Random Question Thread

[Jackyl]

Jugg/Tatami: +8
Heca Cap: +11(+12 HQ)
Heca Harness: +12 (+13 HQ)
Alky's: +11
Foragers: +3
WAR cuisses: +5
Heca Feet: +6 (+7 HQ)
Rajas/Flame: +10
Triumph x2: +4 (+8 if 2x Vampire's at night)
Spike Necklace: +3
Elvaan RSE Sachet: +2
Red Curry: +7

+82 with NQ during the day, +89 with HQ heca using 2x Vamps at night.

Also this is obviously not a set someone would WS in all things considering, like Gorget > Spike Necklace, adaberk > heca harness, wouldn't be using Tatami. So in all reality most likely going to be Rampaging in +72-75 STR.

You forgot the waist slot (warwolf/war. stone) for +5 :wink:

[Blackice]

Oops, lol. Yeah, Ruke has warrior's stone.

[TB]

Justice Torque for Neck.

[Blackice]

Haha, oops forgot that one also.

[Awoir]

cerb mantle+1

[Blackice]

Wasn't around at the time of his screenshot of max STR.

[Keller]

Sort of the same question with opposing Leg equipment for WS.

Warriors Cuisses (STR 5, DA+1) or Byakko's Haidate for Rampage?

I use the Warriors Cuisses mainly in my Great Axe WS set ups. But Im not really comfortable using them for Rampage at all, due to the major DEX loss which possibly cuts down the spike of Rampage. But Ive always wonder which would turn out to be better over time. And I gennerally use Sushi when off handing Ridill. For Axe/axe, I use attack food.

Example of my Rampage Set Up:

Wep: Jugg/Ridill or Maneater
Ammo: O. Sachet (Elvaan)
Head: Hecatomb Cap
Neck: Soil Gorget
Earrings: Minuet or Bushi (2 STR 5GKT skill one) & Brutal
Body: Adaman Haberk
Hands: Hecatomb Mittens
Rings: Flame & Rajas
Back: AM+1
Waist: Warwolf belt
Legs: Byakko Haidate
Feet: Hecatomb Leggings

[Blackice]

I prefer AF2 legs for Rampage personally, but I've heard others sticking with Haidate. I personally don't tend to have ACC issues during WS, but to each their own on this one I guess. Both are quite exceptional pieces for Rampage and I don't think either will make or break the WS itself. Try them both out and see which you like I do however think the best possible leg Rampage piece would be Heca Subligar.

[Orph]

I have pretty much that same gear, but i picked suppa . I had Adaberk and ridill before haidate so i was using af2 legs. When i got haidate, i started using that for ws and noticed my average ws went up by about 50 points on the parser. I started the exp party using af2 and switched to haidate about an hour in and it rose my rampage average a good bit.

[Ryko]

Fucking heca subligar

[Keller]

Yeah I figured it would a personal choice on this one. Ive tested the different legs on my own in random EXP parties, but the inconsisentacy (sp) of Rampage make it much harder to really notice/follow the increases and decreases. Ill probably have to pick one leg piece exclusively (for WS anyways) per party then compare later on.

And yeah I know about the Hecatomb Subligar (DEX+8 Att+20(?)) but surpisingly the best WS leg piece for Warriors has Thief priority all over it.


edit: grammar

[wop]

Why all endgame NA's on my server nuke wyrms/bahamut v2/etc... wearing weskit, whereas endgame JP's use houplande instead?
Are we missing something here?
p/s Almost everyone in my team uses Mahatma houp on grand wyrms, and only swap in weskit for adds.

Our standard BLM team equip on HNM's:-

AF2 hat
Houplande
Ele torque
AF1 hands
Nashira feet
Mahatma Slops
Merciful Cape

I think the INT to skill ratio on the body is good (same goes for mahatma slops rather than druid).

Do BLM's in your server nuke in houp? or weskit?

[safer]

Fucking heca subligar

wasnt that the result of the 16h nidhogg? my memory is a bit fuzzy

[Orph]

When i watch other lses fight tiamat, a lot of their blms wear weskit or black cloak the entire fight. They have no -enmity or haste when all they are doing is stunning. On asura i havent seen anyone nuke tiamat to death, its always mainly smn damage.

[Not Kuno]

JP BLM are all mentally retarded.

[Marsala]

Sort of the same question with opposing Leg equipment for WS.

Warriors Cuisses (STR 5, DA+1) or Byakko's Haidate for Rampage?

I use the Warriors Cuisses mainly in my Great Axe WS set ups. But Im not really comfortable using them for Rampage at all, due to the major DEX loss which possibly cuts down the spike of Rampage. But Ive always wonder which would turn out to be better over time. And I gennerally use Sushi when off handing Ridill. For Axe/axe, I use attack food.

Example of my Rampage Set Up:

Wep: Jugg/Ridill or Maneater
Ammo: O. Sachet (Elvaan)
Head: Hecatomb Cap
Neck: Soil Gorget
Earrings: Minuet or Bushi (2 STR 5GKT skill one) & Brutal
Body: Adaman Haberk
Hands: Hecatomb Mittens
Rings: Flame & Rajas
Back: AM+1
Waist: Warwolf belt
Legs: Byakko Haidate
Feet: Hecatomb Leggings

I do not have Bakkos Haidate but I always notice the difference in my rampages when I dont double attack. Double always sky rockets rampage dmg. (i.e - no DA 16 vs. 17-19 return w/ DA)

[SamanosukeShiva]

Alright I have a question, If i have 151 STR for WS (wep. DMG=83), how much Attack would I need to back up the STR against high lvl mob like.... Kirin or some random Wyrm.

[Kerberoz]

Why all endgame NA's on my server nuke wyrms/bahamut v2/etc... wearing weskit, whereas endgame JP's use houplande instead?
Are we missing something here?
p/s Almost everyone in my team uses Mahatma houp on grand wyrms, and only swap in weskit for adds.

Our standard BLM team equip on HNM's:-

AF2 hat
Houplande
Ele torque
AF1 hands
Nashira feet
Mahatma Slops
Merciful Cape

I think the INT to skill ratio on the body is good (same goes for mahatma slops rather than druid).

Do BLM's in your server nuke in houp? or weskit?

JP BLM are all mentally retarded.

^ Full ele skill, of course including weskit, on anything as resistant as a grand wyrm. Some JPs on my server use the Hpl. for nuking too... I have absolutely no idea why. Sat around with filters off watching a JP BLM nuke Khimaira in Hpl, AF1 hat (this is a linkshell that probably has full af2 on everyone), Rostrum Pumps (lol...?), and there was one other retarded piece of gear... forget what it was offhand.

He was doing 60 dmg nearly every nuke. But! He wasn't pulling hate!

[Charitwo]

JP BLM are all mentally retarded.

Kuno says it best... take a look through the worst equipped melee/mage thread, you'll see some JP in the pit in the most delightful gear.

[Suiram]

I wear errant body on wyrms, Nidhogg, and Khimaira. There's not much of a damage difference, and I pile on elemental skill in other slots. It's about the enmity. With the setup I use on the above mobs I get -21 enmity from gear and food, while still retaining 52 Elemental Skill and 22 MAB, not counting merits. For example, fighting Khimaira (provided we brought enough people to where the tanks have the proper support and don't need emergency help from the BLMs), you can nuke basically non-stop over the course of a 30-45 min fight, doing 400-450 damage blizzard 4s with 70-80% accuracy and never pull hate. If the goal is to do as much damage as you can over the course of the fight without pulling hate--as it is in a fight like that with the proper support--enmity starts to matter a lot more than your elemental skill, especially when you can get skill in other slots. If anything I'd wear AF2 body before weskit (and probably will if I ever get the AF2+1).