Examining Alzadaal

[divisortheory]

Honestly, I think they didn't add missions into the last update because they needed a way to get people off of the asses and doing assault. Rank may end up to be important by the time we are done with this storyline, and if it is we can thank all of the quest slugs out there who have to be prodded to use content for the delay.

I'm guessing the next sequence of missions won't be available unless you've completed every assault. And by every, I mean even Lebros Supplies.

[Tordall]

Anyone else find it ironic that two leaders of the mighiest kingdoms in Vanadiel are a PUP and a DRG (King Ranperre)?

Funny part is that the king's wife was schtupping a bard with the same character model as me.

The puppetmaster is the advisor not the empress. The 'standard' ruse so that the empress can go out and intermingle with her subjects is ussually someone really far down the social ladder that would be ignored by most people but expected to go into nearly any area. A typical role would be a tea vendor or some other wandering merchant.

[Taj]

There are 5 total Candesences. We know from Taj's "expedition" into Nyzul Isle that there is an Astral Plinith there, and that it is intact along with its Astral Candesence. I hope Taj reads this post so he could provide links to the pictures he posted ages ago when he explored the Ruins before its release.

Unfortunately, I don't have the pictures anymore. I do remember, however, that the Astral Plinth is indeed intact/lit up/makes that neat little whiny noise the one in Al Zahbi does when it's lit up.

if what Taj saw was unreleased sections of alzadaal, who is to say what part of the story they belong in...

maybe it was there for decoration or maybe SE designed it with an astral candy sitting in there for whatever programming convenience but when they impliment it they will remove the astral candesence from it... or maybe remove the entire plinith

theorizing is nice and fun, but i wouldnt hold any of it true until SE releases the rest of the story and gives us access to these places

Nope! The structure & texture files have not been updated or changed in any way since my last visit to Nyzul, so the Astral Plinth remains unchanged.

the are taj explored was the assault areas, 10 floors going up or down, all of them progressively darker with a candy at the end. Being that there is an assault area at the new staging point, that would be the section we go in. Interesting story, Im excited for it. We are probably entering alexanders 4 pillars and the assault point is his head. Would kinda make sense I think.

That was a separate thread when I was on Brick, and the zone is called "Hazhalm Testing Grounds." It's permanent double dark weather iirc and the area is fucking huge. It is not, however, and I know this without a shadow of a doubt, any sort of BC arena. The structure is all wrong. So either it's a dynamis-style one LS at a time thing, or it's a everyone's welcome to join in thing. Also the last floor is pitch black and has a purple ambience to it.

[Khamsin]

Anyone else find it ironic that two leaders of the mighiest kingdoms in Vanadiel are a PUP and a DRG (King Ranperre)?

Funny part is that the king's wife was schtupping a bard with the same character model as me.

The puppetmaster is the advisor not the empress. The 'standard' ruse so that the empress can go out and intermingle with her subjects is ussually someone really far down the social ladder that would be ignored by most people but expected to go into nearly any area. A typical role would be a tea vendor or some other wandering merchant.

So... the empress is really Fayeewah! I knew it!

[Sagacious Sundi]

You don't think Limbus and Promyvion are connected do you?

It's not really replying to your post, but I had always interpreted Apollyon as Promyvion-Al'Taieu, and since it has the Keeper of the Apocalypse, it is also the lower/central Promyvion (hence its original name), and Temenos is the Ou'Hpat Obelisk which has been absorbed or whatever by the Emptiness, hence the title you get (Temenos Liberator). The Kingslayer Orc NM and the proto-weapons show that the enemies there seem to have been taken or whatever by the Emptiness, ENMs might be similar to them, but they seem to be the Emptiness manifesting as monsters familiar to us (although the Moblin ENM60 guy might be normal, his Fantoccini might be the ENM).

...Sorry, I've been wanting to get this stuff out of me for a long time.

[Taj]

You don't think Limbus and Promyvion are connected do you?

It's not really replying to your post, but I had always interpreted Apollyon as Promyvion-Al'Taieu, and since it has the Keeper of the Apocalypse, it is also the lower/central Promyvion (hence its original name), and Temenos is the Ou'Hpat Obelisk which has been absorbed or whatever by the Emptiness, hence the title you get (Temenos Liberator). The Kingslayer Orc NM and the proto-weapons show that the enemies there seem to have been taken or whatever by the Emptiness, ENMs might be similar to them, but they seem to be the Emptiness manifesting as monsters familiar to us (although the Moblin ENM60 guy might be normal, his Fantoccini might be the ENM).

...Sorry, I've been wanting to get this stuff out of me for a long time.

Apollyon/Temenos weren't part of the story. I'm sure they originally had something cool planned for them, but all the people bitching about how much FFXI sucks made them sell out and change it into what it is now.

[Sui]

I forsee an awesome BC fight within the Imperial Ward against the Vizier and maybe Aphmau, commanding the power of Alexander. (Epic fight like Prishe/Selh'teus vs. Promathia style)

In my deepest, darkest dreams, I picture a massive final BC fight consisting entirely of you and your party literally scaling Alexander/Alzadaal/whatever as its massive bulk plods its way through the ocean towards Al Zahbi, threatening to crush the entire city. As you race to the top, assisted by Prince Luzaf and some Ephramadian corsairs, you must deal with Imperial soldiers sent to stop you before you reach its pinnacle, as well as Alexander's automated defense systems. When you finally reach the top, you fight Razfahd/the Empress/whoever in a desperate attempt to gain control of and stop the automaton before it crushes all of the Near East. And if you run out of time, you're treated to a cutscene of Whitegate being destroyed by a gigantic hell-robot.

When SE finally hires Septimus, can I be his assistant?

[Kuya]

I forsee an awesome BC fight within the Imperial Ward against the Vizier and maybe Aphmau, commanding the power of Alexander. (Epic fight like Prishe/Selh'teus vs. Promathia style)

In my deepest, darkest dreams, I picture a massive final BC fight consisting entirely of you and your party literally scaling Alexander/Alzadaal/whatever as its massive bulk plods its way through the ocean towards Al Zahbi, threatening to crush the entire city. As you race to the top, assisted by Prince Luzaf and some Ephramadian corsairs, you must deal with Imperial soldiers sent to stop you before you reach its pinnacle, as well as Alexander's automated defense systems. When you finally reach the top, you fight Razfahd/the Empress/whoever in a desperate attempt to gain control of and stop the automaton before it crushes all of the Near East. And if you run out of time, you're treated to a cutscene of Whitegate being destroyed by a gigantic hell-robot.

When SE finally hires Septimus, can I be his assistant?

Don't mean to be a dick, but thats a totaly original idea you got there.

[Taj]

I forsee an awesome BC fight within the Imperial Ward against the Vizier and maybe Aphmau, commanding the power of Alexander. (Epic fight like Prishe/Selh'teus vs. Promathia style)

In my deepest, darkest dreams, I picture a massive final BC fight consisting entirely of you and your party literally scaling Alexander/Alzadaal/whatever as its massive bulk plods its way through the ocean towards Al Zahbi, threatening to crush the entire city. As you race to the top, assisted by Prince Luzaf and some Ephramadian corsairs, you must deal with Imperial soldiers sent to stop you before you reach its pinnacle, as well as Alexander's automated defense systems. When you finally reach the top, you fight Razfahd/the Empress/whoever in a desperate attempt to gain control of and stop the automaton before it crushes all of the Near East. And if you run out of time, you're treated to a cutscene of Whitegate being destroyed by a gigantic hell-robot.

When SE finally hires Septimus, can I be his assistant?

Alexander would just POS to Whitegate.

[Therin]

I forsee an awesome BC fight within the Imperial Ward against the Vizier and maybe Aphmau, commanding the power of Alexander. (Epic fight like Prishe/Selh'teus vs. Promathia style)

In my deepest, darkest dreams, I picture a massive final BC fight consisting entirely of you and your party literally scaling Alexander/Alzadaal/whatever as its massive bulk plods its way through the ocean towards Al Zahbi, threatening to crush the entire city. As you race to the top, assisted by Prince Luzaf and some Ephramadian corsairs, you must deal with Imperial soldiers sent to stop you before you reach its pinnacle, as well as Alexander's automated defense systems. When you finally reach the top, you fight Razfahd/the Empress/whoever in a desperate attempt to gain control of and stop the automaton before it crushes all of the Near East. And if you run out of time, you're treated to a cutscene of Whitegate being destroyed by a gigantic hell-robot.

When SE finally hires Septimus, can I be his assistant?

Don't mean to be a dick, but thats a totaly original idea you got there.

Don't mean to be a dick, but you totally fail.

[Eaglestrike]

I forsee an awesome BC fight within the Imperial Ward against the Vizier and maybe Aphmau, commanding the power of Alexander. (Epic fight like Prishe/Selh'teus vs. Promathia style)

In my deepest, darkest dreams, I picture a massive final BC fight consisting entirely of you and your party literally scaling Alexander/Alzadaal/whatever as its massive bulk plods its way through the ocean towards Al Zahbi, threatening to crush the entire city. As you race to the top, assisted by Prince Luzaf and some Ephramadian corsairs, you must deal with Imperial soldiers sent to stop you before you reach its pinnacle, as well as Alexander's automated defense systems. When you finally reach the top, you fight Razfahd/the Empress/whoever in a desperate attempt to gain control of and stop the automaton before it crushes all of the Near East. And if you run out of time, you're treated to a cutscene of Whitegate being destroyed by a gigantic hell-robot.

When SE finally hires Septimus, can I be his assistant?

Only as long as Aphmau is on my team.

[Kuya]

I forsee an awesome BC fight within the Imperial Ward against the Vizier and maybe Aphmau, commanding the power of Alexander. (Epic fight like Prishe/Selh'teus vs. Promathia style)

In my deepest, darkest dreams, I picture a massive final BC fight consisting entirely of you and your party literally scaling Alexander/Alzadaal/whatever as its massive bulk plods its way through the ocean towards Al Zahbi, threatening to crush the entire city. As you race to the top, assisted by Prince Luzaf and some Ephramadian corsairs, you must deal with Imperial soldiers sent to stop you before you reach its pinnacle, as well as Alexander's automated defense systems. When you finally reach the top, you fight Razfahd/the Empress/whoever in a desperate attempt to gain control of and stop the automaton before it crushes all of the Near East. And if you run out of time, you're treated to a cutscene of Whitegate being destroyed by a gigantic hell-robot.

When SE finally hires Septimus, can I be his assistant?

Don't mean to be a dick, but thats a totaly original idea you got there.

Don't mean to be a dick, but you totally fail.

DON'T WORRY GOOD SIR, I TOTALY AGREE, THAT IDEA IS ORIGINAL.

cept for the fact of sounding like what you did at the end of FFXII

[Sagacious Sundi]

I forsee an awesome BC fight within the Imperial Ward against the Vizier and maybe Aphmau, commanding the power of Alexander. (Epic fight like Prishe/Selh'teus vs. Promathia style)

In my deepest, darkest dreams, I picture a massive final BC fight consisting entirely of you and your party literally scaling Alexander/Alzadaal/whatever as its massive bulk plods its way through the ocean towards Al Zahbi, threatening to crush the entire city. As you race to the top, assisted by Prince Luzaf and some Ephramadian corsairs, you must deal with Imperial soldiers sent to stop you before you reach its pinnacle, as well as Alexander's automated defense systems. When you finally reach the top, you fight Razfahd/the Empress/whoever in a desperate attempt to gain control of and stop the automaton before it crushes all of the Near East. And if you run out of time, you're treated to a cutscene of Whitegate being destroyed by a gigantic hell-robot.

When SE finally hires Septimus, can I be his assistant?

Don't mean to be a dick, but thats a totaly original idea you got there.

Don't mean to be a dick, but you totally fail.

DON'T WORRY GOOD SIR, I TOTALY AGREE, THAT IDEA IS ORIGINAL.

cept for the fact of sounding like what you did at the end of FFXII

I think he is refering to your typo.

[Kuya]

[quote=Sagacious Sundi]

I forsee an awesome BC fight within the Imperial Ward against the Vizier and maybe Aphmau, commanding the power of Alexander. (Epic fight like Prishe/Selh'teus vs. Promathia style)

In my deepest, darkest dreams, I picture a massive final BC fight consisting entirely of you and your party literally scaling Alexander/Alzadaal/whatever as its massive bulk plods its way through the ocean towards Al Zahbi, threatening to crush the entire city. As you race to the top, assisted by Prince Luzaf and some Ephramadian corsairs, you must deal with Imperial soldiers sent to stop you before you reach its pinnacle, as well as Alexander's automated defense systems. When you finally reach the top, you fight Razfahd/the Empress/whoever in a desperate attempt to gain control of and stop the automaton before it crushes all of the Near East. And if you run out of time, you're treated to a cutscene of Whitegate being destroyed by a gigantic hell-robot.

When SE finally hires Septimus, can I be his assistant?

Don't mean to be a dick, but thats a totaly original idea you got there.

Don't mean to be a dick, but you totally fail.

DON'T WORRY GOOD SIR, I TOTALY AGREE, THAT IDEA IS ORIGINAL.

cept for the fact of sounding like what you did at the end of FFXII

I think he is refering to your typo.[/quote:27c08]

Edit: nevermind lol

[Allundaria]

The puppetmaster is the advisor not the empress. The 'standard' ruse so that the empress can go out and intermingle with her subjects is ussually someone really far down the social ladder that would be ignored by most people but expected to go into nearly any area. A typical role would be a tea vendor or some other wandering merchant.

Trinity Blood reference?

[Melchiah]

Here's to hoping they release this stuff soon.

CoP came out October 2004 -> completed the storyline before October 2005, right?

It's nearing April already, 9 months have gone by since ToAU came out, hope they seriously start releasing stuff soon.

Honestly, I think they didn't add missions into the last update because they needed a way to get people off of the asses and doing assault. Rank may end up to be important by the time we are done with this storyline, and if it is we can thank all of the quest slugs out there who have to be prodded to use content for the delay.

I know people are probably sick of me bitching about this, but I think it's fair to say that people would be using this content if they didn't have to waste 12 hours a day camping Ulli to do their weekly(I can't really remember weekly sky runs tbh) god fights. I also think it fair to say that many people who don't have the Zilart gear they want are more interested in it at the moment than the current content available. I know I am. I finished up all the available ToAU missions, and I'm sitting at LC near a promotion, but I still spend(read: waste) more time at Ulli every week than I do in Assault, Besieged, Salvage, Limbus and Dynamis combined.

Otherwise, I completely agree with you Septimus.

edit: Right on with the Alexander bit. It's either Alexander or something very very gay meant to cocktease us about Alexander.

[Lordender]

I know people are probably sick of me bitching about this, but I think it's fair to say that people would be using this content if they didn't have to waste 12 hours a day camping Ulli to do their weekly(I can't really remember weekly sky runs tbh) god fights. I also think it fair to say that many people who don't have the Zilart gear they want are more interested in it at the moment than the current content available. I know I am. I finished up all the available ToAU missions, and I'm sitting at LC near a promotion, but I still spend(read: waste) more time at Ulli every week than I do in Assault, Besieged, Salvage, Limbus and Dynamis combined.

if they fixed it people would actually come back to the game i think >.>

[Almalexia]

I suppose that since all 4 of these Remnants are "Salvage" zones, and thinking upon the idea that the beastmen are running around in there too, and the fact that the Pliniths are "detachable", it would make sense that Al Zahbi took the Silver Seas Plinith, whereas the other three Pliniths were taken by each of the beastmen forces surrounding Al Zahbi.

I've never been inside the Hall of Binding after the AC was stolen, but don't the beastmen remove the whole plinth along with the candescence? I never bothered to compare the crest on the plinth in Mamook since I figured it was the same thing as in Al Zahbi...

Here's a screenshot of one, but it's kind of unclear which part of the crest is glowing the brightest. It loooooks like the top-right part, but that could just be the timing. Does anyone have a better shot of a captured AC?

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g6...s/img_0013.png

[Priran]

I've never been inside the Hall of Binding after the AC was stolen, but don't the beastmen remove the whole plinth along with the candescence? I never bothered to compare the crest on the plinth in Mamook since I figured it was the same thing as in Al Zahbi...

Nope, they leave the Plinth

[Sui]

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DON'T WORRY GOOD SIR, I TOTALY AGREE, THAT IDEA IS ORIGINAL.

holy crap, didn't even realize how similar they were >_> That must explain where that idea came from. I still maintain that it would be totally awesome, though