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  1. #181
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuemue
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylphet
    Sure, I'll get started on the WHM one right away!
    You obviously have no idea how long I've been promising people a WHM lj update;

    Though! I was thinking of trying to get it out this weekend or the next... but screwing around with some latent effect macros I want to get right before I post anything.

  2. #182
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylphet
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Vincent
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonomaa
    hmm, I wonder if we made a guides section of the forums we could have some really well written guides on how to do stuff locked in a protected forum for BG forum elitist reference
    I've always thought these guides should be written here. Sometimes even the Wiki lacks some specific references on Job Guides (and some just plain suck), and Zam guides helped me out when I was starting the game, but nowadays I dont find much reliable information there if I'm starting to play another job, or I find plain retardation (PUP Tanks!). That, and none of these guides have detailed info on the job's role/gear for endgame, which could be provided/debated on BG Forums.
    To be done properly would take a LOT of work and frankly a delicate hand. There's a lot of job flexibility out there but.. most of the time people are too stupid to know how to properly implement it. Take the headache of a job:

    RDM

    You have support, solo, and tank and within each of these you have sub categories and people have WILDLY different opinions on how/if these should even be used. Then you have merits and their various utility, you see where I'm going.

    The task would be a massive undertaking but if you can get the right people to supervise each section and make sure the each one gets complete and accurate information (all the while being open minded about things) I think it could be a really great reference for anyone hoping to learn a little (or a lot) more about a particular job.

    It would also be nice to have a section with (legitimately) useful links such as: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Category:Limbus which is simply the best limbus guide out there. Most people probably know about it but some don't and it's always nice to have a cenrtalized place that will be able to guilde you to information you know will be accurate.

    Nutshell: massive undertaking and you need the right people to help but if it's done well it would be awesome and extremely helpful.

    Potential side effect: A decrease in some of the 'basic' questions that pop up here because people can just check out the guide for information.
    maybe we could do a teamup with the wiki and write job guides here, get people to agree on the completion level of them, and have them hosted on the wiki, then have them set in a sticky to be checked up every few months to make sure they are up to date.

    BG writes > wiki hosts > BG edits as needed

  3. #183
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonomaa
    maybe we could do a teamup with the wiki and write job guides here, get people to agree on the completion level of them, and have them hosted on the wiki, then have them set in a sticky to be checked up every few months to make sure they are up to date.

    BG writes > wiki hosts > BG edits as needed
    I love the Wiki, but it's slow as hell most of the time. If you did host the guides on the Wiki, you'd need to ask them to be protected pages, so they don't get Zam!'d (i.e.: Zam RDM/NIN finds the guide and writes two paragraphs on why meleeing in meripo is efficient)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taj
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonomaa
    maybe we could do a teamup with the wiki and write job guides here, get people to agree on the completion level of them, and have them hosted on the wiki, then have them set in a sticky to be checked up every few months to make sure they are up to date.

    BG writes > wiki hosts > BG edits as needed
    I love the Wiki, but it's slow as hell most of the time. If you did host the guides on the Wiki, you'd need to ask them to be protected pages, so they don't get Zam!'d (i.e.: Zam RDM/NIN finds the guide and writes two paragraphs on why meleeing in meripo is efficient)
    could probably get that arranged, wiki admins, you up for a nice deal like that? an elite level guide system for the wiki

  5. #185
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damen
    Quote Originally Posted by mikazuki
    i actually have a whm guide written for my brother which describes magic defense, maxing spell potencies (inc. equipping haste on teleports...), merit utility, equipment utility; it's a pretty long set of blog posts and it doesn't cover HNM-specifics D:
    Wait what?
    :D to be honest i haven't bothered checking if haste reduces cast times, (i know it does for recast). fast cast and conserve mp are certainly useful for being a tele-taxi^^;

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikazuki
    Quote Originally Posted by Damen
    Quote Originally Posted by mikazuki
    i actually have a whm guide written for my brother which describes magic defense, maxing spell potencies (inc. equipping haste on teleports...), merit utility, equipment utility; it's a pretty long set of blog posts and it doesn't cover HNM-specifics D:
    Wait what?
    :D to be honest i haven't bothered checking if haste reduces cast times, (i know it does for recast). fast cast and conserve mp are certainly useful for being a tele-taxi^^;
    *sigh*

  7. #187
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awoir
    At least lemme know if it will be out today or tomorrow ;_;
    It won't be today lol.. Today is just going to be edit-5-billion-screen-shots day. I doubt I'll have time to do much more than that until tomorrow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sylphet
    You obviously have no idea how long I've been promising people a WHM lj update;
    You're worse than me!

  8. #188
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    You should come to BG irc Ruke.

  9. #189
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    I dont know why people make irc channels, everyone just afk's the whole time >_>

  10. #190
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    we're not afking <_<

    we're complaining about shit!

    [ 01:01:26 ] [ +Linsivi ] I need to kill someone
    [ 01:01:33 ] [ +Linsivi ] bliiz 4 > blizz 3 > blizz 4 > blizz 3
    [ 01:01:43 ] [ +Linsivi ] HAI Y DO MY NUKZ DO 40 DMGZ?!!
    [ 01:02:08 ] [ +Linsivi ] oh zerg ls showed up in force now

  11. #191
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    [aers] where's my tail...

  12. #192
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    sounds like ruke needs to hire an LJ-post assistant

  13. #193
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    I do!

    And I don't really know much of anything about IRC lol... I know it's a chat program but I don't know where to go or what to do, I wouldn't mind joining some time though.

    But, 15 out of 18 folders are finished, so three more folders and I'm done with the screens. Shooting to finish that tonight after Dyna... Then I could probably make the post tomorrow, bitches.

  14. #194
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    http://www.mirc.com to download the client

  15. #195
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    Don't do it Ruke, it's a trap. They're trying to steal your soul.

  16. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonomaa
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylphet
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Vincent
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonomaa
    hmm, I wonder if we made a guides section of the forums we could have some really well written guides on how to do stuff locked in a protected forum for BG forum elitist reference
    I've always thought these guides should be written here. Sometimes even the Wiki lacks some specific references on Job Guides (and some just plain suck), and Zam guides helped me out when I was starting the game, but nowadays I dont find much reliable information there if I'm starting to play another job, or I find plain retardation (PUP Tanks!). That, and none of these guides have detailed info on the job's role/gear for endgame, which could be provided/debated on BG Forums.
    To be done properly would take a LOT of work and frankly a delicate hand. There's a lot of job flexibility out there but.. most of the time people are too stupid to know how to properly implement it. Take the headache of a job:

    RDM

    You have support, solo, and tank and within each of these you have sub categories and people have WILDLY different opinions on how/if these should even be used. Then you have merits and their various utility, you see where I'm going.

    The task would be a massive undertaking but if you can get the right people to supervise each section and make sure the each one gets complete and accurate information (all the while being open minded about things) I think it could be a really great reference for anyone hoping to learn a little (or a lot) more about a particular job.

    It would also be nice to have a section with (legitimately) useful links such as: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Category:Limbus which is simply the best limbus guide out there. Most people probably know about it but some don't and it's always nice to have a cenrtalized place that will be able to guilde you to information you know will be accurate.

    Nutshell: massive undertaking and you need the right people to help but if it's done well it would be awesome and extremely helpful.

    Potential side effect: A decrease in some of the 'basic' questions that pop up here because people can just check out the guide for information.
    maybe we could do a teamup with the wiki and write job guides here, get people to agree on the completion level of them, and have them hosted on the wiki, then have them set in a sticky to be checked up every few months to make sure they are up to date.

    BG writes > wiki hosts > BG edits as needed
    That would be very awsome Sonokitty If BG did this as a page on wiki. But yeah,like mentioned, make it protected >_>;;

  17. #197
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    I'll try to DL the IRC thing sometime later this week, won't really have time during the next few days.

    I'm almost done with the update, ish... Figure I'll finish around 2-4 AM or so. D:

  18. #198
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    Quote Originally Posted by RKenshin
    I'll try to DL the IRC thing sometime later this week, won't really have time during the next few days.

    I'm almost done with the update, ish... Figure I'll finish around 2-4 AM or so. D:
    that's ok you can just idle like the rest of us ;o

  19. #199
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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    GODDAMNIT RUKE, HURRY THE FUCK UP, GEEZ. D:<

    /angst >_>

  20. #200
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    Quote Originally Posted by RKenshin
    I'll try to DL the IRC thing sometime later this week, won't really have time during the next few days.

    I'm almost done with the update, ish... Figure I'll finish around 2-4 AM or so. D:
    Still not updated yet.

    F5 F5 F5

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