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    Re: Random Question Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomino
    Subbing /nin pretty stupid at that level range in exp.
    i thought it was /THF from 60 to 70 and then back to /NIN, guess i'm wrong?
    I wouldn't sub /nin in exp until 55-60 range(unless you have an unconventional setup), when SATA mandibular bite and sickle slash start to become somewhat weak, and you get access to better swords like the musketeer captain's falchion and the WW anelace(and vorpal blade if you have sword merits). Than obviously switch back to /thf at 60.

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    Re: Random Question Thread

    Thanks for the answers Aurik, Bagel and Fantasticdan =)

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    What's a good low numbers "Shell We Dance?" ENM setup?

    Read 2xRDM and BLM should be able to take it but we've tried twice now with that setup and we keep wiping with Parata @20-30% His spawns and Bladmall's -aga tend to overwhelm us pretty quick.

    Starting with AMII then CS+BlizzIII soon as AM lands.

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    Re: Random Question Thread

    Which is better, bomb core or hume rse satchet for SA WS? (spiral hell, spinning slash, ground strike)

    Common sense would say bomb core, but what do ya'll think?

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    Re: Random Question Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaope
    Which is better, bomb core or hume rse satchet for SA WS? (spiral hell, spinning slash, ground strike)

    Common sense would say bomb core, but what do ya'll think?
    I actually had to look the sachet up.. lol

    I'd say 12 attack is going to outperform 1 str and 1 int in just about every realistic situation.

    consider going to the RSE sachet if your pdif is basically capped vs target, otherwise I'd use the bomb core.

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    Re: Random Question Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Amele
    consider going to the RSE sachet if your pdif is basically capped vs target, otherwise I'd use the bomb core.
    And how am I suppose to know whether I've capped my pdif or not?

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    Re: Random Question Thread

    This one maybe
    viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18787&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&h ilit=PDIF

    its all over BG really. :D

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    Re: Random Question Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaope
    Quote Originally Posted by Amele
    consider going to the RSE sachet if your pdif is basically capped vs target, otherwise I'd use the bomb core.
    And how am I suppose to know whether I've capped my pdif or not?
    speaking for merit and very generally:
    most level 80 mobs are in the area of 280-300 defense - you would need 600 attack to reach a PDIF of ~2.0; (PDIF caps at 2.5)

    once you know your pdif and your base damage, you can make comparisons between +1 str +1 int on fstr(fstr2()) and wsc mods vs +1% attack (+12 is going to add ~.04 to PDIF)

    another way to estimate your pdif is to compare your mode swing damage to your mode crit damage; if the crit is double your regular swing, you're at a 1.0 PDIF (+1.0 crit = 2.0) if the crit is 50% more than your regular swing, you're at a 2.0 PDIF (2.0 + 1.0 crit = 3.0) if the crit is only 20% more than the regular swing, you're capped. (crits cap at 3.0 so 3.0/2.5 = 1.2 )

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    Re: Random Question Thread

    Does Reflect from Colibri really act like magic shield while the colibri is casting back to the hate holder?

    All merit PT mob when not debuffed have 330~370 def. 280~300 is too low

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    Re: Random Question Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by VZX
    Does Reflect from Colibri really act like magic shield while the colibri is casting back to the hate holder?
    colibri seem to cast back on either the caster or the one with hate. i haven't established a pattern, but i know my elegies were thrown back at me (their chr is atrocious. they'd stick like 1/40 elegies they threw at me.) and i never pulled hate when i was lvling brd on them.

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    Re: Random Question Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by VZX
    All merit PT mob when not debuffed have 330~370 def. 280~300 is too low
    was I confusing evasion perhaps? the number ~286 and colibri sticks in my head for some reason. I have to admit I didn't go verify against a source before making that last post. (nice of a source to drop in and correct me)

    in any case: ~700 attack for 2.0 pdif in my previous post.

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    Re: Random Question Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Spekkio
    Quote Originally Posted by VZX
    Does Reflect from Colibri really act like magic shield while the colibri is casting back to the hate holder?
    colibri seem to cast back on either the caster or the one with hate. i haven't established a pattern, but i know my elegies were thrown back at me (their chr is atrocious. they'd stick like 1/40 elegies they threw at me.) and i never pulled hate when i was lvling brd on them.
    So It doesn't act like magic shield ?
    Was thinking if it's worth it RDM throw dia III to it

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    Re: Random Question Thread

    If you're asking if it stops colibri from taking magic damage, it does not. Colibri just mimic spells cast on them, they don't reflect.

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    Re: Random Question Thread

    Does Cure V cap? Because I can't seem to cure past 840.

    291 healing magic, 78+50 MND, +20% cure effects (nobles and mace)

    According to Wiki I should be hitting 862.8. And yeah.

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    Re: Random Question Thread

    anyone seen Cerb GoH or Khim fulmination in nyzul?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkslitter
    anyone seen Cerb GoH or Khim fulmination in nyzul?
    Don't quote me on this but I remember reading that they only use Nerve Gas/GoH/Fulm (or was it Tourb? I'll guess Fulm cuz it's in the same category as Gas/GoH) on the 100th floor.

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    Re: Random Question Thread

    I've never really played around with Jailer of Fortitude. Usually it's very straightforward: kite him, kill his "pets", then kill him. I was wondering if casting a AM (I) on him would help with kiting?

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    Re: Random Question Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    I've never really played around with Jailer of Fortitude. Usually it's very straightforward: kite him, kill his "pets", then kill him. I was wondering if casting a AM (I) on him would help with kiting?
    His reflect is nearly instant cast its not the same duration as a normal persons spell. Casting little crap like blind and stone1 does help though

    Quote Originally Posted by Sagacious Sundi
    answer
    thanks, seen khim like 5 times and it hasn't fulminated once

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    Re: Random Question Thread

    what have you found to be THE best way to deal with JoJ spawns. we set up a pt of 4xBLM, RDM, and COR. the idea was for all of them to tier3. well, since i was tanking i couldn't watch too closely, but 85% of them got mijin gakure off and we fucking wiped. somehow we'd done this fight before with only 3blm so i don't know what happened. Should they /clock a time and time nuke? 2 blms rotating tier3 and tier4 nukes on one spawn then the other 2 blms on the next spawn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fallenleaf
    what have you found to be THE best way to deal with JoJ spawns. we set up a pt of 4xBLM, RDM, and COR. the idea was for all of them to tier3. well, since i was tanking i couldn't watch too closely, but 85% of them got mijin gakure off and we fucking wiped. somehow we'd done this fight before with only 3blm so i don't know what happened. Should they /clock a time and time nuke? 2 blms rotating tier3 and tier4 nukes on one spawn then the other 2 blms on the next spawn?
    Do the 2 blms doing tier3 and tier 4, but have the same 2 blms switch off which tier they do until they are out of mp. Then have the other 2 blms take over while the first group rests.

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