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  1. #1
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    Mad Bomber data collection

    I didn't want to clutter the Bhaflau thread with this, but it needs to be done.

    One proposed theory is that mad bomber pops on a side of Bhaflau depending on game day. Should be easy to prove one way or another.

    [Edited on request]
    Please post the day you entered Bhaflau, the moon phase and %, the direction you took, the time (and day, if different than entry) when you opened the first door, and whether Mad Bomber popped or not.

    example: firesday 98% full moon, west door opened 11:30, no mad bomber

    Reported dates:
    • Watersday Full Moon (100%)
      Windsday Full Moon (98%) not west
      Firesday Full Moon (95%) not west
      Earthsday Waning Gibbous (93%)
      Watersday Waning Gibbous (90%) west G-8
      Windsday Waning Gibbous (88%)
      Iceday Waning Gibbous (86%) west G-8
      Lightningday Waning Gibbous (83%)
      Lightsday Waning Gibbous (81%)
      Darksday Waning Gibbous (79%)
      Firesday Waning Gibbous (76%)
      Earthsday Waning Gibbous (74%)
      Watersday Waning Gibbous (71%)
      Windsday Waning Gibbous (69%)
      Iceday Waning Gibbous (67%)
      Lightningday Waning Gibbous (64%)
      Lightsday Waning Gibbous (62%)
      Darksday Last Quarter (60%)
      Firesday Last Quarter (57%)
      Earthsday Last Quarter (55%)
      Watersday Last Quarter (52%)
      Windsday Last Quarter (50%)
      Iceday Last Quarter (48%)
      Lightningday Last Quarter (45%)
      Lightsday Last Quarter (43%)
      Darksday Waning Crescent (40%)
      Firesday Waning Crescent (38%) west G-8
      Earthsday Waning Crescent (36%) west G-8
      Watersday Waning Crescent (33%)
      Windsday Waning Crescent (31%)
      Iceday Waning Crescent (29%)
      Lightningday Waning Crescent (26%)
      Lightsday Waning Crescent (24%)
      Darksday Waning Crescent (21%)
      Firesday Waning Crescent (19%) not west
      Earthsday Waning Crescent (17%)
      Watersday Waning Crescent (14%) west SW
      Windsday Waning Crescent (12%)
      Iceday New Moon (10%)
      Lightningday New Moon (7%)
      Lightsday New Moon (5%)
      Darksday New Moon (2%)
      Firesday New Moon (0%)
      Earthsday New Moon (2%)
      Watersday New Moon (5%) west yes
      Windsday Waxing Crescent (7%)
      Iceday Waxing Crescent (10%)
      Lightningday Waxing Crescent (12%)
      Lightsday Waxing Crescent (14%)
      Darksday Waxing Crescent (17%)
      Firesday Waxing Crescent (19%)
      Earthsday Waxing Crescent (21%) west yes, west G-8
      Watersday Waxing Crescent (24%)
      Windsday Waxing Crescent (26%) west G-8
      Iceday Waxing Crescent (29%)
      Lightningday Waxing Crescent (31%)
      Lightsday Waxing Crescent (33%)
      Darksday Waxing Crescent (36%)
      Firesday Waxing Crescent (38%)
      Earthsday First Quarter (40%)
      Watersday First Quarter (43%)
      Windsday First Quarter (45%) not west
      Iceday First Quarter (48%) not west
      Lightningday First Quarter (50%)
      Lightsday First Quarter (52%)
      Darksday First Quarter (55%)
      Firesday Waxing Gibbous (57%)
      Earthsday Waxing Gibbous (60%)
      Watersday Waxing Gibbous (62%) west SW
      Windsday Waxing Gibbous (64%)
      Iceday Waxing Gibbous (67%)
      Lightningday Waxing Gibbous (69%)
      Lightsday Waxing Gibbous (71%)
      Darksday Waxing Gibbous (74%)
      Firesday Waxing Gibbous (76%)
      Earthsday Waxing Gibbous (79%) west G-8
      Watersday Waxing Gibbous (81%) not west
      Windsday Waxing Gibbous (83%)
      Iceday Waxing Gibbous (86%)
      Lightningday Waxing Gibbous (88%)
      Lightsday Full Moon (90%) west G-8
      Darksday Full Moon (93%)
      Firesday Full Moon (95%)
      Earthsday Full Moon (98%)
      Lightsday Full Moon (100%)
      Darksday Full Moon (98%)
      Iceday Full Moon (95%)
      Lightningday Waning Gibbous (93%)
      Lightsday Waning Gibbous (90%)
      Darksday Waning Gibbous (88%)
      Firesday Waning Gibbous (86%) not west
      Earthsday Waning Gibbous (83%)
      Watersday Waning Gibbous (81%)
      Windsday Waning Gibbous (79%)
      Iceday Waning Gibbous (76%)
      Lightningday Waning Gibbous (74%)
      Lightsday Waning Gibbous (71%)
      Darksday Waning Gibbous (69%)
      Firesday Waning Gibbous (67%)
      Earthsday Waning Gibbous (64%)
      Watersday Waning Gibbous (62%)
      Windsday Last Quarter (60%)
      Iceday Last Quarter (57%)
      Lightningday Last Quarter (55%)
      Lightsday Last Quarter (52%)
      Darksday Last Quarter (50%)
      Firesday Last Quarter (48%)
      Earthsday Last Quarter (45%) west G-8
      Watersday Last Quarter (43%)
      Windsday Waning Crescent (40%)
      Iceday Waning Crescent (38%)
      Lightningday Waning Crescent (36%)
      Lightsday Waning Crescent (33%)
      Darksday Waning Crescent (31%)
      Firesday Waning Crescent (29%) west yes
      Earthsday Waning Crescent (26%)
      Watersday Waning Crescent (24%)
      Windsday Waning Crescent (21%)
      Iceday Waning Crescent (19%)
      Lightningday Waning Crescent (17%)
      Lightsday Waning Crescent (14%)
      Darksday Waning Crescent (12%)
      Firesday New Moon (10%) west SW x3
      Earthsday New Moon (7%)
      Watersday New Moon (5%) not west
      Windsday New Moon (2%)
      Iceday New Moon (0%)
      Lightningday New Moon (2%) west G-8, not west, CONFLICT
      Lightsday New Moon (5%)
      Darksday Waxing Crescent (7%)
      Firesday Waxing Crescent (10%)
      Earthsday Waxing Crescent (12%) not west, pop SW
      Watersday Waxing Crescent (14%)
      Windsday Waxing Crescent (17%)
      Iceday Waxing Crescent (19%) not west
      Lightningday Waxing Crescent (21%)
      Lightsday Waxing Crescent (24%)
      Darksday Waxing Crescent (26%)
      Firesday Waxing Crescent (29%)
      Earthsday Waxing Crescent (31%)
      Watersday Waxing Crescent (33%)
      Windsday Waxing Crescent (36%)
      Iceday Waxing Crescent (38%)
      Lightningday First Quarter (40%)
      Lightsday First Quarter (43%) west NE
      Darksday First Quarter (45%)
      Firesday First Quarter (48%)
      Earthsday First Quarter (50%)
      Watersday First Quarter (52%)
      Windsday First Quarter (55%)
      Iceday Waxing Gibbous (57%)
      Lightningday Waxing Gibbous (60%)
      Lightsday Waxing Gibbous (62%)
      Darksday Waxing Gibbous (64%)
      Firesday Waxing Gibbous (67%) not west
      Earthsday Waxing Gibbous (69%)
      Watersday Waxing Gibbous (71%)
      Windsday Waxing Gibbous (74%) not west
      Iceday Waxing Gibbous (76%)
      Lightningday Waxing Gibbous (79%)
      Lightsday Waxing Gibbous (81%)
      Darksday Waxing Gibbous (83%) west SW
      Firesday Waxing Gibbous (86%)
      Earthsday Waxing Gibbous (88%) not west
      Watersday Full Moon (90%)
      Windsday Full Moon (93%) west SW
      Iceday Full Moon (95%)
      Lightningday Full Moon (98%)

  2. #2
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    Interesting... Although you probably want to add in a little more data than that on the off chance that it is something else like moon phase. (Not saying it is, just being thorough.)

  3. #3
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    RNG says that the mobs don't show up on widescan until you open the East/West door. The Day/Time you open the door might also have something to do with it.

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    Out of about 6 runs going East: 5/6

    Out of 3 runs going West: 1/3

    havent taken down moon phase / day / time though =/

  5. #5
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    Entered early on iceday waning moon 86%. Took the west path.
    Madbomber pop in the NW room (G-8).

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    taken note on some salvage

    Lights day entry: NM at SW
    Darks day entry: NM at NW

  7. #7
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    Not really basing this on anything, just throwing something out so people have something to test, so there's no point in criticizing it:

    Maybe whether it spawns on the west or east path is based on whether the day is a classical element (Fire/Earth/Water/Wind) or Ice/Lightning/Light/Darkness. Possibility:
    West: Non-classicals (ILLD)
    East: Classical eles (FEWW)

    And then maybe whether it spawns north or south is based on whether the current day is of a light element (Fire/Wind/Lightning/Light) or a dark element (Earth/Water/Ice/Darkness). Example:
    South: Light (FWLL)
    North: Darkness (EWID)

    So, it would look something like this:
    Firesday: SE
    Earthsday: NE
    Watersday: NE
    Windsday: SE
    Iceday: NW
    Lightningsday: SW
    Lightsday: SW
    Darksday: NW

    Just throwing it out so people have something to test (and cross out as a possibility if it's wrong, which it probably is).

  8. #8
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    Entered sometime between 0:00 and 1:00 on iceday. I forget the moon but it's whatever comes a day before 21% waxing crescent. West path (wamoura/armor) no Mad Bomber.

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    Sea Torques
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    earthsday 12% waxing cresent

    west side madbomber up in the southwest room

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    We now have 2 reports for iceday west path, one with and one without mad bomber. Day alone is not the trigger.

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    fireday,. waxing gibbeus 67% west side, no pop

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    12% Earthsday - no pop on West
    19% Iceday - no pop on West

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    Ridill
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    Windsday west side no pop

    Moon was... uh, Waxing Gibbous 70-something. Right now its Lightningsday 79%, so..

    Windsday 7_% <-- whatever this is
    Iceday 7_%
    Lightningsday 79%

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    Iceday, 76% Waxing Gibbous. Popped on west.

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    So...

    86% Iceday, it pops west side
    76% Iceday, it pops west side
    19% Iceday, no pop west side (Suiram's and Tymora's are the same run)

    75% Windsday, no pop west side

    98% Firesday, no pop west side
    67% Firesday, no pop west side

    12% Earthsday, it pops on west side
    12% Earthsday, no pop west side

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    going more indepth now

    95% lightning day, 14 people Pop NW

    and 8 people popped on darks day NW before too

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    should include waxing/crescent (sp?). For all we now, above 50% waxing it pops west, and over 50% crescent it pops east.

    Could be something like:
    over 50% waxing, pops west
    over 50% crescent, it pops east
    under 50% waxing, it pops east
    under 50% creascent, it pops west.

    Iunno, just a guess.

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    im gonna have to pull back my data i submitted regarding 12% waxing cresent earthsday

    looking back at my notes and talking with someone... there is a chance we entered just before earthsday started and i noted entry late (the point at which i clicked to enter salvage)

    so im not sure anymore

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    Ridill
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    Quote Originally Posted by safer
    im gonna have to pull back my data i submitted regarding 12% waxing cresent earthsday

    looking back at my notes and talking with someone... there is a chance we entered just before earthsday started and i noted entry late (the point at which i clicked to enter salvage)

    so im not sure anymore
    Then it'd be:

    98% Firesday, no pop west side
    67% Firesday, no pop west side
    10% Firesday, it pops on west side

    12% Earthsday, no pop west side

    __% Watersday, ______________

    75% Windsday, no pop west side

    86% Iceday, it pops west side
    76% Iceday, it pops west side
    19% Iceday, no pop west side

    95% Lightningsday, it pops west side

    __% Lightsday, ______________

    __% Darksday, ______________

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    should include waxing/crescent (sp?). For all we now, above 50% waxing it pops west, and over 50% crescent it pops east.
    Crescent is always between New and Quarter.

    New (10-0-5%) > Waxing Crescent (6-39%) > First Quarter (40-56%) > Waxing Gibbous (57-89%) > Full (90-100-94%) > Waning Gibbous (93-61%) > Last Quarter (60-44%) > Waning Crescent (43-11%) > New (10-0-5%)

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