108 Dynamis-worth of Drops

[jibini]

Was posting these for my LS yesterday, and figured someone on here might be interested in seeing them.

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1.../Diabolic2.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...abolicCoP2.jpg

Covers January 4th '06 through Febuary 3rd '07, twice a week with a few runs missed for maintenance and crap.

It unfortunately doesn't show the way that certain drops seem to cycle. White mage body, for example, we had 3 of from January-April of '06, then none until the last month, when we've had two. Seems to happen far more than you'd expect with a completely random distribution too.

[Kaylia]

Your results are obviously wrong when you look at the bst and drg % that are not significantly higher than anything else


Seriously, it's pretty interesting. I'm surprised drop rate vary that much between certain AF. I supose it might have to do with sandy/windy having lower drop rate in certain case, but it's not true for every jobs.

Also, is there any explanation in beaucedine for mnk AF drop rate? Fluke happens, but it's still a big difference

[Judai]

9 BLM Hats 6 PLD Bodies and 5 THF Hands T.T;

dear lord our xarcs look nothing like that. We get a ton of crap and RDM. I'm curious as to how people run Xarc on a farm run. Where people farm and such? Our LS typically kills timers and NMs, wall timer and then farms back to the start. So people kill other shit? We have tried to farm over by the Animated Shield because someone said they got like 3 AF2 there once. The few times we have tried tho it was a small run or after DL. (thus not much time to try it.)

I hate the fact that in 2 years I have seen 2 BLM Hats(one of which dropped with seconds left and was lost to timeout), 3 PLD Bodies and 1 set of THF Armlets.. So annoying.. Sucks having some items rot and others people have never seen drop. We have gotten like 8+ RDM hats tho, iirc.

[Koyangi]

My Dyn LS went 14 BLM hat 4 RDM hat 1 PLD Body, 6 THF hands before we broke

[jibini]

Your results are obviously wrong when you look at the bst and drg % that are not significantly higher than anything else

Yeah, apparently monk and warrior are our hot jobs. Likely because we have almost none of them.

Seriously, it's pretty interesting. I'm surprised drop rate vary that much between certain AF. I supose it might have to do with sandy/windy having lower drop rate in certain case, but it's not true for every jobs.

Also, is there any explanation in beaucedine for mnk AF drop rate? Fluke happens, but it's still a big difference

See above. Monk AF loves us. Results are completely unadulterated. We've definitely had two runs on which 3 have dropped.

Diabolic: best dressed monk mannequins on the Garuda server.

5 THF Hands

Yeah, one of the thieves with them isn't even level 75 yet... Xarcabard's actually been pretty nice to us, aside from the 1 Mantle and 1 Hundred total from our 2 DLs.

I'm curious as to how people run Xarc on a farm run. Where people farm and such? Our LS typically kills timers and NMs, wall timer and then farms back to the start. So people kill other shit? We have tried to farm over by the Animated Shield because someone said they got like 3 AF2 there once. The few times we have tried tho it was a small run or after DL.

On all of our runs we get the first TE, head up the hill and kill off all the eyes at the second TE, and then camp on the top of the hill just NW of there.

Pull the four eyes (starting with the SE one so they don't all link) and kill off all the demons with them.

Head north past the telepoint and camp just NE of it. Pull the 3 eyes there, kill their demons and the TE that pops.

Kill off the NMs, kill TE then head NW to the wall of eyes.

I (or the other puller) sac the northern half while the black mages -ga pull the southern half. Kill all of them, and their TE.

On a farming run, we kill everything that surrounds the first TE, then after the wall of eyes head NE. Kill the stuff in the canyon heading east, then the three eyes SE of those.

We normally sac pull half the eyes south of them (the ones that move north-south to the west of the telepoint), then kill the other half.

After that, it depends on what we're doing. We've done a couple of runs at the animated great axe, since one of our members is close to needing the fragment. Attempting to pull the stuff directly south of the great axe sucks huge balls, btw.

The other way we normally go (that doesn't work very well if you sac pull the initial TE surrounding mobs westwards) is back to the second TE. Camp behind the platform and pull the stuff to the east of it.

There really aren't that many nice pulls that we've found beyond those.

[Quicklet]

This is the theory I've had regarding AF2 drops in Dynamis:

The way mob loot pools work, generally you have a max of 10 possible non-crystal slots a mob can have for treasure. Within each slot is the base % drop rate of whether or not that slot drops, along with the % chance of what item it will be if it drops. Whatever effect TH has helps whether or not a specific slot's item drops but has no effect on what it ends up being.

I've never heard of a single mob dropping more than one AF piece, so each most likely has 4 slots devoted to currency drops and 1 slot to a potential AF drop. So what is probably the case is that either specific mobs are coded to only drop specific pieces, or else it is possible that specific mobs are skewed toward dropping specific pieces with the intention that a "full clear" would produce somewhat more even drop rates.

There are a lot of possibilities, and it'd be interesting to see more data gathered with respect to what specific pops drop which AF and try to find some kind of pattern, but that might be too time-intensive without some kind of program that can do that.

Ultimately you can never go wrong with the combination of TH + killing as many mobs as possible. I don't doubt that someday people will be able to do full clears of Dynamis-Xarc.

[TB]

My Dynamis Linkshell statistics. Covering over 280 runs.

http://obsidianodin.com/statistics.php

[Quicklet]

I tip my hat to you, sir.

I find it interesting that WAR and MNK top the list of your distributions as well (though by a lesser margin than the OP's data).

[Kiro]

My Dynamis Linkshell statistics. Covering over 280 runs.

http://obsidianodin.com/statistics.php

Wow.

Edit: FUCKING SUBMIT IS NOT PREVIEW I HAET THIS SHIET ARRRRRRRGH CLICKED LIKE EIGHT GODDAMN TIMESSS

[TB]

I find it interesting that WAR and MNK top the list of your distributions as well (though by a lesser margin than the OP's data).

We gone over a long "WTFWAR" streak some months ago. For example: Some dude joined the ls and went 6/6 (yes even belt) in 2 months and maybe 30 total runs overall....

Our new beloved job is BRD in CoP zones. We have gotten 6 friggin BRD Capes so far and recently BRD-1 legs from Tav.... -.-

[Blackice]

I find it interesting that WAR and MNK top the list of your distributions as well (though by a lesser margin than the OP's data).

We gone over a long "WTFWAR" streak some months ago. For example: Some dude joined the ls and went 6/6 (yes even belt) in 2 months and maybe 30 total runs overall....

Our new beloved job is BRD in CoP zones. We have gotten 6 friggin BRD Capes so far and recently BRD-1 legs from Tav.... -.-

Pics?

[Lylie]

What I wonder about Dynamis is, why is the drop rate so stupidly made?

I mean, SE made a poll a few months ago, to know what was the percentage of the FFXI population playing each job, so why not make the Dynamis drop rate match (more or less, and adjust if needed) the poll?

If you see the Job Distribution Statistics (as of 5/06) you can see 16% of WHM and 2% of SAM playing, though the drop are about the same... Dunno, doesn't makes sense for me...

[TB]

I find it interesting that WAR and MNK top the list of your distributions as well (though by a lesser margin than the OP's data).

We gone over a long "WTFWAR" streak some months ago. For example: Some dude joined the ls and went 6/6 (yes even belt) in 2 months and maybe 30 total runs overall....

Our new beloved job is BRD in CoP zones. We have gotten 6 friggin BRD Capes so far and recently BRD-1 legs from Tav.... -.-

Pics?

I wasn't there for the run. I don't know if anyone took a screenshot.
http://www.obsidianodin.com/raid.php?id=296

[TB]

The database our Linkshell is using was completely coded by one of our LS leaders called Gawayne. He made the complete content management system including administrative functions, making it alot easier for us leaders. Overall it's a pretty damn nice webpage.

[divisortheory]

I've never heard of a single mob dropping more than one AF piece

I've personally witnessed 2 AFs dropping from the same mob. Different pieces also. It happened in a Bastok, and out of probably 100+ Dynamis runs it's only ever happened once.

[tyraravenlocke]

I myself have erm 4/5? drk afv2.. with level 12 dark.. and 2/5 sam I think (definately level 1)

This is simply from random crap that drops into the pool that noone wants.

As for monk.. we can't explain it.. if a zone drops monk af, its a goddamn lock it will drop at LEAST 1, if not more.. and dont even get me started on relic weapons...

I've often thought about inviting outside monks into the shell on a mercenary basis, cause we have definately wasted more monk afv2 than anything else.

[Garret]

When did that ever happen Kalia?

I know it wasn't a DX run.

I don't keep incredibly detailed statistics, but I monitor our drops somewhat decently. If anyone would like to take a look at ours drops are done out by job, I do list the drops for each zone as well but only recently started keeping track of that so the AF2 breakdown is much more complete.

http://www.ultimals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2310

[Septimus]

What I wonder about Dynamis is, why is the drop rate so stupidly made?

I mean, SE made a poll a few months ago, to know what was the percentage of the FFXI population playing each job, so why not make the Dynamis drop rate match (more or less, and adjust if needed) the poll?

If you see the Job Distribution Statistics (as of 5/06) you can see 16% of WHM and 2% of SAM playing, though the drop are about the same... Dunno, doesn't makes sense for me...

The more I think about it, the more I distrust those statistics. When they are tabulating the jobs that people use, how do they determine when someone has multiple level 75s? Unless it is an "at the moment" snapshot, but then there are plenty of odd combinations for farming or just running around and can solo be skewed by people leveling subs at the time. (WHM is a common sub for BRD, RDM, BLM, and SMN and many MNKs used to level it as well.)

I think a more accurate representation would be looking at the highest job for non-75s and the job distribution for level 75 players. (Since you will have a lot of overlap now that it is very common for people to have multiple 75 jobs.)

[Skjie]

wtf@ 6 RDM hats in 22 runs :/ My DynaLS is has been doing minimum of 2 Xarcas /month since August 2005 and we only have 3 RDM hats and 2? BLM hats :/

[Minions]

wtf@ 6 RDM hats in 22 runs :/ My DynaLS is has been doing minimum of 2 Xarcas /month since August 2005 and we only have 3 RDM hats and 2? BLM hats :/

GET MORE JP'S, if that doesnt work, break the linkpearl and make a new one