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  1. #1
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    Likely a terribly stupid idea (Salvage acct network)

    I've been thinking about Salvage since it came out, and how information is coming somewhat slowly since a lot of people don't really seem interested, and it's kinda hard to get manpower to do some of the "scarier" runs (Zhayolm and Arrapago)... so I had an idea. It's probably pretty fucking terrible, but whatever, hear me out or don't.

    I'd like to get together a cross-server Salvage network. Basically, this would consist of a bunch of no-longer-used accounts (preferably with nothing worth stealing in case we get some utter fucking morons, somehow) across multiple servers that could be used for salvage by people from other servers who want to find out as much as they can. There could be some sponsor groups or shells that can invite people to use these accounts to go along with them on Salvage runs when they need the manpower. Since the accounts aren't really used that often, XP loss shouldn't really be too much of a hassle. There's definitely a lot I have yet to hammer out about this, but it's something I figured I'd brainstormed on long enough, and would toss it out here for you guys to discuss/dismiss/whatever.

    There are decent benefits for both sides. The people using the mule accounts get a bunch of new information on zones that haven't really been run too often yet, without having to worry about risking their main's precious buffer. The shells that sponsor the mule accounts get more manpower in their runs, and get some help from people in getting their members more armor pieces, without having to worry about more people lotting on the gear. I realize this requires a hell of a lot of trust, which is the main reason I figure this project would fail... but I like to hope that the main contributors on this section are trustworthy, and wouldn't jack an account instead of pursuing more knowledge. Also, I know a lot of people would really like a chance to play with another group of people once in a while, so that could be a fun little thing as well.

    Anyways, that's my idea. Questions/comments are welcome.

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    Re: Likely a terribly stupid idea (Salvage acct network)

    Quote Originally Posted by Millael
    I've been thinking about Salvage since it came out, and how information is coming somewhat slowly since a lot of people don't really seem interested, and it's kinda hard to get manpower to do some of the "scarier" runs (Zhayolm and Arrapago)... so I had an idea. It's probably pretty fucking terrible, but whatever, hear me out or don't.

    I'd like to get together a cross-server Salvage network. Basically, this would consist of a bunch of no-longer-used accounts (preferably with nothing worth stealing in case we get some utter fucking morons, somehow) across multiple servers that could be used for salvage by people from other servers who want to find out as much as they can. There could be some sponsor groups or shells that can invite people to use these accounts to go along with them on Salvage runs when they need the manpower. Since the accounts aren't really used that often, XP loss shouldn't really be too much of a hassle. There's definitely a lot I have yet to hammer out about this, but it's something I figured I'd brainstormed on long enough, and would toss it out here for you guys to discuss/dismiss/whatever.

    There are decent benefits for both sides. The people using the mule accounts get a bunch of new information on zones that haven't really been run too often yet, without having to worry about risking their main's precious buffer. The shells that sponsor the mule accounts get more manpower in their runs, and get some help from people in getting their members more armor pieces, without having to worry about more people lotting on the gear. I realize this requires a hell of a lot of trust, which is the main reason I figure this project would fail... but I like to hope that the main contributors on this section are trustworthy, and wouldn't jack an account instead of pursuing more knowledge. Also, I know a lot of people would really like a chance to play with another group of people once in a while, so that could be a fun little thing as well.

    Anyways, that's my idea. Questions/comments are welcome.
    Only takes one person to take all of the accounts people offer, then sell them on IGE ;x Doomed to failure, however I wish it would work so we could confirm alot of things about salvage ;;

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    The way I figure it, in order to get an account, you'd have to have a couple of respectable references from this forum, or be well-respected enough to have something to lose on here. I'm trying to figure out the best way to secure accounts like this ><

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    Precious buffer, wtf? It's only 1200xp per r1, any halfwit xp party can get that back in under 10 minutes: just drop out in bhaflau after salvage and kill a few things before warping out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Precious buffer, wtf? It's only 1200xp per r1, any halfwit xp party can get that back in under 10 minutes: just drop out in bhaflau after salvage and kill a few things before warping out.
    It's not precious to me (I was actually using the word in a sarcastic way, but sarcasm over the internet blah blah blah) but that's sadly the most common excuse I've gotten when it comes to Salvage. "I don't wanna lose buffer ; ;". I figure getting rid of one possible excuse can get more people involved in this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Millael
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Precious buffer, wtf? It's only 1200xp per r1, any halfwit xp party can get that back in under 10 minutes: just drop out in bhaflau after salvage and kill a few things before warping out.
    It's not precious to me (I was actually using the word in a sarcastic way, but sarcasm over the internet blah blah blah) but that's sadly the most common excuse I've gotten when it comes to Salvage. "I don't wanna lose buffer ; ;". I figure getting rid of one possible excuse can get more people involved in this.
    Tell those faggots who run around with a 3k buffer to turn off merits...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Millael
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Precious buffer, wtf? It's only 1200xp per r1, any halfwit xp party can get that back in under 10 minutes: just drop out in bhaflau after salvage and kill a few things before warping out.
    It's not precious to me (I was actually using the word in a sarcastic way, but sarcasm over the internet blah blah blah) but that's sadly the most common excuse I've gotten when it comes to Salvage. "I don't wanna lose buffer ; ;". I figure getting rid of one possible excuse can get more people involved in this.
    It's a lie, what they really mean is "I don't want to go". Probably because they aren't into exploration, and would rather everyone else do the heavy lifting involved in discovery, and then just tag along later to get rewards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik

    It's a lie, what they really mean is "I don't want to go". Probably because they aren't into exploration, and would rather everyone else do the heavy lifting involved in discovery, and then just tag along later to get rewards.
    I know, I know >.> I enjoy deluding myself sometimes. But anyways, I figure this idea would really only interest those people who already enjoy going, as a small booster to when you can't really get the number of people you'd like to do a zone. This would likely last (at the very fucking longest) until we have established strats for every zone. At that point, the slackasses wouldn't be so hesitant to go do Salvage, once it didn't require any thought patterns. I'm just trying to figure out a way to jumpstart Zhay/Arra strategizing, since a lot of people who would otherwise want to dive into these zones don't have the manpower to get a bunch of monks for Arrapago. I know I have problems even getting 6 people together half the time.

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