Naruto

[Maguspk]

As it turns out, the Konoha that was destroyed by Pein was, in fact, a decoy Konoha. The real Konoha was safely elevated onto several pillars. Each pillar is defended by members of the Konoha 11. There is one body of Pein en-route to each pillar.

We will all be extremely pissed off when Naruto takes 3 manga chapters to kill Konan, who randomly shows up after each Pain body has been defeated and we're ready to see the real Pain start fighting.

[Boyiee]

IT'LL SHORTEN YOUR LIFESPAN!!!! god has a lifespan?

Anyone else pick up on this lol

[Lujei]

IT'LL SHORTEN YOUR LIFESPAN!!!! god has a lifespan?

Anyone else pick up on this lol

He's not really God, he's just a megalomaniac who thinks he is. Or something along those lines.

Edit: However, someone does mention that the original Rinnegan user created the Ninja world, but even that's not enough to qualify as "God."

[Draggy]

As it turns out, the Konoha that was destroyed by Pein was, in fact, a decoy Konoha. The real Konoha was safely elevated onto several pillars. Each pillar is defended by members of the Konoha 11. There is one body of Pein en-route to each pillar.

Nooooooo i wont go through that shit again, lol

[Maguspk]

IT'LL SHORTEN YOUR LIFESPAN!!!! god has a lifespan?

Anyone else pick up on this lol

They called him Nagato in this instance though. It's kind of confusing but I think maybe it just shortened Nagato's lifespan and not Pein's necessarily. Assuming Nagato is dead and he's a revived body of Pein's then I guess it means the revival technique has a limit and it shortens it by half?

[BRP]

Overpowered characters just don't work in Naruto in my opinion. If someone could decimate the villages at any point, none of the villages would still be around. There wouldn't even be wars because everyone would be dead except for the top tier. You got hundreds of ninja soldiers, but what good are they if they have a low "power level."

I suppose I should hold back on the logic.

[nivlakian]

About reverse summoning, Naruto 409 page 04 | One Manga suggests that it only works due to making a pact of some kind so it seems unlikely they could simply transport the villagers away at will. Many of them (at least the children) should be in the mountain Naruto 421 page 11 | One Manga .


One thing that struck me as odd, was the mention of the technique, Shinra Tensei, shortening his life when he used it before while fighting Kakashi and others Naruto 423 page 02 | One Manga . So, it would seem that the scale at which it's used is what ends up shortening his lifespan than just the technique itself.


Naruto 429 page 09 | One Manga implies all of them will be doing summoning, but someone else's translation is "If it's Ma (i.e. the one doing the summoning), she can summon some rather strong guys along with us, so get ready right away!" which has quite a different meaning.

If someone could decimate the villages at any point, none of the villages would still be around.

Deidara and most, if not all, of the tailed beasts seem like they can decimate villages at will.

[BRP]

I think you are giving too much credit to Deidara. I am sure he could physically do it, but could only manage it if the village was very incompetent.

Tailed beasts are pretty overpowered, but they are basically forces of nature and have no politics.

Someone like Pain can just walk into a village and destroy it. Konoha is like the strongest village too. It also seems like if it wasn't Pain, it could just be a handful of skillful ninjas. That eradicates the whole purpose of living in a town like that. Such settlements would never have developed if they were that easy to destroy.

[nivlakian]

Do you mean Pain (and his bodies) walking into a village and causing havoc without using his Shinra Tensei technique? If that is the case, then yes he seems like he is the only one who can (if having 6 bodies isn't considered cheating and excluding filler/movie villains).


However, if you were referring to walking in with the immediate intent of just blowing everything away, then it seems to me that Deidara is also capable of doing the same by simply flying over a village and dropping his largest bomb on it.


Edit: To add, it does seem like a handful of skillful ninjas could take down villages and that sort of group seems to be what Akatsuki is except they force themselves to work in teams of 2.

[Eaglestrike]

The Kyuubi, the assumed strongest of the demons attacked a village and got life in prison for it. I believe the concept is that while you may have people capable of destroying villages, each village does so, meaning that if you go to destroy another village there should be a chance for you to die.

[CrimsonAngel]

The akatsuki dont seem strong at all, just cowards and muscle heads.

I mean any time the fight they just runaway after few blows...

or is it jus me?

[AkashiXI]

However, if you were referring to walking in with the immediate intent of just blowing everything away, then it seems to me that Deidara is also capable of doing the same by simply flying over a village and dropping his largest bomb on it.

That's very true, but you're missing one important word out of BRP's side: incompetence. Any "smart" ninja -like Kakashi, the sennin, etc- can sense something so malicious coming. Don't forget that anything THAT big requires an extreme amount of Chakra, which most towns have specialist that can either sense chakra, or have just plain ol' strong people who can feel something with "murderous intent" coming. And... this is just a manga. Obviously they never want to make a situation where somebody waltz in, destroys an entire town/country, and has zero resistance. <_<

[nivlakian]

That's very true, but you're missing one important word out of BRP's side: incompetence. Any "smart" ninja -like Kakashi, the sennin, etc- can sense something so malicious coming. Don't forget that anything THAT big requires an extreme amount of Chakra, which most towns have specialist that can either sense chakra, or have just plain ol' strong people who can feel something with "murderous intent" coming.

True enough they can sense it while it's being performed, but even after sensing it, what can be done then? Only Kakashi could Mangekyou it or the person performing the technique away. You need people with techniques that can reach him before his technique is completed.

I'm just trying to get a feel for what BRP means by "walking in and destroying a village."

Are we talking about that one Pain walking in and immediately using Shinra Tensei? If so, are you then implying no one would be able to stop him before the technique is used whereas with Deidara there is potentially time to stop him?

Are we talking about Pain walking in with several bodies and just wreaking havoc without use of Shinra Tensei? Edit: If this is what you meant, then I agree that he is the only one able to do it "alone". However, like BRP said before, it also seems a small group of skillful ninja should be capable of the same.

[Zilla]

The akatsuki dont seem strong at all, just cowards and muscle heads.

I mean any time the fight they just runaway after few blows...

or is it jus me?

How can you say that Akatsuki isnt strong. These are some bad ass ninjas. Its not like any low tier ninjas have killed any of them. And they never have run away from a fight. Only time i recall was when itaachi basically kicked Kakashi ass and was tired and had to withdraw.

[The_OG_Nelta]

and another time when Hidan and Kakuzu ran, they had too because Pein told them too D:

[Zilla]

Yea lol. If they would have stayed it would be alot more dead ninjas!

[Parshias]

How can you say that Akatsuki isnt strong. These are some bad ass ninjas. Its not like any low tier ninjas have killed any of them. And they never have run away from a fight. Only time i recall was when itaachi basically kicked Kakashi ass and was tired and had to withdraw.

Itachi and Kisame got the fuck out of dodge when Jiraiya showed up.

[Kiro]

That's Jiraiya though. You can't compare him to anyone else besides the higher-ups in Akatsuki.

[Zilla]

And before they left Itaachi one again beat the shit out of Sasuke. And even Itaachi knew he was no match for the Jman.

[Draggy]

I liked Itachi =(



Mostly for beating the shit of of Sasuke