Upcoming Version Update (02/09/2007)

[Xavier]

That would mean they have to design new HNMs which are harder, and we all know they don't like to do that

They don't like to do what? Design harder fights or design new HNMs period?

I should clarify I only consider something an HNM if it has drops that go beyond a crystal.

[amlaruil]

Guys, I don't know how long I can last... if 'change' talk continues, I might explode into an idea-posting frenzy.

For the love of god, fix 2-hand vs h2h/dw balance before they increase the cap.

Fixed.

[Septimus]

That would mean they have to design new HNMs which are harder, and we all know they don't like to do that

They don't like to do what? Design harder fights or design new HNMs period?

I should clarify I only consider something an HNM if it has drops that go beyond crafting materials for JSE that no one wants.

Fixed for Bahamut.

[Tajin]

I have seen quite a few BST wearing that things >.>

[Sidanoir]

That would mean they have to design new HNMs which are harder, and we all know they don't like to do that

They don't like to do what? Design harder fights or design new HNMs period?

I should clarify I only consider something an HNM if it has drops that go beyond crafting materials for JSE that no one wants.

Fixed for Bahamut.

You mean no one wants Barone Body, Manteels or DRK JSE? >

The real JSE fail is that new BST set from Khim>.>

[Almalexia]

As someone who is trying to get a second character through CoP, I must respectfully ask you to go to hell. >_>

As someone who has taken 2 characters through CoP, I must respectfully ask you to go join him in hell. I actually enjoyed the trip more the second time through, and it wasn't the level caps that got me. It was my arch-nemesis Windurst.

[Seditedi]

They will never ever raise the level cap past 75 since the entire game would go all wonky.

Drain/Aspir 2, Ele debuff 2, etc. WHM also have a few spells, I think pro/shell 6, curaga5, Cure6.

Didn't think they have ele debuff 2 in game, can tell from /recast "insert w/e here"

Drain/Aspir 2 would be fookin godly if they gave it to us though, lol. Would prolly be something lame like DRK onry <_<. But if BLM could get Aspir 2 wow.. 300 MP Aspir hell yea!

[Dezzimal]

Did anyone make the "will you still play after this version update?" topic yet, or is this the place?

[Nystul]

I think I should let it be known that if you are genuinely excited for chocobo races then I think you are a horrible person and I don't want to associate with you anymore. You're the kind of person that goes to see Norbit in the theaters, and gives us Norbit II- The Fattening (Because being fat is automatically funny!) in 8 months.

You are the reason for all the bad things in the world. Good day to you.

[BRP]

I think I should let it be known that if you are genuinely excited for chocobo races then I think you are a horrible person and I don't want to associate with you anymore. You're the kind of person that goes to see Norbit in the theaters, and gives us Norbit II- The Fattening (Because being fat is automatically funny!) in 8 months.

You are the reason for all the bad things in the world. Good day to you.

I'm genuinely excited for chocobo races and I'm an AWESOME person.

[Mattthemaster]

That would mean they have to design new HNMs which are harder, and we all know they don't like to do that

They don't like to do what? Design harder fights or design new HNMs period?

I should clarify I only consider something an HNM if it has drops that go beyond crafting materials for JSE that no one wants.

Fixed for Bahamut.

You mean no one wants Barone Body, Manteels or DRK JSE? >

The real JSE fail is that new BST set from Khim>.>

Fairly sure he meant the server's luck on Khim, not bahamut the mob.

[Lordwafik]

Khimaera's JSE fails, not because it's lolbst, but because it's Bison +1 +1

Example :

Level: 71
Slot: Body
Type: Armor: Leather
Jobs: BST
Races: All
Defense: 44
Auction House Category:
Armor / Body
Effects for Bison Jacket:

* MP +21
* Charisma +4
* Enmity -2
* Additional Effect vs Plantoids: Charm +5


Then you get the Khimaera version :

Level: 71
Slot: Body
Type: Armor: Leather
Jobs: BST
Races: All
Defense: 45
Auction House Category:
Armor / Body
Effects for Khimaira Jacket:

* HP +21
* MP +21
* Dexterity +4
* Vitality +4
* Charisma +4
* Enmity -2
* Additional Effect vs Plantoids: Charm +5


What would be more acceptable is if you needed the bison jacket + khimaera mane and it'd synth into the khimaera version, so more of an upgrade than another complete synth to form a +1 version.

I'm looking at you too Hydra.

[Therin]

I want to see the other wyrms come out tbh with drops better than anything in the game.

Lightning wyrm, En-Thunder, wing adds stun effect
Thundaga III, Shockspikes, some Thunder damage blast

Wind Wyrm, En-Aero, Wing adds silence
Aeroga III, Blink, A wind damage Blast

Holy Wyrm, En-Light, wing adds dia 3
Banshiga III, various buff's, Holy damage blast

Water wyrm, En-Water, wing adds poison.
Waterga III, Waterga IV, water damage blast.

insert whatever 2hours you want.

Normal wyrm's two-hours correspond to the element of the wyrm. So it should be something like this:

Lightning: Eagle Eye Shot - Shoots a massive ball of lightning energy once every landing, on a random person on the hate list (similar to Proto-Ultima's Holy II and Gulool Ja Ja's Vorpal Wheel). OR Hundred Fists (LOL)

Wind: Perfect Dodge

Holy: Benediction - Every landing after the first, meaning you have basically 6 minutes to zerg the wyrm down.

Water: Manafont - Every landing, with immediate -ga IV cast. OR Meikyo Shisui

Those would be pretty hot.

[Lordender]

Or you know instead of keep adding fucking retarded JSE how about uhh they actually FIX THE FUCKING JOBS, STOP adding JSE in hope to fix broken jobs.

Where is the damn 2h weapon fix, or the lolscythe boost for drk.

Where are the bst fixes? the one were SE goes "please have faith in us", give me a fuckin break.

[Chupunpupun]

Khimaera's JSE fails, not because it's lolbst, but because it's Bison +1 +1

Example :

Level: 71
Slot: Body
Type: Armor: Leather
Jobs: BST
Races: All
Defense: 44
Auction House Category:
Armor / Body
Effects for Bison Jacket:

* MP +21
* Charisma +4
* Enmity -2
* Additional Effect vs Plantoids: Charm +5


Then you get the Khimaera version :

Level: 71
Slot: Body
Type: Armor: Leather
Jobs: BST
Races: All
Defense: 45
Auction House Category:
Armor / Body
Effects for Khimaira Jacket:

* HP +21
* MP +21
* Dexterity +4
* Vitality +4
* Charisma +4
* Enmity -2
* Additional Effect vs Plantoids: Charm +5


What would be more acceptable is if you needed the bison jacket + khimaera mane and it'd synth into the khimaera version, so more of an upgrade than another complete synth to form a +1 version.

I'm looking at you too Hydra.

Bison gear sucks as it is already....The only reason I can think of why SE made Khimaira JSE is to give BST another slap in the face. They should have taken the oppurtunity to give BST something different with the Khimaira JSE......

[Khamsin]

I hope the final expansion is hella hard so it lasts a long time...

The final expansion may be years down the line. Already another being started I think, then who knows how many after that.

[Lordwafik]

Bison gear sucks as it is already....The only reason I can think of why SE made Khimaira JSE is to give BST another slap in the face. They should have taken the oppurtunity to give BST something different with the Khimaira JSE......

Yup, now had Khimaera gear been : "Charm : Morbols" or "Charm : Manticores" or something along those lines, they'd sell for at least 1m a pop.

[Lordender]

The final expansion may be years down the line. Already another being started I think, then who knows how many after that.

SE won't have many players left if their expansion's keep feeling "CoP'ish" filled with lame HNM's and useless additions. If you came up to me before CoP came out and said that in a couple of years we would be killing HNM's that have laughable droprates and craft materials for lolJSE I would say your nuts. I think an expansion fails when it doesn't get people out of the same 3-5 zones for years.

To be fair though the jury is still out on ToAU, it has the potential to change everything that was wrong content wise.

[Nystul]

RE Khimaira gear/bison gear- I had our resident leathercrafter make me a Khimaira bonnet because it was the only one that had an undetermined effect on it (lower reward recast) and I wanted to see if it was appreciably less.

It takes 10 sec off a 2 min timer. WHOPADEDOOOOOO \:D/ http://www.thoseguys.us/forums/image...es/runaway.gif \:D/


As for BRP being an awesome person, I'm sorry but it is a proven, undisputable law of nature. Wanting choco racing means you're also a pedophilic baby molester who tortures kittens and leaves dirty aids needles on public beaches. For shame.

[Sho]

See, if Tier 2 Merits for BLU are in this, I'm straight on the updates.