Examining Alzadaal

[Sagacious Sundi]

While we're on the topic of beastmen having the AC, does anyone know the official names for the battles (BC) to retrieve the AC? I hate when the wiki has unconfirmed information...

Also, I just realized that if Hazhalm is the endgame area of ToAU, then a theory I had that all endgame areas are similar yet different in their own way:
Hall of the Gods: The closest area to it would be the Altar Room in Oztroja.
Sealion's Den: Is a battlefield, yet has a map. Like the above, it is separated from the endgame area by a gate.
Hazhalm Testing Grounds: Has no map, yet is /searchable. I don't think any area with no map is /searchable. I'm not on right now but I'm fairly certain temporary maps aren't /searchable (Assault and maybe Salvage). Like the above 2, it is probably divided between its endgame area (which would be itself) by a gate.

Also x2, I think on the open sea route to Mhaura (I accidentally boarded it instead of the Nashmau ferry -.-; ), there is a Sarutabaruta-like island which could be where the chicken racing is going to be. Or maybe those islands south of Jeuno between Quon and Mindartia.

[seia]

Temenos and Apollyon are searchable.

[Sui]

I'm not on right now but I'm fairly certain temporary maps aren't /searchable (Assault and maybe Salvage).

Salvage remnants are searchable, just checked.

[Sagacious Sundi]

Hmmm, if Limbus is searchable, then it's safe to guess we're in for a Limbus-like thing.

EDIT: Wasn't there a post about the Mamook plinth corresponding to the Zhayolm Remnants a few minutes ago? Bleh, now I'm going to feel insane. Anyway, if so, then, more likely than not, the Trolls took the Bhaflau plinth and the Lamiae took the Arrapago plinth.

[wunjo_on_ramuh]

I suppose that since all 4 of these Remnants are "Salvage" zones, and thinking upon the idea that the beastmen are running around in there too, and the fact that the Pliniths are "detachable", it would make sense that Al Zahbi took the Silver Seas Plinith, whereas the other three Pliniths were taken by each of the beastmen forces surrounding Al Zahbi.

I've never been inside the Hall of Binding after the AC was stolen, but don't the beastmen remove the whole plinth along with the candescence? I never bothered to compare the crest on the plinth in Mamook since I figured it was the same thing as in Al Zahbi...

Here's a screenshot of one, but it's kind of unclear which part of the crest is glowing the brightest. It loooooks like the top-right part, but that could just be the timing. Does anyone have a better shot of a captured AC?

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g6...s/img_0013.png

"Subduer of the Mamool Ja"
Mamook = Upper-Right (North East?)

"Subduer of the Undead Swarm (09/22/2006)"
Arrapago Reef = Upper-Left (North West?)

[Almalexia]

Hmm, Mamools have the Zhayolm Remnants plinth. Undead have the Arrapago Remnants plinth. Is it any coincidence that Zhayolm Remnants are closest to Mamook and Arrapago Remnants are closest to Arrapago Reef?

Shit, maybe they DID yank it right out of the top floors.

[Metah]

I don't think any area with no map is /searchable.

You can search Dynamis but it has no map.

[Rocl]

Hmm, Mamools have the Zhayolm Remnants plinth. Undead have the Arrapago Remnants plinth. Is it any coincidence that Zhayolm Remnants are closest to Mamook and Arrapago Remnants are closest to Arrapago Reef?

Shit, maybe they DID yank it right out of the top floors.

Also Zhayolm has Mamool Ja and Mamook monsters in it and Arrapago Remnants has Lamia and their related monsters in it... maybe the Trolls have Bhaflau's?

Oh ho ho ho

That would mean, perhaps, the Empire of Ephmaraud had the fourth, and it was stolen by Aht Urghan when they took over?

[Metah]

Hmm, Mamools have the Zhayolm Remnants plinth. Undead have the Arrapago Remnants plinth. Is it any coincidence that Zhayolm Remnants are closest to Mamook and Arrapago Remnants are closest to Arrapago Reef?

Shit, maybe they DID yank it right out of the top floors.

Also Zhayolm has Mamool Ja and Mamook monsters in it and Arrapago Remnants has Lamia and their related monsters in it... maybe the Trolls have Bhaflau's?

Oh ho ho ho

That would mean, perhaps, the Empire of Ephmaraud had the fourth, and it was stolen by Aht Urghan when they took over?

That does make sense, it gives the Empire a reason to have attack Ephmaraud but... if there are 5 ACs, does that mean the Empire had one to start with still? Is it possible there are more ruins under the ground east of West Aht Urhgan? Do the Alzadaal Ruins span that far?

[Rocl]

Trying to incoporate Silver Seas >_>
Perhaps they've recovered one more recently?
Gah, it's imps and fomors in there.. right?

Well wait.
There are five orbs
Nyzul Isle is the middle and the Remnants surrond it.

Bhaflau/Zhayolm/Arrapago's plinths are missing, presumably taken by the Beastmen.

Nzyul's plinth is intact, right? So that would mean perhaps the Empire took Silver Seas, and that Luzaf chased Imperials there? idk

[Sagacious Sundi]

Hmm, Mamools have the Zhayolm Remnants plinth. Undead have the Arrapago Remnants plinth. Is it any coincidence that Zhayolm Remnants are closest to Mamook and Arrapago Remnants are closest to Arrapago Reef?

Shit, maybe they DID yank it right out of the top floors.

Also Zhayolm has Mamool Ja and Mamook monsters in it and Arrapago Remnants has Lamia and their related monsters in it... maybe the Trolls have Bhaflau's?

Oh ho ho ho

That would mean, perhaps, the Empire of Ephmaraud had the fourth, and it was stolen by Aht Urghan when they took over?

That does make sense, it gives the Empire a reason to have attack Ephmaraud but... if there are 5 ACs, does that mean the Empire had one to start with still? Is it possible there are more ruins under the ground east of West Aht Urhgan? Do the Alzadaal Ruins span that far?

The symbol with the 5 ACs and a tiny thingy at the top hints at a sixth thingy... The Gordeus/Gordius? Since a NPC mentions some light thingy that no one should be allowed to control that destroyed the Ephramad, I wouldn't be suprised if they had the Gordeus/Gordius and that would be the most crucial thingy for Alexander. The Empire could also have the other 3 ACs and be using them to help rebuild Alexander, while using the fourth as bait. Also, the regional symbol for the Ruins of Alzadaal has an orb thingy, so maybe a beastmen allegiance (or the Ashu Talif or the remains of the Alzadaal civilization wanting their stuffs back) could be added as a fourth besieged force? Of course, it's probably just there to let you know 100% you're on the Besieged map and not the Conquest map.

[darkshines]

Here's a slightly clearer screenshot of the Astral Plinth in Mamook. You can see that the top right part is definitely glowing.

http://tshot.org/darkshines/mamook_ac_1.jpg

Since nobody else has mentioned it, the BC is called Mamook Incursion.

[Sagacious Sundi]

Since nobody else has mentioned it, the BC is called Mamook Incursion.

Thank you! Now all I need is the name of the Arrapago one (Lamia Intrusion? >_>), assuming the wiki has the correct name for the Halvung one.

[Vobent]

That's not really a plinth...that's just sticking an AC in the ground..and calling it a plinth..

[Zalius]

The candy is the glowing orb, the plinth is the big metal thing

edit: the glowing orb in the curve thing towards the middle

[Toth]

Can it be that those pliths thrust in the ground at the beastman's strongholds are the missing ones from the Remnants?

[Metah]

Can it be that those pliths thrust in the ground at the beastman's strongholds are the missing ones from the Remnants?

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...9842450913.jpg

[Rocl]

Can it be that those pliths thrust in the ground at the beastman's strongholds are the missing ones from the Remnants?

Read the thread >_>

[Toth]

Whoops, missed that. My apologies.

[Gwynplaine]

Since nobody else has mentioned it, the BC is called Mamook Incursion.

Thank you! Now all I need is the name of the Arrapago one (Lamia Intrusion? >_>), assuming the wiki has the correct name for the Halvung one.

The Arrapago BC is named "Lamia Reprisal". source