any mentionable amount of attack using this set of gear. The primary increases were Acc, Haste, STR, and Store TP for SAM. I don't have time to refigure it out for sure though at the moment (seeing as I'm in class!).