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[BRP]

You guys(well, just Sonomaa) should really look into Spoiler boxes, that way the big wall of texts can be hidden.

PS. And Elmer, that was fucking awesome lol.

[safer]

not that id participate in chocobo racing since i hated my chocobo and dont have the patience to properly raise another one ... i think BRP's ideas are probably good

anyways, all i want from this update is my pretty cor AF2 .. i dont care about what stats it'll have since im happy with my gear atm

[Priran]

SE should nerf the idiots that play PUP.

Fucking christ I go to the KI PUP forums to find info on Reactive Shield and I get into an argument on the merits of gearing your MNK for VIT.

[Tajin]

not that id participate in chocobo racing since i hated my chocobo and dont have the patience to properly raise another one ... i think BRP's ideas are probably good

anyways, all i want from this update is my pretty cor AF2 .. i dont care about what stats it'll have since im happy with my gear atm

Flames aside, at any point did SE mention about giving the new jobs AF2?

[Rocl]

SE should nerf the idiots that play PUP.

Fucking christ I go to the KI PUP forums to find info on Reactive Shield and I get into an argument on the merits of gearing your MNK for VIT.

To be fair, while I like KI Job Forums, that sounds like it's a forum problem and not a job problem.

[Sady]

Flames aside, at any point did SE mention about giving the new jobs AF2?

Not to my knowledge, although if I had to guess I'd say they will if/when they add ToAU dynamis. My money is also on more AF belts/capes (opposite to those from CoP dynamis). Beyond that only the neck slot has yet to recieve any job specific items which I suppose is another option.

Either that or they will just dive straight into tier 3 artifact armor for all jobs which is very unlikely, at least until the next expansions.

[Khamsin]

I also wonder for which item slot the ToAU one-time-decision accessory rewards for completing the missions will be. RoZ had earrings, CoP had rings, maybe ToAU will have ammo/ranged?

[Jeryhn]

I also wonder for which item slot the ToAU one-time-decision accessory rewards for completing the missions will be. RoZ had earrings, CoP had rings, maybe ToAU will have ammo/ranged?

I forsee a lot of people burning those one-time item restore tickets.

I'm betting on neck slot final reward for completing ToAU.

[Priran]

maybe ToAU will have ammo/ranged?

that way, rangers, pups, and corsairs get boned completely

[Khamsin]

I also wonder for which item slot the ToAU one-time-decision accessory rewards for completing the missions will be. RoZ had earrings, CoP had rings, maybe ToAU will have ammo/ranged?

I forsee a lot of people burning those one-time item restore tickets.

I'm betting on neck slot final reward for completing ToAU.

Well, chakrams or unthrowable ammo like some items are.

Reason I say ranged/ammo instead of neck, back, or waist is because they seem to have always chosen slots that didn't have anything remarkable previously. Prior to RoZ and CoP, there wasn't really any must-have ring/earring, other than maybe sniper+1s, so people just kinda filled those slots with minor +stat or +hp/mp.

Back, neck, and waist slots each have fairly good options available, whereas ranged/ammo isn't all that remarkable. There's some decent items, but nothing that couldn't be improved on. It would fall in line with their habit of picking minor slots.

[Allundaria]

I also wonder for which item slot the ToAU one-time-decision accessory rewards for completing the missions will be. RoZ had earrings, CoP had rings, maybe ToAU will have ammo/ranged?

I forsee a lot of people burning those one-time item restore tickets.

I'm betting on neck slot final reward for completing ToAU.

If they follow the same job category trend as CoP, a tank and mage neckpiece could be pretty good. For melees though, it would have to be outstanding to trump the great options already available (chram, sea torques, gorgets, lolchiv chain).

[Rocl]

maybe ToAU will have ammo/ranged?

that way, rangers, pups, and corsairs get boned completely

or give each job a ranged slot
rangers a bow or gun
puppetmaster another animator
and corsairs a hexagun

EVERBODY WINS!

[Cjskater]

Better be the greatest neck item ever made. I'll be hard pressed to replace my torques/gorgets with anything. I would like a choice of a number of slots, not just a bunch of necklaces.

[Isiolia]

Personally I'm assuming it'll be the head slot. With the whole Glory Crown thing, it could easily end with Naja going to her back shelf and saying "now which one of these was it again?" when she finally returns it to you.

[Priran]

Back, neck, and waist slots each have fairly good options available, whereas ranged/ammo isn't all that remarkable. There's some decent items, but nothing that couldn't be improved on. It would fall in line with their habit of picking minor slots.

Back, neck, and waist slots' best items are also rather hard to obtain. Cerb Mantle +1/Errant Cape are tier 0 synths from a HNM drop; Black Belt is a 1-job-only quest, and Speed Belt is camped to Timbuktu. Neck has what, P.Charm/Sea torques as the current best item for the slot for melee, and what for mages? Ranged has the Bomb Core/Fire Bomblet/Hedgehog Bomb/Phantom Tathlum/Tiphia Sting that gives nearly every job several choices, in addition to those jobs that use the Ranged/Ammo slot as an essential weapon. Plus, I'd hate to be the guy that throws his ToAU reward.

Otherwise it would be the neck slot, but considering the Sea Torques, the ToAU item will probably be a ring.

[Khamsin]

I also wonder for which item slot the ToAU one-time-decision accessory rewards for completing the missions will be. RoZ had earrings, CoP had rings, maybe ToAU will have ammo/ranged?

I forsee a lot of people burning those one-time item restore tickets.

I'm betting on neck slot final reward for completing ToAU.

If they follow the same job category trend as CoP, a tank and mage neckpiece could be pretty good. For melees though, it would have to be outstanding to trump the great options already available (chram, sea torques, gorgets, lolchiv chain).

That's the reason I don't think it'll be neck, back, or waist. Previously, they've done a good job of not trying to compete with already existing good items for particular slots. Making a neck piece that competes with p.charm, sea torques, etc. would seem to go against their trend.

[Jeryhn]

I also wonder for which item slot the ToAU one-time-decision accessory rewards for completing the missions will be. RoZ had earrings, CoP had rings, maybe ToAU will have ammo/ranged?

I forsee a lot of people burning those one-time item restore tickets.

I'm betting on neck slot final reward for completing ToAU.

If they follow the same job category trend as CoP, a tank and mage neckpiece could be pretty good. For melees though, it would have to be outstanding to trump the great options already available (chram, sea torques, gorgets, lolchiv chain).

Melees are already pretty boned on expansion rewards. I'm sure most melee would agree that they'd wear double Woodsman/Sniper/Toredor Rings over their Rajas, relegating it to a WS piece.

Pretty much with the exception of Suppa, there's a comparable accessory that you can buy of the AH that'll perform just as well for a melee.

It doesn't necessarily need to a three-class item choice (tank, melee, mage). Example: A good ToAU reward choice would be:

Valhalla Necklace (named after Odin): Lv75 Neck, All Jobs
Raises all native weapon skills by 10, Adds Regen effect.

Judgment Necklace (named after Alexander): Lv75 Neck, All Jobs
Raises all native magic skills by 10, Adds Refresh effect.

"Native skill" refers to skills that come naturally to the main job wearing the necklace. For instance, a SMN/WHM wearing Judgement would get +10 summoning skill only, but a RDM would get +10 heal, enfeeble, elemental, enhancing, divine and dark. Of course, both jobs would benefit from the same item fairly equally given the jobs' roles.

If you really must separate tanks/melee rewards, you could always move Regen to a necklace that adds 10 skill to each native defensive skill (shield, evasion, guard, parry), and make the above necklace into one that gives TP Regen, but that'd be a little broken.

[Rocl]

Back, neck, and waist slots each have fairly good options available, whereas ranged/ammo isn't all that remarkable. There's some decent items, but nothing that couldn't be improved on. It would fall in line with their habit of picking minor slots.

Back, neck, and waist slots' best items are also rather hard to obtain. Cerb Mantle +1/Errant Cape are tier 0 synths from a HNM drop; Black Belt is a 1-job-only quest, and Speed Belt is camped to Timbuktu. Neck has what, P.Charm/Sea torques as the current best item for the slot for melee, and what for mages? Ranged has the Bomb Core/Fire Bomblet/Hedgehog Bomb/Phantom Tathlum/Tiphia Sting that gives nearly every job several choices, in addition to those jobs that use the Ranged/Ammo slot as an essential weapon. Plus, I'd hate to be the guy that throws his ToAU reward.

Otherwise it would be the neck slot, but considering the Sea Torques, the ToAU item will probably be a ring.

Mages would probably be their native skill torques? Enfeebling/Elemental/Summoning/etc? Uggalepih Pendant? idk I just use Enfeeb and Elem torques >_>

[Midnightjade]

maybe ToAU will have ammo/ranged?

that way, rangers, pups, and corsairs get boned completely

or give each job a ranged slot
rangers a bow or gun
puppetmaster another animator
and corsairs a hexagun

EVERBODY WINS!

BRDs would probably bandcamp the SE designers en masse if it was ranged/ammo since we already carry around like 15 instruments (well, those of us that are compulsive >.>).

[Khamsin]

Maybe they'll just cop out and give you a choice of any RoZ earring or CoP ring without adding any new items, so those who didn't get suppa or tamas ring can make a new choice. lol