Paralysis and weapon skills

[Nikko]

No, just girls who play video games.

I absolutely love Quicklet's posts, he always seems to get beyond the pettiness of specifics and looks at the big picture.

[Weeks]

She removed the link to her LiveJournal from her profile and deleted her LJ contents. ; ;

Going by the melodramatic bullshit that was up on it last night, this chick is about 16 years old, fat, and starved for the kind of attention that fat 16 year olds can only find on the internet.

[LinktheDeme]

I see the forum talk on wiki of them being retarded about paralyze(the link in wafiks sig) but is there like an actual published thing about it that wses are effected by paralyze cause i cant find it aside from all the bashing and proving the admins are wrong < <

edit: Nvm found it and they changed it, or it would appear?

[cassiraa]

LOL @ the Alla Poll

1st reply: "Anyone who's played Ninja before uses Blade: Retsu. I'm not sure what your poll is about?"

[Septimus]

Are the wiki mods just completely retarded or something? lol

No, just girls who play video games.

Silly Quicklet. Girls don't play video games.

[Kirschy]

I didn't see anyone post this... but I remember having this dicussion a long time ago. I think some people might have been getting Mob TPs confused with mob JAs: "Mob readies BLABLA." as opposed to "Mob uses BLABLABLA." 'readies' is a WS and can't be para. 'uses' is a JA ability and can be para. An example that comes to mind is fighting a Quadav...

The Old Quadav uses Warcry.
The Old Quadav is paralyzed.

I could see how someone would get that confused with a WS, and feel like mob WS could be paralyzed.

[Sagacious Sundi]

Sorry for the semi-necrobump but:

(User rights log); 20:20 . . Ganiman (Talk | contribs) (changed group membership for User:Nynaeve from JRSysop to (none))

Does this mean that she is no longer an admin?

Also, what did Zero's guide say that is lollable? I'm too lazy to read all of it, especially if its lol-factor lies in the page history.

Also, my thoughts on the admins of the site:
Ganiman: He's cool. Keep up the great work!
Mierin: Err, I get them confused with other people sometimes. Sorry. ; ;
Gahoo: I forgot. Maybe he's more neutral or something.
Nynaeve: Eh, I guess in keeping the wiki "clean" like a more professional wiki such as Wikipedia she did a good job, often nominating articles for deletion or moving things to their proper location. However, I couldn't help but feel she has a problem with being proven wrong.
Chris: A nicer, more open-viewed version of Nynaeve I guess. Like someone said, it seemed he just defended her in this case, and seemed to have similar thought processes. Whether that's what keeps them close or some kind of call for help mechanism is beyond me.

Overall, it's a great site, and one of my favorites. If I were to choose the best FFXI sites, I would say BG for more opinions, fads, asking questions and whatever, and FFXIclopedia for more facts and flat-out information.

Also, in a the case of a monster using a JA and getting paralyzed, would you just see, in the above's example, "The Old Quadav is paralyzed." or would you see that in addition to "The Old Quadav uses Warcry." But then again I don't think that's a good example since I think a Quadav's Warcy is a TP ability. So just replace the Old with Diamond and Warcry with Benediction. Usually, the only Job Ability/Pet Command is their 2-hour ability (which is Charm and Call Wyvern in some cases). Even BST/DRG/PUP mobs that regularly call pets use the summoning animation (with no text, same goes for SMN mobs) and not abilities.

...Wow, I really got off-topic.

[Mierin]

Sorry for the semi-necrobump but:

(User rights log); 20:20 . . Ganiman (Talk | contribs) (changed group membership for User:Nynaeve from JRSysop to (none))

Does this mean that she is no longer an admin?

Yes

Also, what did Zero's guide say that is lollable? I'm too lazy to read all of it, especially if its lol-factor lies in the page history.

Well, it *has* improved, but it is still lol. He's a melee WHM in xp parties. Goes as WHM/NIN. He is the epitome of n00b. You really have to read the original to get the full effect. How it stands in the current state could somewhat be defended.

Also, my thoughts on the admins of the site:
Mierin: Err, I get them confused with other people sometimes. Sorry. ; ;

[Sagacious Sundi]

Sorry for the semi-necrobump but:

(User rights log); 20:20 . . Ganiman (Talk | contribs) (changed group membership for User:Nynaeve from JRSysop to (none))

Does this mean that she is no longer an admin?

Yes

Also, what did Zero's guide say that is lollable? I'm too lazy to read all of it, especially if its lol-factor lies in the page history.

Well, it *has* improved, but it is still lol. He's a melee WHM in xp parties. Goes as WHM/NIN. He is the epitome of n00b. You really have to read the original to get the full effect. How it stands in the current state could somewhat be defended.

Also, my thoughts on the admins of the site:
Mierin: Err, I get them confused with other people sometimes. Sorry. ; ;

I'm gonna go read that guide. >_>

And don't worry, I remember who you are now. You're a WHM person with a leathercraft guide. I just had you confused with someone else when I made that post

[Deftscythe]

Also, what did Zero's guide say that is lollable? I'm too lazy to read all of it, especially if its lol-factor lies in the page history.

Mainly that haste should only be cast on tanks to lower their recast times because the effect on melee was "not noticeable." Meanwhile in the same paragraph he says that casting haste on a melee may cause unwanted enmity. So apparently haste has some hidden effect that increases enmity without increasing DoT.

[Kattice]

Also, what did Zero's guide say that is lollable? I'm too lazy to read all of it, especially if its lol-factor lies in the page history.

Mainly that haste should only be cast on tanks to lower their recast times because the effect on melee was "not noticeable." Meanwhile in the same paragraph he says that casting haste on a melee may cause unwanted enmity. So apparently haste has some hidden effect that increases enmity without increasing DoT.

Someone never meleed I guess lol.

[Mierin]

And don't worry, I remember who you are now. You're a WHM person with a leathercraft guide. I just had you confused with someone else when I made that post

S'alright. Most people don't know who I am.

Gahoo, Chrisjander and Nynaeve do tons of editing and are usually at the forefront of administrative decisions. Ganiman, of course, owns/runs the site.

Although I've done lots of editing and handled some administrative stuff, my main role is legal advisor. I handle all the copyright issues and other legal matters. All those complaints come directly for me to deal with.

[Reggie_Asura]

ok so necro bump but i had something like this happen to me in Sea last night and the first thing that came to mind was this thread.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f6...6/IMG_0919.jpg

i dont even know if this is an ability or a weapon skill. the mob dies shortly after being paralyzed but not soon enough to have not used it.

am i missing something or does this mean mob WS's can be paralyzed?

[Not Kuno]

Do you have misses filtered? If you look at the log you dont see the Aern attacking anyone in what seems like a few attack rounds. Its regular attack was probably paralyzed and it died before WS went off.

[Reggie_Asura]

i don't have misses filtered on myself, but i do have most everything filtered on alliance/others.

i was standing away from the group when i casted and the mob came to me, it took about another 15 seconds before it died because it took a couple seconds for the group to come to me.

edit: also have dmg by alliance filtered that's why you dont see the dmg that Attik did to kill it.

[safer]

you have too much stuff filtered.. it looks like stun didnt even land before it died... im goin with what kuno said

edit: nm other things can explain stun not goin off unless timer wasnt down

[Ddong]

Mob ws can be paralyzed.

[divisortheory]

It's possible the WS did go off successfully and do damage against someone, and then a normal attack was paralyzed. Wish filters had been off though.

[RKenshin]

Wing Thrust has a pretty decent charge time... It's not instant like some of the other TP attacks. I'm betting it was stunned if not killed before the charge finished, and that single paralyze is the only way to explain the large gap in the Aern's attack rounds (unless it's filtered). Because it wouldn't just stand there all that time not attacking.

[Reggie_Asura]

after the Freeze 2 i was the target, that's the only reason i got the message, if someone else was the target i would not have got the message. no one else had hate after i nuked. it died before doing another attack round and the WS got paralyzed which i found odd because it really seemed like a long time that it just sat there.

no one else stunned it so not sure what happened.

edit: you could be right, if the charge time is long it might have died before getting it off and the paralyze was an attack round in the middle of the weapon skill.

just wasnt sure so i wanted to share it.