Oh what a wonderful world!

[Sidanoir]

Um I see two cities in the far east...

Look again, half of that map is called Near East, which is the current Aht Urghan. The other half of that map is called Far East, which is showing the eastern city of Aht Urghan. They've kindly left off the other empire in the Far East of the map that they're at war with.

Eastern city of Aht Urghan?
I see one part of the map a different color (not released yet) which has one dot..

I see the current part which has one dot...

So where is there not 2 cities?

[Septimus]

Um I see two cities in the far east...

Look again, half of that map is called Near East, which is the current Aht Urghan. The other half of that map is called Far East, which is showing the eastern city of Aht Urghan. They've kindly left off the other empire in the Far East of the map that they're at war with.

Eastern city of Aht Urghan?
I see one part of the map a different color (not released yet) which has one dot..

I see the current part which has one dot...

So where is there not 2 cities?

There are not two dots in the "unreleased" area of the map. There would be at least a dot for the western capital of Aht Urghan and one for Tenzen's empire.

[Girl]

If SE truly plans to implement all the rest of this crap with a map that freakin huge, it'll probably take another 10 years for it all to be complete.

[Sidanoir]

Um I see two cities in the far east...

Look again, half of that map is called Near East, which is the current Aht Urghan. The other half of that map is called Far East, which is showing the eastern city of Aht Urghan. They've kindly left off the other empire in the Far East of the map that they're at war with.

Eastern city of Aht Urghan?
I see one part of the map a different color (not released yet) which has one dot..

I see the current part which has one dot...

So where is there not 2 cities?

Gotcha...

So on this basis its a farse?
I was confused cause he said he dont see 2 cities in that area..and I clearly did.
I did not realize he was refering to 2 needing to be in Aht Urghan area...

At any rate what if its a non mog house capital?!
There are not two dots in the "unreleased" area of the map. There would be at least a dot for the western capital of Aht Urghan and one for Tenzen's empire.

[Sidanoir]

Um I see two cities in the far east...

Look again, half of that map is called Near East, which is the current Aht Urghan. The other half of that map is called Far East, which is showing the eastern city of Aht Urghan. They've kindly left off the other empire in the Far East of the map that they're at war with.

Eastern city of Aht Urghan?
I see one part of the map a different color (not released yet) which has one dot..

I see the current part which has one dot...

So where is there not 2 cities?

.

Gotcha...

So on this basis its a farse?
I was confused cause he said he dont see 2 cities in that area..and I clearly did.
I did not realize he was refering to 2 needing to be in Aht Urghan area...

At any rate what if its a non mog house capital?!
There are not two dots in the "unreleased" area of the map. There would be at least a dot for the western capital of Aht Urghan and one for Tenzen's empire

[Minions]

If anything this is a concept map.... what they invisioned to happen throughout the MMO. Doesn't mean they will eventually release it all, its just what they thought out. The map makes sense. Idea's change over time, so even if they release the "Far East" then they could add more cities as they feel fit.

[deivi]

We've had at least two expansions provide information about the empire of the far east.

ok with you so far

The empire of the far east is not Aht Urghan.

right

It would bring the major city count in the Far East to two cities, not only one which is what is displayed on the map. The Empire of Aht Urghan as a major city on it's eastern front, that'd be one city. The Empire of the Far East, which Tenzen is from, which is at war with Aht Urghan, would be the second city. They neglected that small detail, but still chose to sprinkle a large number of major cities all over the map lets you know this is just a "wishful thinking" map and not based on solid in-game lore or details released by S-E.

...what?

[Starr]

IMO if they wanted to release all them expansions they'd have to raise level cap, just keep all current areas at 75 cap or something.

[Minions]

Also as far as the two cities.... maybe we will get some awsome nomad moogles like Nashmau for one

[klvino]

Al Zahbi is described as the Empire of Aht Urhgan's east capital.

Also, there is only one dot on that map in the far east, half of that square is labeled near east.

In the lore of Aht Urghan, we are at the western front of the empire. The eastern front is currently at war with the "great eastern empire", Tenzen's home.

You're restating the point that I made about the Far East section of the map, it's missing a major city. The dot on the Near East is the current Al Zahbi/Aht Urghan. The dot on the Far East is the Eastern front of the Empire of Aht Urghan, but where is the dot for the Empire of the Far East?

[Sady]

Arguing over one city or two is trvial... It could be one city divided in two alla post WWII Berlin for all we know.

If anything this is a concept map.... what they invisioned to happen throughout the MMO. Doesn't mean they will eventually release it all, its just what they thought out. The map makes sense. Idea's change over time, so even if they release the "Far East" then they could add more cities as they feel fit.

Precisely. I just thought it's interesting how grand FFXI's original dev team's wanted the game to be.

[deivi]

I wouldnt get too hung up on the # of dots, by that logic selbina/mhaura/norg/rabao/kazham/tavnazia/nashmau dont exist either.

still say fake though, SE isnt in the habbit of releasing info on stuff more than a couple months in advance

[Minions]

I wouldnt get too hung up on the # of dots, by that logic selbina/mhaura/norg/rabao/kazham/tavnazia/nasamu dont exist either.

still say fake though, SE sint in the habbit of releasing stuff more than a couple months in advance

Ok have you ever tried to sell an idea to a parent company? This was probably a map to show how the story line worked out. How all the history fit togeather and what possibilities they would have in the future to expand the current game. You dont start a game without figuring out how/what can be done to extend its lifespan and continue to make money. Take the map of a conceptual drawing to show how the story line works out.

[Judai]

I wouldnt get too hung up on the # of dots, by that logic selbina/mhaura/norg/rabao/kazham/tavnazia/nashmau dont exist either.

still say fake though, SE isnt in the habbit of releasing info on stuff more than a couple months in advance

That doesn't mean they don't have a "plan" for everything tho. Like most MMOs, they have a plan of thw world and what they will add before they release the first part of the game.

[Eanae]

More HNM camps would be nice. Last search I did of Aspid camp on Fairy brought back 230 people in the zone...

[LinktheDeme]

More HNM camps would be nice. Last search I did of Aspid camp on Fairy brought back 230 people in the zone...

people still camp that pos?

[bebeci]

More HNM camps would be nice. Last search I did of Aspid camp on Fairy brought back 230 people in the zone...

people still camp that pos?

I don't recall everyone having Dalamaticas.

[Gwynplaine]

This the result of a speculative thread that was posted on the KI General Chat Forums a couple of weeks back...

http://www.killingifrit.com/forums.p...9f82eaa378c719

Pretty sure that's the same map...

Anyway, it's very interesting and some of the speculation is based on what looks like sound assumptions, but still mostly all speculation.

What he said. This is taken from a topic Octoberasian made on KI. He/she made the map

I drew the islands as an example and as a point of reference only, and going according to what was in the Vana'diel Tribune and FFXI Wiki.

But it's a really well made map, it speaks to his or her ability that so many people would think that it's real. It seems like a really good estimate of how things could be setup to expand.

[klvino]

More HNM camps would be nice. Last search I did of Aspid camp on Fairy brought back 230 people in the zone...

So very true, regardless of whether this map is real or not, more worthwhile camps would be nice. We may not have much hope left in this expansion, so here's to hoping for better in the next.

[Khalil]

More HNM camps would be nice. Last search I did of Aspid camp on Fairy brought back 230 people in the zone...

At best, in Kujata, we have about 60-70 on Aspid. Frequently, Adamantoise is always up and inclaimed for hours on end.

I honestly hope SE plans on fixing the major problems that have plagued FFXI since its release and then move onto releasing these new areas. Or do both at the same time...