30 Sec Baha v2 (didnt see this in the other thread)

[Lordender]

If you want Square to do something about AV, the best way to go about it is for everyone in the game to totally ignore sea in general and AV in particular. Square knows exactly how often mobs are popped, a large-scale, all server boycott of jLo and AV will demonstrate that we are not going to put up with content that does not work. Add in a large letter writing campaign and pestering them at every fan event about how AV is broken and they will be forced to recognize this fact and rectify it.

But of course no one will listen so everyone is going to pretend that we are fine with things the way they are...

I wrote SE so many times about banning rmt, fixing sky,sea(AV), salvage, kings, suggestions on how to make jobs more attractive. I think all of those things now rest on Bercus's shoulders because he's the only one to get their attention of the end game population sadly.

[NynJa]

as I said a couple pages back

Ok so you have no lives and eat piss hit bleed breathe live die final fantasy...
You're making your linkshell look like a bunch of no lives who will melt if rays from the sun come in contact with their skin.

I think the same can be said about a person with a relic '.'

person with a relic didnt spend superbowl sunday gloating about Tiamat > Aspidochelone > Dynamis-Buburimu.

I spent it at work


Fact of the matter is, every person from this linkshell whos posting here is coming off as an arrogant piece of shit who thinks they're better than everyone else.

Probably the most hypocritical statement you've ever made. Coming from you this, indeed, made me laugh.

I'm not the one who goes around trying to showboat myself, citing "*item*{Please check it.}" as my catch phrase and always AFKing in whitegate in clear view of everyone trying to catch all the attention.

[Cubana]

It's talk.

I thought that's what these forums are all about.

Yet you're not talking, zing!

I was talking about the plan at the beginning of this thread and all I got was "that's impossible give up" or someone trying to prove that it's impossible with other theories. You can't disprove a theory with an opposing theory. That's not how logic works.

But THAT, even, wasn't as bad as the countless times people just hopped in to defend another person who disagrees with us just because that other person is famous on these boards. That's not a good enough reason nor argument for anything that has been discussed about AV at the beginning of the thread.

If people want to bash me for any of this then fine. I just came on here to discuss some of the ideas we had for the next AV and all I got was the opinions of a very few people (who actually have extensive experience with AV) and then banter from a billion idiots who have never even fought the thing.

This thread wasn't posted by Apathy. We came to discuss AV with you guys. Don't assume we're idiots because we don't post on here regularly. We put together a plan which is extremely complicated and precise, but it seems like noone wants to hear the ideas of the ONLY LS who has zerged Vrtra the way we did.

If you think all we did to Vrtra was throw a bunch of DRKs at it you are sadly mistaken and quite ignorant might I add.

I wish I could post a poll in the middle of a thread to see how many of these people who have posted on this thread have actually spent hours and hours testing AV behavior.

Remember who you are looking down on in terms of accomplishing something great in FFXI. We've walked the walk many a time. Don't we deserve some time to talk some talk?

[Ryko]

Remember who you are looking down on in terms of accomplishing something great in FFXI. We've walked the walk many a time. Don't we deserve some time to talk some talk?

Here? Not really, because the people with the exact same notches on their belts are gonna call it out for what it is, short-sighted speculation. Take offense to people telling you to put up or shut up all you want, your inability to account for or even acknowledge shit that's plain as day to see means that the only thing that you're going to acknowledge is dealing with it on your own so it leaves the people responding little option but to say "fine then do it or get your face owned".

[Cubana]

Remember who you are looking down on in terms of accomplishing something great in FFXI. We've walked the walk many a time. Don't we deserve some time to talk some talk?

Here? Not really, because the people with the exact same notches on their belts are gonna call it out for what it is, short-sighted speculation. Take offense to people telling you to put up or shut up all you want, your inability to account for or even acknowledge shit that's plain as day to see means that the only thing that you're going to acknowledge is dealing with it on your own so it leaves the people responding little option but to say "fine then do it or get your face owned".

Really? You all zerged Vrtra with kraken drks? You all have over 24hours total experience with AV?

Well why didn't you tell me that in the first place!?
God I feel dumb ._.

[Lordwafik]

So now it's zerg and not strategy?

[Jeryhn]

Sacrificing a level 1 mule with constant Hymnus use hardly qualifies as "AV experience".

[Ryko]

Really? You all zerged Vrtra with kraken drks? You all have over 24hours total experience with AV?

Does it bug you that much that full day and subsequent terrain glitch (that got patched) resulted in jack shit? For all that posturing and fucking plain bullshit you attempted to make up as the reasoning for the kill, the people there basically blew your spot before the topic even died. Or does it bug you more that you're attempting to speak of the virtue of multiple kraken DRKs on AV to people who not only did it, but managed to get kills on it before you guys that didn't involve humping a wall and letting the thing die practically unclaimed with no drops whatsoever? Or does it bug you even more that when you finally ask people who are they to speak of such an obviously advanced and obscure tactic, you get told that you're not exactly pioneering a movement.

Which is it?

Dont answer that.

[Cubana]

So now it's zerg and not strategy?

You want to argue semantics and derail this topic more than you all have already? Ok! How about this. You define the word "zerg" for me and then we can discuss the semantics behind my post.

[Ryko]

Just fucking do it and stop barking. No words in this topic are going to make you think beyond your already limited scope, let the game teach you.

[terraflarex]

Ya'll need to get out more..this thread should have died 10 pages ago.

[Ryko]

Dude fuck that it's cold outside.

[terraflarex]

Fuckin -10F in NYC for the third day straight ...

[Narse]

Drove to work with the A/C on here in Texas..

[Ryko]

Fuckin -10F in NYC for the third day straight ...

Yeah having a drafty room in brooklyn right now isnt really saving me from much.

[Jeryhn]

Drove to work with the A/C on here in Texas..

Same in California. And it was raining this morning.

[terraflarex]

Drove to work with the A/C on here in Texas..

I hate you, Narse. Remind me to break another cursed item of yours, thx.

[Narse]

I would but you already broke all the D. Logs on AH...

[terraflarex]

I would but you already broke all the D. Logs on AH...

True statement, had to compensate for that HQ togi fool.

[Cubana]

Really? You all zerged Vrtra with kraken drks? You all have over 24hours total experience with AV?

Does it bug you that much that full day and subsequent terrain glitch (that got patched) resulted in jack shit? For all that posturing and fucking plain bullshit you attempted to make up as the reasoning for the kill, the people there basically blew your spot before the topic even died. Or does it bug you more that you're attempting to speak of the virtue of multiple kraken DRKs on AV to people who not only did it, but managed to get kills on it before you guys that didn't involve humping a wall and letting the thing die practically unclaimed with no drops whatsoever? Or does it bug you even more that when you finally ask people who are they to speak of such an obviously advanced and obscure tactic, you get told that you're not exactly pioneering a movement.

Which is it?

Dont answer that.

See this is the very problem I'm talking about. You do know Apathy's history with AV don't you? But that's why you say our experience with AV was just one day and a wall?

Let me put it this way. The reason you don't know how much we've tested AV is because we don't come on here posting pages of stuff for you to read about AV. If you didn't already know, we've killed AV without the wall and played with it numerous times we've popped it.