Naruto

[Parshias]

I think its fucking hilarious people are always bitching about Naruto only using a few techniques when every character in the entire manga only uses a few techniques. I mean, Kakashi is supposed to be a super copy ninja but I don't think he's used more than about six techniques with any kind of regularity. Even Sasuke is just Sharingan, Fire/More Different Fire, Chidori/More Different Chidori.

[Maguspk]

I think everybody needs to remember a few important things. Jiraiya fought all 6 bodies at full power and had an inferior sage mode. Naruto is cleaning up the 6 bodies with no chakra in them. Remember, all the chakra is focused in God Realm at the moment and he isn't doing anything, he's sitting back watching what Naruto can do. Also, bear in mind that God Realm is not the real Pein, there is still the main body at a remote location defended by Konan at the moment. What we're seeing in Naruto doing really well just plowing through the chakra-less Pein bodies. That isn't to take away from the significance, I'm just putting things in perspective.

[Vajra]

I think everybody needs to remember a few important things. Jiraiya fought all 6 bodies at full power and had an inferior sage mode. Naruto is cleaning up the 6 bodies with no chakra in them. Remember, all the chakra is focused in God Realm at the moment and he isn't doing anything, he's sitting back watching what Naruto can do. Also, bear in mind that God Realm is not the real Pein, there is still the main body at a remote location defended by Konan at the moment. What we're seeing in Naruto doing really well just plowing through the chakra-less Pein bodies. That isn't to take away from the significance, I'm just putting things in perspective.

Where does it say they are chakraless, the summoning body of pain woudln't be able to summon THREE beasts without chakra(summoning requires a LARGE amount of chakra remember)...Also pain only deactivated them when he was using Chou Shinra Tensei >.>..they're all recovered now, but he main body seems to still be recovering.

[Tokitoki]

Especially summoning three beats that large.

About the Sasuke chidori thing. He says its a bigger scale than a humans can contain with their chakra or nature manipulation (sage mode?), but Naruto also has the Kyuubi chakra to fall back on. I still think Naruto has a small advantage.

[Kiro]

Sage Mode is earth based isn't it? Wtf is a massive lightning attack gonna do to Naruto besides get completely cancelled out? Earth > Lightning.

And no, you can't use the Sasuke v Gaara fight where he pierced the shell with his Chidori as an example.

[Tokitoki]

I wouldnt go so far as to say itll just be canceled out

[Lebzile]

You got to remember that Naruto is also Wind based, and Lightning > Wind iirc.

[Chelly]

nah u got it backwards fire > wind
wind > lightning

gonna find the chapter where yamato explains it to naruto

[Draggy]

ya its

Water > Fire > Wind > Lightning > Earth

edit: yah found it, Ch333
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p...cakes/12-1.jpg

[Parshias]

Wind > Lightning > Earth

This isn't Pokemon.

[Lebzile]

Oh, I see, still. Sounds better that Lightning would be better then Wind imo. >_>

[Chelly]

here we go Naruto 333 page 12 | One Manga
also on page 13 theres more

edit: meh previous posts explain it

[Yangsing]

lol people so stressed over a manga chapter

[Xno Kappa]

Who exactly is stressed? lol

[Maguspk]

Where does it say they are chakraless, the summoning body of pain woudln't be able to summon THREE beasts without chakra(summoning requires a LARGE amount of chakra remember)...Also pain only deactivated them when he was using Chou Shinra Tensei >.>..they're all recovered now, but he main body seems to still be recovering.

Naruto 430 page 14 | One Manga

Yes, they are all working with limited chakra. I don't care if they summoned some huge shit that doesn't mean they all have full chakra especially when just pages ago it is stated that chakra is being focused into God realm. What's happening here is Naruto is just plowing through some weakened bodies while God Realm recovers as much as possible. Even Konan states that doing this has "better results" at the cost of risk, so it isn't safe to put it past Pein that he is strategically allowing Naruto to fight in order to see what he's up against and recover chakra in God Realm. I'm sure once Naruto comes into contact with God Realm or God Realm joins in things will be more even.

inb4 NO NARUTO IZ STRONGER NAO OK!? Take off the badass goggles for a second and just look at things from what we've been told. Sure he's got some cool new shit, but based on what's been said and how God Realm is totally calm, it's safe to say there is something planned, even if it's a retreat.

[Kiro]

Srsly, we're just comparing Naruto to Sasuke.

Sasuke is fast. But so is Naruto apparently.

Sasuke isn't very strong. Naruto is balls-to-the-wall strong.

Sasuke is a genius tactician. Naruto has pulled some decent stuff before, but nowhere near Sasuke.

Chakra control? Think it's Sasuke on that one.

Chakra amount? Duh.

Jutsu/Ninjutsu/Genjutsu variety? Sasuke.

Martial arts skill? I dunno honestly, Naruto tends to get up close and personal mostly, so he should be pretty damn good at hand-to-hand. But lolz @ going melee against a Sharingan. Sasuke on that one too!

Anything else? Can't think of much else to compare between the two.

[Tokitoki]

I think the nature chakra from the Frog Kata will throw off the Sharingan for a while.

Edit:
Also, He may not be nervous at all because he isnt even the real body. Pein is recovering somewhere and these bodies can just be used as tools. Im sure the real one will put up much more of a fight, but that doesnt mean that these bodies are weak. How many ninja do you think would be able to dispose of these guys so easily?

[Maguspk]

I think the nature chakra from the Frog Kata will throw off the Sharingan for a while.

Edit:
Also, He may not be nervous at all because he isnt even the real body. Pein is recovering somewhere and these bodies can just be used as tools. Im sure the real one will put up much more of a fight, but that doesnt mean that these bodies are weak. How many ninja do you think would be able to dispose of these guys so easily?

Nobody said they were weak, but people are acting as if Naruto is suddenly miles ahead of Jiraiya and dispatching of Pein seemingly effortlessly.

[Kiro]

Naruto seems pretty damn far ahead of Jiraiya, lol. That's just my opinion though.

[Tokitoki]

Well I think its possible that Naruto is further ahead of Jiraiya than you may think. Throughout the sage training session pa frog has been saying that hes picking it up quickly, and he could be the one, and all that jazz.

Heres just one example...
Naruto 418 page 05 | One Manga

And thats when he JUST got into sage mode.