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  1. #41
    Renegade Philosopher
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyraravenlocke
    another little oddity, we had TWO 6 currency dropping mobs in the glacier once for diabolic.

    Didn't think that shit was possible, but it happened.
    Were they hydras? I think I remember hydras being able to drop a lot of currency. If it's from a non-hydra mob then I don't remember that happening before but I never kept hard data on it.

  2. #42
    Cerberus
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    I've seen regular mobs drop a maximum of four, Hydras seven, and eyes three (regular, not including hundreds).

  3. #43
    Tom Wilson will never be good.
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    rofl, i will never have the guts to not bring a thf. nice to hear the horror stories tho so i never think about it. just trying to say, even with like 6 THFs and one of them TH3, we get shitty drops at times.
    </3 Dynamis drop rates.

  4. #44
    Habitatt Hasher
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    Indeed

    There were Hydras.. who seem to have a very very strange loot pool.

  5. #45
    Melee Summoner
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    Not as organized as some of the others but my LS has overall stats posted each month (the +/- numbers is monthly change).

    These are as of the end of January.


    [General Stats]
    Total Runs: 82
    Wins: 51
    Losses: 9 [Bastok x3, Windurst x3, Jeuno x2, Xarcabard x1]
    Farming: 22 [Xarcabard x13, Beaucedine x7, Jeuno x1, Sandoria x1]
    Win%: 85.0%
    Total Relic: 455
    Total 100c: 44
    Total 1c's: 11912


    [Detailed Coin Stats]
    100 Byne Bill: 16
    L. Jadeshell: 15
    M. Silverpiece: 13

    Byne Bills: 4313
    O. Bronzepiece: 4116
    T. Whiteshell: 3483


    [Detailed Run Stats]
    Jeuno: 16
    Beaucedine: 15
    Xarcabard: 14
    Windurst: 13
    Bastok: 12
    Sandoria: 12


    [Detailed Relic Stats]
    WAR: 45 [9.9%] -0.1
    BRD: 40 [8.8%] -0.4
    MNK: 40 [8.8%] +/-0
    RDM: 35 [7.7%] +0.2
    DRG: 33 [7.3%] +/-0
    NIN: 32 [7.0%] -0.3
    PLD: 31 [6.8%] +/-0
    BLM: 29 [6.4%] -0.2
    WHM: 28 [6.2%] +0.1
    SAM: 25 [5.5%] -0.3
    BST: 24 [5.3%] -0.1
    SMN: 23 [5.1%] -0.3
    DRK: 23 [5.1%] +0.7
    THF: 22 [4.8%] +0.2
    RNG: 21 [4.6%] +0.2

    Big Gainer This Month: DARK KNIGHT [+0.7% with 5 Relic in January]
    Big Loser This Month: BARD [-0.4% with 2 Relic in January]


    [Averages]
    Relic Per Run: 5.55 (-0.08)
    Relic Per City: 7.23 (+0.19)
    Relic Per Beaucedine: 2.67 (-0.71)
    Relic Per Xarcabard: 2.28 (-0.14)

    100c Per Run: 0.54 (-0.01)
    1 Coins Per Run: 145.3 (-1.6)

    Attendance Per Run: 42.7 (-0.6)
    Tuesday Attendance: 44.0 (-0.8)
    Saturday Attendance: 41.4 (-0.4)
    Jeuno Attendance: 43.1 (-0.9)
    Sandoria Attendance: 46.0 (-0.2)
    Bastok Attendance: 42.5 (-1.0)
    Windurst Attendance: 43.5 (-0.5)
    Beaucedine Attendance: 42.5 (-0.4)
    Xarcabard Attendance: 39.0 (-0.3)


    [Linkshell Records]
    Most Relic: 19, Bastok 11/14/06
    Most 1c's: 304, Bastok 11/14/06
    Most 100c: 3, Xarcabard 7/18/06
    Most total coins: 420, Jeuno 6/27/06
    Most members in attendance: 57, Windurst 7/28/06 and Bastok 8/12/06
    Least members in attendance: 28, Xarcabard 7/18/06
    Full Relic Equipment Sets: 19
    Relic Weapons Completed: Wagnus (Aegis)
    Most 100c Wins: Decidence (6) [Runner Up: Caaeia (4)]

  6. #46
    >The Implying
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    My LS is on about a 0/20-ish run on any Shadow Items from Dynamis Lord since a ring drop in like July. We almost never bring any THFs because all our THFs are also Adaberk/Ridill WARs.

    Something to think about.

  7. #47
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by decidence
    Attendance Per Run: 42.7 (-0.6)

    [Linkshell Records]
    Most Relic: 19, Bastok 11/14/06
    Most 1c's: 304, Bastok 11/14/06
    Most 100c: 3, Xarcabard 7/18/06
    Most total coins: 420, Jeuno 6/27/06
    Really? :-/ because we got 423 coins in Windurst last night and we had 24 people to start, which dwindled to 18 for the last hour. Coin split ended up being 24 for 59k, splitting among 17 people.

  8. #48
    Cerberus
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    Since we're sharing, here is about 260 runs worth of data ...

    Dynamis-Bastok
    Abyss Sollerets - 21
    Melee Gaiters - 21
    Duelist's Gloves - 20
    Saotome Kote - 20
    Sorcerer's Tonban - 20
    Assassin's Vest - 18
    Bard's Cuffs - 18
    Wyrm Brais - 18
    Summoner's Bracers - 17
    Monster Jackcoat - 16
    Valor Coronet - 15

    Total: 204

    Dynamis-Jeuno
    Cleric's Pantaloons - 23
    Warrior's Mufflers - 22
    Duelist's Tights - 21
    Assassin's Poulaines - 19
    Sorcerer's Sabots - 18
    Scout's Beret - 17
    Saotome Sune-Ate - 16
    Koga Kyahan - 15
    Abyss Flanchard - 13
    Melee Gloves - 13
    Wyrm Finger Gauntlets - 13
    Bard's Slippers - 6

    Total: 196

    Dynamis-San d'Oria
    Warrior's Calligae - 30
    Summoner's Pigaches - 23
    Cleric's Cap - 18
    Koga Hakama - 18
    Wyrm Greaves - 18
    Duelist's Boots - 17
    Melee Hose - 17
    Valor Gauntlets - 17
    Monster Trousers - 14
    Bard's Roundlet - 13
    Scout's Braccae - 11

    Total: 196

    Dynamis-Windurst
    Warrior's Mask - 24
    Cleric's Duckbills - 21
    Sorcerer's Gloves - 18
    Assassin's Bonnet - 15
    Summoner's Spats - 15
    Koga Hatsuburi - 14
    Saotome Haidate - 13
    Abyss Gauntlets - 12
    Valor Leggings - 12
    Monster Helm - 7
    Scout's Bracers - 6

    Total: 157

    Dynamis-Beaucedine
    Monster Gaiters - 15
    Warrior's Cuisses - 15
    Duelist's Tabard - 14
    Saotome Domaru - 14
    Melee Cyclas - 13
    Cleric's Briault - 12
    Sorcerer's Coat - 12
    Valor Breeches - 11
    Abyss Cuirass - 9
    Scout's Socks - 9
    Summoner's Doublet - 9
    Wyrm Mail - 9
    Bard's Justaucorps - 8
    Assassin's Culotte - 7
    Koga Chainmail - 7

    Total: 164

    Dynamis-Xarcabard
    Monster Gloves - 16
    Sorcerer's Petasos - 16
    Scout's Jerkin - 14
    Assassin's Armlets - 12
    Cleric's Mitts - 12
    Duelist's Chapeau - 12
    Saotome Kabuto - 12
    Summoner's Horn - 11
    Wyrm Armet - 11
    Melee Crown - 10
    Bard's Cannions - 9
    Valor Surcoat - 9
    Koga Tekko - 8
    Abyss Burgeonet - 7
    Warrior's Lorica - 6

    Shadow Mantle - 8
    Shadow Ring - 8

    Total: 165

    Dynamis-Buburimu
    Abyss Cape - 7
    Koga Sarashi - 4
    Scout's Belt - 4
    Warrior's Stone - 4
    Cleric's Cap - 3
    Duelist's Belt - 3
    Wyrm Belt - 3
    Abyss Gauntlets - 1
    Bard's Cape - 1
    Melee Cape - 1
    Monster Jackcoat - 1
    Sorcerer's Gloves - 1
    Valor Cape - 1
    Wyrm Greaves - 1

    Total: 35

    Dynamis-Qufim
    Assassin's Cape - 2
    Warrior's Mask - 2
    Wyrm Belt - 2
    Duelist's Belt - 1
    Duelist's Tights - 1
    Melee Gloves - 1
    Monster Belt - 1
    Saotome Kote - 1
    Scout's Belt - 1

    Total: 12

    Dynamis-Valkurm
    Sorcerer's Belt - 5
    Koga Sarashi - 4
    Cleric's Belt - 3
    Monster Belt - 3
    Warrior's Calligae - 3
    Duelist's Boots - 2
    Saotome Koshi-Ate - 2
    Valor Cape - 2
    Abyss Sollerets - 1
    Assassin's Cape - 1
    Bard's Cape - 1
    Scout's Bracers - 1
    Sorcerer's Sabots - 1
    Summoner's Cape - 1
    Warrior's Stone - 1

    Total: 31

    Dynamis-Tavnazia
    Hydra Beret - 3
    Bard's Justaucorps - 2
    Assassin's Culotte - 1
    Cleric's Briault - 1
    Hydra Harness - 1
    Hydra Haubert - 1
    Hydra Jupon - 1
    Hydra Tights - 1
    Melee Cyclas - 1
    Monster Gaiters - 1
    Scout's Socks - 1
    Summoner's Horn - 1

    Total: 15


    Average AF Per Zone
    Zone - AF/run
    Dynamis-Bastok 9.71429
    Dynamis-Jeuno 9.28571
    Dynamis-San d'Oria 8.90909
    Dynamis-Windurst 7.85000
    Dynamis-Buburimu 4.13333
    Dynamis-Beaucedine 3.37500
    Dynamis-Xarcabard 2.84483
    Dynamis-Valkurm 2.41176
    Dynamis-Qufim 1.58333
    Dynamis-Tavnazia 0.90323

    Runs with x AF Drops
    # of AF Dropped - # of Runs
    0 31
    1 33
    2 32
    3 34
    4 32
    5 18
    6 18
    7 14
    8 6
    9 12
    10 6
    11 10
    12 3
    13 4
    14 2
    15 4
    16 2
    17 3
    21 1

    We also have data on drop rate by moon phase if anyone is interested; however, with essentially 12 different moon phases, 265 runs and 1229 pieces of AF is still a bit too small of a sample size to draw any real conclusions.

  9. #49
    Bagel
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    eh, Aaewen has an anti-copy/paste on the site so i can't really copy it:
    http://www.everyonesgrudge.info/hydraco ... istic.html

  10. #50
    Melee Summoner
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    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by decidence
    Attendance Per Run: 42.7 (-0.6)

    [Linkshell Records]
    Most Relic: 19, Bastok 11/14/06
    Most 1c's: 304, Bastok 11/14/06
    Most 100c: 3, Xarcabard 7/18/06
    Most total coins: 420, Jeuno 6/27/06
    Really? :-/ because we got 423 coins in Windurst last night and we had 24 people to start, which dwindled to 18 for the last hour. Coin split ended up being 24 for 59k, splitting among 17 people.
    Geez... ya we hardly ever see numbers that high. I dunno why, we almost cleared Bastok the two times we broke 300 (1-7 stones left at MH but didn't get a 100c either time). And the Jeuno one was because 2 100c's dropped that run so we only got 220 singles. Bastok is the only zone we come close to clearing.

    However we dont require people to come as certain jobs and are very support mage heavy, the amount of WAR, MNK and SAM's we have per run is usually between 1-3 per job. And the best NIN's are demoted to stone support which might be hurting ourselves more the helping in the long run for farming purposes.

  11. #51
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    Our last glacier run we got 4x100s and 160 singles ... it was pretty crazy.

  12. #52
    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by decidence
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Really? :-/ because we got 423 coins in Windurst last night and we had 24 people to start, which dwindled to 18 for the last hour. Coin split ended up being 24 for 59k, splitting among 17 people.
    Geez... ya we hardly ever see numbers that high. I dunno why, we almost cleared Bastok the two times we broke 300 (1-7 stones left at MH but didn't get a 100c either time). And the Jeuno one was because 2 100c's dropped that run so we only got 220 singles. Bastok is the only zone we come close to clearing.

    However we dont require people to come as certain jobs and are very support mage heavy, the amount of WAR, MNK and SAM's we have per run is usually between 1-3 per job. And the best NIN's are demoted to stone support which might be hurting ourselves more the helping in the long run for farming purposes.
    Job distribution might be why, we usually have 2-3 really solid DD thfs (split among melee parties of course) when we do burn-style. For melee we often end up with 2-4 nin, 2 mnk, 1-2 war, 0-2 sam, 2-3 thf, sprinkle lightly with bards and stir gently.

    From my experience, a totally full clear of a city is 250-350 singles depending on luck / treasure hunter. Highest number of singles I've personally seen is about 350 in Bastok (total annhilation of the entire zone).

  13. #53
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    highest number i have seen is singles is 500+ in jeuno, beat boss quick and had like 2 hours or so to farm

  14. #54
    Galkasaur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurik
    From my experience, a totally full clear of a city is 250-350 singles depending on luck / treasure hunter. Highest number of singles I've personally seen is about 350 in Bastok (total annhilation of the entire zone).
    Sounds about right to me, our personal best is something like 344 in Bastok with a complete annihilation.

    We managed about 320 in Windurst with a complete annihilation as well.

    I'd actually bump it up to saying a full clear of any city should be 300+ singles.

  15. #55
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    Sadly sometimes even a full clear can leave you stiffed. We full cleared Bastok earlier this month with 25 and got shafted on drops despite having a TH3 and two TH4. We got an ass kicking 216 singles and 6 AF to show for that effort.

  16. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garret
    Quote Originally Posted by Aurik
    From my experience, a totally full clear of a city is 250-350 singles depending on luck / treasure hunter. Highest number of singles I've personally seen is about 350 in Bastok (total annhilation of the entire zone).
    Sounds about right to me, our personal best is something like 344 in Bastok with a complete annihilation.

    We managed about 320 in Windurst with a complete annihilation as well.

    I'd actually bump it up to saying a full clear of any city should be 300+ singles.
    320 is really nothing

  17. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeph
    320 is really nothing
    I said 320 singles, that isn't counting 100's. I don't see anyone talking about 500 singles as the norm or anything.

  18. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia
    Your results are obviously wrong when you look at the bst and drg % that are not significantly higher than anything else

    ...stuff...
    I was thinking the EXACT same thing right away.. lol

    thats a nice THF Hand Droprate;;

  19. #59
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    Time

    Wow, wonderfull data. One thing I'm curious about is number of runs from 0/5 to 5/5 on relic for a job.

    I want to do some calculations comparing hours to obtain 5/5 to other actions in the game.

    I was going to use 6 months (52 runs) unless I can find some more precise statistics.

    Hopefully through all this, a strong argument can be made and SE will adjust things in our favor.

    Thanks.

  20. #60
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    My LS DynamisDominator on Hades has very weird results.

    We got 11 Duelist's Chapeau in 11 straight runs of Xarcabard and one run dropped 2 Duelist's Chapeau.

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