Random Question Thread

[StaplerGuy]

I got all of mine in the garden, kinda near the entrance off to the left and right. There were corner rooms with 3 of them and I would just run back and forth between the left and right sides (I don't remember if this was west and east, haven't been in there in a while ;/) killing them all.

I'll give it a shot, thanks.

[Scythiroth]

I got all of mine in the garden, kinda near the entrance off to the left and right. There were corner rooms with 3 of them and I would just run back and forth between the left and right sides (I don't remember if this was west and east, haven't been in there in a while ;/) killing them all.

I'll give it a shot, thanks.

That drop rate sucks pretty bad no matter what though.

I just ended up getting 1 a day to avoid going insane from being there for more than 3-4 hours at a time.

[StaplerGuy]

That drop rate sucks pretty bad no matter what though.

I just ended up getting 1 a day to avoid going insane from being there for more than 3-4 hours at a time.

See, I had heard this, but only now, going about three drops in maybe eight hours, can I truly appreciate it. It's okay, I have a habit of letting my buffer get down to about 2k, I could use the XP.

[Scythiroth]

That drop rate sucks pretty bad no matter what though.

I just ended up getting 1 a day to avoid going insane from being there for more than 3-4 hours at a time.

See, I had heard this, but only now, going about three drops in maybe eight hours, can I truly appreciate it. It's okay, I have a habit of letting my buffer get down to about 2k, I could use the XP.

I think I probably got around 40k-50k exp getting all 5 organs. ;/

[Tirrock]

That drop rate sucks pretty bad no matter what though.

I just ended up getting 1 a day to avoid going insane from being there for more than 3-4 hours at a time.

See, I had heard this, but only now, going about three drops in maybe eight hours, can I truly appreciate it. It's okay, I have a habit of letting my buffer get down to about 2k, I could use the XP.

I think I probably got around 40k-50k exp getting all 5 organs. ;/

Jeez, I think my friend and I "only" got 15k exp or so getting 10. My signature came from hunting these organs.

[StaplerGuy]

Jeez, I think my friend and I "only" got 15k exp or so getting 10. My signature came from hunting these organs.

Hmm, I went from 2 to 15 then back to 7 with deaths along the way, I'd say... I got about 20k total for three.

[Seraphise]

can anyone post results of Sorcerer's Gloves vs Zenith Mitts?

[Lordwafik]

can anyone post results of Sorcerer's Gloves vs Zenith Mitts?

Src = 7%
Zenith = 5%

[Nerull]

can anyone post results of Sorcerer's Gloves vs Zenith Mitts?

Src = 7%
Zenith = 5%

umm... try again?

[Koyangi]

sorc = 6%
zenith = 5%

[Hapernack]

can anyone post results of Sorcerer's Gloves vs Zenith Mitts?

Src = 7%
Zenith = 5%

umm... try again?

sorc = 6%
zenith = 5%

No to Koy and no to Wafik.

Src = +5% damage
Zenith NQ = +5MAB
Zenith HQ = +6MAB

5% is between 5MAB and 6MAB. So they're not quite better than HQ Mitts (Mitts also activate everywhere and not just on MBs). Zenith HQ is so far the best equipment for damage in any situation. Zenith NQ is the best for any situation that doesn't involve MBing in which case you should macro in Src Gloves if you have them.

The same effect exists on the Static Earring, which makes Novio + Static on a MB the most powerful damaging combo possible in all the game.

[Koyangi]

I've always seen its effect described as a MAB increase, therefore listed it as a 6MAB, I substituted "MAB" with "%," they are synonymous in how I responded to Wafik. Maybe breaking down the 256th of the math it truncates differently, but I have always heard it was a raw 6% (orMAB), which does outperform NQ Zenith on MB, but not HQ. On a side note, Yigit Gages do have the possibility to outperform NQ Zenith, and I'm wondering how close they come to HQ with more INT added vs MAB. (The higher the dmg you deal, MAB benefit has diminishing returns vs INT increase). I can dig up an old topic showing SS of some nukes I did showing this.

[Hapernack]

I've always seen its effect described as a MAB increase, therefore listed it as a 6MAB, I substituted "MAB" with "%," they are synonymous in how I responded to Wafik. Maybe breaking down the 256th of the math it truncates differently, but I have always heard it was a raw 6% (orMAB), which does outperform NQ Zenith on MB, but not HQ.

I wasn't calling you out on anything other than being incorrect with your info. That's very nice that someone or some site told you it was MAB but its a +% increase when its worded "Bonus damage added to Magic Burst".

On a side note, Yigit Gages do have the possibility to outperform NQ Zenith, and I'm wondering how close they come to HQ with more INT added vs MAB. (The higher the dmg you deal, MAB benefit has diminishing returns vs INT increase). I can dig up an old topic showing SS of some nukes I did showing this.

Now this on the other hand makes no sense the way you put it. Lower tier spells are affected damage-wise better with INT builds rather than MAB builds but higher-tier spells are better with MAB builds. That's a very basic knowledge rule.

[Koyangi]

Now this on the other hand makes no sense the way you put it. Lower tier spells are affected damage-wise better with INT builds rather than MAB builds but higher-tier spells are better with MAB builds. That's a very basic knowledge rule.

That's exactly it, I've actually nuked for more with Yigit Gages vs NQ Zenith before, I gotta find the topic, and I'll link you to it.

[Hapernack]

That's exactly it, I've actually nuked for more with Yigit Gages vs NQ Zenith before, I gotta find the topic, and I'll link you to it.

With which spells? That makes no sense because the way the game's damage formula works that would never happen on say an AMII or a Tier IV spell.

[Koyangi]

That's exactly it, I've actually nuked for more with Yigit Gages vs NQ Zenith before, I gotta find the topic, and I'll link you to it.

With which spells? That makes no sense because the way the game's damage formula works that would never happen on say an AMII or a Tier IV spell.

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/viewto ... ges#394827

[Hapernack]

What does this prove? You weren't using an obi so maybe you just had a random portion of bonus between casts that didn't kick in consistently. The whole thread looks just like a huge BLM epeen thread. I've never seen any evidence of an "MAB cap" and in fact have seen a mountain of evidence of otherwise.

Even if there were an MAB cap you certainly haven't reached it. You have an NQ Weskit and NQ Mitts and no Novio whereas I have HQs and the Novio which still massively increased my damage. My MAB set is complete save for a single point of MAB and my INT build is short by 1 INT as well. In none of my extensive selections of testing have I found a sort of cap to exist like there is with Haste influences.

[Koyangi]

I got it to happen quite often, I will try again tomorrow, and see what results I can get, I'll take more SS if I see it again. What the poster after me was saying, and he is a "MAIN" 75 BLM, is that the effect of INT to your build is enhanced more by the more MAB you have, so my mitts and gages were at a point where in the formula my MAB was high enough to allow the stats on the gages to factor a higher result than my mitts did on that nuke and many others.

[Hapernack]

I got it to happen quite often, I will try again tomorrow, and see what results I can get, I'll take more SS if I see it again. What the poster after me was saying, and he is a "MAIN" 75 BLM, is that the effect of INT to your build is enhanced more by the more MAB you have, so my mitts and gages were at a point where in the formula my MAB was high enough to allow the stats on the gages to factor a higher result than my mitts did on that nuke and many others.

Yes but if this were true then with my MAB level I could switch out my Ugg pendant with my Prudence Torque and come out with more damage almost every time. You have over 8MAB less than I do and 10+ less INT than I do just by default. So using your reasoning I could have a Prudence Torque outdamage someone with the same build as me but with Ugg Pendant latent active.

[Koyangi]

I got it to happen quite often, I will try again tomorrow, and see what results I can get, I'll take more SS if I see it again. What the poster after me was saying, and he is a "MAIN" 75 BLM, is that the effect of INT to your build is enhanced more by the more MAB you have, so my mitts and gages were at a point where in the formula my MAB was high enough to allow the stats on the gages to factor a higher result than my mitts did on that nuke and many others.

Yes but if this were true then with my MAB level I could switch out my Ugg pendant with my Prudence Torque and come out with more damage almost every time. You have over 8MAB less than I do and 10+ less INT than I do just by default. So using your reasoning I could have a Prudence Torque outdamage someone with the same build as me but with Ugg Pendant latent active.

The difference in Prudence Torque and Ugg Pendant is much bigger than Yigit Gages and Zenith Mitts. It's basically like comparing Snow Ring to Sorc Ring, Sorc Ring's bonus is so big, it will still outshine.