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  1. #121
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    How profitable is this game still, anyway? If they are working on another expansion, then they must still believe FFXI can generate income.

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    Profitability is not the only reason a game like FFXI would be allowed to keep going.

  3. #123
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    I'd like it if they gave you like a random 3 or 5 cells in the beginning to get you started. Everyone being naked/helpless for like 20 minutes kind of hurts the fun after the first or second time. Having someone who can use a weapon, someone who can cast a spell, and someone who can use abilities would really speed that part up.
    Or if the Pathos was different for different zones. e.g. Bhaflau you start off with stats unlocked, but nothing else, while another zone you might start with magic unlocked but nothing else.
    Actually that's how I thought it was going to be, as they worded it you can have "up to" however many pathos. I was pretty disappointed seeing that every zone has the same restrictions.

  4. #124
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    98% Sure Salvage is unfinished. They'll add more to it... it's already stale as shit so far.

  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by levish
    Profitability is not the only reason a game like FFXI would be allowed to keep going.
    Other than pride (which Square seems to be lacking) what other reason is there to keep the game going than profit? (Or the love of Mithras/Galkas?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho
    98% Sure Salvage is unfinished. They'll add more to it... it's already stale as shit so far.
    Your Salvage group has already obtained all the armor you want? If that's so, then I guess yes, it is getting stale and they should add more to it since your group already has had its fill of the 5 existing armor sets. Maybe another couple armor sets would freshen things up?

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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    Quote Originally Posted by Sho
    98% Sure Salvage is unfinished. They'll add more to it... it's already stale as shit so far.
    Your Salvage group has already obtained all the armor you want? If that's so, then I guess yes, it is getting stale and they should add more to it since your group already has had its fill of the 5 existing armor sets. Maybe another couple armor sets would freshen things up?
    I have 1/15 Items that I want. x_x I'm saying it's stale because you have to go through moderate long-suffering in zones that don't give up cell drops. Making it very not worthwhile to do over and over. It's just bullshit when you kill upwards of 7-8 mobs before seeing just one cell drop.

    They need to add or tweak existing mechanics in Salvage to spark interest again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sho
    They need to add or tweak existing mechanics in Salvage to spark interest again.
    So help them tweak it :

    http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15884

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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    Quote Originally Posted by Sho
    They need to add or tweak existing mechanics in Salvage to spark interest again.
    So help them tweak it :

    http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15884
    Already posted a suggestion. It seems we would have to break Salvage with hacks or something ala-Taj to get them to notice tho.

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    psssh no, all we need is to make the dev team actually play salvage instead of making us beta test it with our AP ;p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    psssh no, all we need is to make the dev team actually play salvage instead of making us beta test it with our AP ;p
    amen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    psssh no, all we need is to make the dev team actually play salvage instead of making us beta test it with our AP ;p
    Didnt we beta test AV enough for them with our xp?

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    Hmm Feb. 6th and still nothing. I wonder if there has been a delay....

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    I have yet to see someone with one valuable piece of gear coming from Salvage..

    I haven't had the chance to do it yet but the gear seemed pretty good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toth
    Hmm Feb. 6th and still nothing. I wonder if they has been a delay....
    Unless they plan on changing the pace and just posting an update randomly. It'll be really late if they start posting news now and thats kind of depressing lol.

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    German part of the game is more impotent then updating the current game for the current gamers, duh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by senoska
    German part of the game is more impotent then updating the current game for the current gamers, duh.
    They are probably going to get more moneyz by getting some german people that have no idea what english is to play, than to do an update that would eventually come anyway.

    Profit>* we're talking aboot SE here!

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    I run my own salvage runs and usually I have to end up pulling teeth to get people to go. I guess it doesn't help that the first few runs were with 18 people and being a cheerleader for 100 minutes put people off about it.
    Yeah, I think this is THE biggest detraction from Salvage. As someone who plays jobs that ALL have 0 H2H skill, Salvage is just .. plain... boring for at least 30 min. You sit and watch other punch stuff slowly dying ... being unable to do anything. Then you finally get to do something and it is usually only halfass.

    Our last Salvage, we had to kill like 7 bombs to get ONE weapon. All we got were HP and MP and half the bombs didn't even drop "chests." I mean really. You can only bring so many potions (because god knows you can't equip back items yet.... ). If they REALLY wanted to at least make non H2H jobs not feel 100% useless they should make items usable on other people.

    I have 0 need for potions because I'm not getting hit... I'm not in AOE range, I just stand back and watch. I'm usually COR and by the time I get any weapon, usually mages have magic unlocked. If I was able to use potions on OTHER people, I wouldn't feel so useless. Just my $0.02 (Canadian pennies today... I'm feeling thrifty).

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    feb 8th imo

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    I'm gonna say the 10th maybe.

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