Examining Alzadaal

[Sagacious Sundi]

Since nobody else has mentioned it, the BC is called Mamook Incursion.

Thank you! Now all I need is the name of the Arrapago one (Lamia Intrusion? >_>), assuming the wiki has the correct name for the Halvung one.

The Arrapago BC is named "Lamia Reprisal". source

Thanks!!

Also, great post on KI with the unreleased stuff.

[Priran]

Can it be that those pliths thrust in the ground at the beastman's strongholds are the missing ones from the Remnants?

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l5...9842450913.jpg

lol irl

[Viena]

So, what does this look like?

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6052/cuadrezi3.jpg

[Judai]

that picture has been talked about before. everyone i believe understands it looks like odin vs alexander

[Darunia]

Mightaswell make my 1st post on here as it interests me most.

Pic looks like epic battle of Odin (Dark Rider) Vs Alexander (Alzadaal)
Also notice the top of Alexander looks remarkably like the cluster of towers scattered throughout the silversea route, can't find a pic of them but i thought it looked alike so meh, could be wrong though.

[Sagacious Sundi]

Mightaswell make my 1st post on here as it interests me most.

Pic looks like epic battle of Odin (Dark Rider) Vs Alexander (Alzadaal)
Also notice the top of Alexander looks remarkably like the cluster of towers scattered throughout the silversea route, can't find a pic of them but i thought it looked alike so meh, could be wrong though.

Yeah, you can see the Bhaflau Remnants, Nyzul Isle, and I *think* Arrapago/Silver Sea Remnants on the Silver Sea route. You can also see the Zhayolm Remnants on Vozold Island or whatever.

[Turaeg]

I wonder who is on which side and what the burning city is, could it be the Ephmaraud city? Alexander being controlled by the Empire and Odin rising againts them?

[Darunia]

Well Alexander has always been a protector, never been a weapon, so i assume Alexander was Ephramads toy but now Ephramad was destroyed and Alexander shut down, Odin i don't know though because the Dark Rider isn't a particular fan of the empire either. But it would explain why the empire wants the ACs so bad, to control Alexander and be pretty much unstoppable.

[Almalexia]

When I first started putting the whole Alzadaal-Alexander thing together, I looked at the 4 remnants/tower clusters scattered across the map and thought "yeah, this is the very top of Alexander with Nyzul Isle at the center. The rest of him stretches to the bottom of the sea."

Now I'm not so sure. If the spacing of the remnants zones on the map indicate the towers of Alexander, then the whole machine is unbelievably massive. Bigger than any of the crags, bigger than Ru'Aun Gardens, bigger than Arrapago Reef (the region, not the zone). We're talking CG movie-worthy huge. :wink:

The picture with Odin and Alexander is either drawn to a very unflattering scale, or the whole Alzadaal Undersea Ruins are not entirely Alexander. We know now the 4 remnants and Nyzul are needed to run the machine as each place houses a large "battery socket" fit for containing an AC (read: the greatest attachment in PUP history). I don't believe it's too far-fetched to think that the four remnants could be pulled by some undersea track to Nyzul, connect to this central zone, and become the full Alexander. While large on his own right, this wouldn't make him so tall that he blots out the sun for half the Near East.

If not this, then CG movie-worthy huge. :wink:
CG movie-worthy huge. :wink:
CG movie-worthy huge. :wink:
CG movie-worthy huge. :wink:
CG movie-worthy huge. :wink:
CG movie-worthy huge. :wink:

[Sumy]

...We know now the 4 remnants and Nyzul are needed to run the machine as each place houses a large "battery socket" fit for containing an AC (read: the greatest attachment in PUP history).

...oh, the Gordius is a relic animator!

[Darunia]

Well the Gordius should have something to do with Alexander, as SE finds nice little ways of putting Mythology into their games, especially XI: http://www.alexander-the-great.co.uk/gordian_knot.htm

I found it interesting while searching for any ties to The Gordius. Thought i might throw it in as there is alot of speculation over the relationship between it and Alexander.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Well the Gordius should have something to do with Alexander, as SE finds nice little ways of putting Mythology into their games, especially XI: http://www.alexander-the-great.co.uk/gordian_knot.htm

I found it interesting while searching for any ties to The Gordius. Thought i might throw it in as there is alot of speculation over the relationship between it and Alexander.

If I play saria's song will you dance?

[Darunia]

If I play saria's song will you dance?

Never on 1st dates

[StaplerGuy]

Wait, the Gordius-Gordian Knot wasn't a known connection? I'd've said something before if I had known, it was the first thing I thought of >_>

Well, second if you count "So why don't we use this to, y'know, stop besieged and stuff?"

[Darunia]

If it was a known connection i havent seen it anywhere, if so my bad on bringing it back up.

[Priran]

Well, second if you count "So why don't we use this to, y'know, stop besieged and stuff?"

It's been established through the mission cutscenes so far that the empire has ulterior motives in leaving the AC relatively unguarded in the rundown outskirts of the city.

[Everlasting]

Hazhalm Testing Grounds seems like the type of area where they send large groups of mobs to you in waves, but instead of the waves being mobs spawning or running at you the PT gets to rest and move to the next group when ready. They have been using that tactic to make battles harder in the last few months/years it seems.

For a single mob once you got the strat down you got it down and it's cake. With a group of mobs it's the same but must rely on your support more (kite/sleep), bad things can happen but it's often not a problem. With groups *and* waves there is significiantly more skill, planning, failure and discussion involved. And good old luck.

Bosses and such I'm sure sure like Dyna/Limb, but in waves at your own pace. I think what I read about the new Mega Boss areas they have VT/IT adds to deal with while fighting him. Enter a big room, aggro pulls everything in the room and it's on, bunch of IT'ish with boss(es) mixed in. Clear em out, rest and do the next room. This would be very similar.



How about this: We're clearing beastman out of Alexander at Hazhalm. After so many mobs are killed (say every 5000) he comes to life and an event happens, a special Besieged. Odin senses Alexander is awake and is attacking along with some/all beastman. You would have plenty of notification time (not 30 minutes like Beseiged, more like 1 day) so there would be a large turnout, epic battle with a few special NPC's (Alexander's keepers or guards?) and no lv40's. 2000 is reasonable, that's how many tend to be on a server at any given time and with advanced notification for this rare event hopefuly *everyone* would show up.

Gonna get laggy with 2000 people in one area so it would have to be split somehow, Besieged is 700 so 1 area for each Beastman. Drop 300 or so items which allow people to to fight the final battle against Odin with Alexander after all 3 Beastman are completely cleared.

They have said they are going to make alternative drop methods for Abjurations. He's the one who will drop them for the lucky 300, if they can beat him.

[Sagacious Sundi]

The Gordeus has been Alexander's main star on the stellar map for the past, what, almost 5 years? It's spelt "Gordius" there, but it doesn't matter. I personally think Alexander (or what remains of him) is in the Imperial Ward, with the Empire using maybe biotechnological machinery to repair (or replicate) him. Also, doesn't the Walahra Temple teach that all souls return to the "void" or something, as opposed to returning to the nearest mothercrystal? Maybe if you're closer to the Gordeus, your soul gets sent there, which is used to power Alexander or an Alexander-like thing? Also, I could see maybe only the central towers of each remnant + Nyzul apart of Alexander. Perhaps the Alzadaal civilization wanted to control him? Or didn't want anyone else to, so they divided his body + maybe separated the ACs (watch the 3 ACs be on the 3 tablet islands >_>)?

Also, I'm fairly certain Alexander is with the Empire. A giant automaton-like being founding the Empire, something light-related wiping out Ephramad, the Dark Rider hating the Empire, they all just point to it.

Does anyone else think Alexander might want to awaken the other sleeping gods (Ifrit and the others) and return the world to paradise, and Odin knows that that = bad.

Also, here's some food for thought:
5 Races
5 Terrestrial Avatars
5 ACs
5 Mothercrystals
5 Serpent Generals
5 Verse thingies (and 5 actual important things above this)
5 Ministries in Windurst
5 Schools of Magic (White/Black/Red/Summoning/Blue)

Coincidence? I think not!!

[Jeryhn]

Also, here's some food for thought:
5 Races
5 Terrestrial Avatars
5 ACs
5 Mothercrystals
5 Serpent Generals
5 Verse thingies (and 5 actual important things above this)
5 Ministries in Windurst
5 Schools of Magic (White/Black/Red/Summoning/Blue)

Coincidence? I think not!!

You forgot Brown Magic.

[Sagacious Sundi]

Also, here's some food for thought:
5 Races
5 Terrestrial Avatars
5 ACs
5 Mothercrystals
5 Serpent Generals
5 Verse thingies (and 5 actual important things above this)
5 Ministries in Windurst
5 Schools of Magic (White/Black/Red/Summoning/Blue)

Coincidence? I think not!!

You forgot Brown Magic.

I think I'm in denial of Brown Magic 'cuz I'll never get those titles.