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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiro View Post
    Am I being wooshed or something? If Naruto is about to die, why wouldn't the Kyuubi give him more chakra to stay alive and finish the fight? If Naruto dies, the Kyuubi dies.




    Nine-Tailed Demon Fox - Narutopedia, the Naruto Wiki

    Can't believe I had to look that shit up, I don't take this manga that seriously. dkfdjsjfjlfffff
    Isn't it common sense >.>

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    So from a Ninja world point of view, they are kept and not killed because they are a military advantage, like nukes in our modern world.

    From the Nine tails view, he is simply bluffing, which although it seems out of character, would be the only explanation given the fact that if he dies the fox also dies.

    Oh well, guess it's as simple as that then, yeah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_OG_Nelta View Post
    I think the Kyuubi has said it himself as well, its pretty much why when Naruto is about to die, some funky demon energy is leaked out.
    (To Naruto) "(Laughs) Well, I suppose I can't kill you, can I? After all, you die, I die. Your courage is most impressive, little boy... Very well, as a reward for making it this far, I will loan you my chakra!"
    Yeah he did.

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    Naruto 450 page 16 | One Manga

    Naruto 450 page 17 | One Manga

    Now we all remember these two pages, it's obvious that Danzo used his Unnamed Mind-controlling Dōjutsu on them so that he'd become the "Acting Hokage" until Inaguration occurs.

    The people at the Kage meeting found out that he was using his technique to control Mifune into making him the leader of the Kage Alliance thanks to Ao's Byukgan, so hopefully they are able to report it to the leaf village, so that they know that he was controlling the council at the village when they were deciding that Kakashi was suppose to be the 6th Hokage (see links above).

    Info on Danzo's Jutsu:

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    Unnamed Mind-controlling Dōjutsu

    * Name: Unnamed
    * Type: Kekkei genkai, No rank, Supplementary
    * Users: Shisui Uchiha, Danzō
    * Debut (Manga): Chapter 459

    Apparently unique to Shisui Uchiha, this technique allows the user to control the mind of their opponent. It was a dōjutsu of the highest class, as the victim doesn't even realise they are being manipulated.

    Danzō gained access to this dōjutsu by implanting Shisui's Sharingan into his right eye-socket. He subsequently used it to manipulate Mifune into almost giving him the supreme command of the alliance of the Five Villages. When this is discovered, Danzo responds that he cannot use the ability multiple times a day.

    It also seems that unlike a number of other Sharingan related techniques
    , it doesn't require direct eye contact, as Danzō never removed the bandages that hid it from view.
    So yeah it's obvious that he used it at both the Village Council Meeting, and it's proven (by Ao) that he was using it at the Kage Meeting (on Mifune). Hell, who knows how many other times he's used this ability.

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    I keep reading the manga and forgetting the anime came out the same day. Awesome episode though, Deidara's death was pretty cool in anime form.

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    I wonder if Ino or Ino's Dad would be able to tell if Danzou was doing this if they were there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiro View Post
    I wonder if Ino or Ino's Dad would be able to tell if Danzou was doing this if they were there.
    Ino!? Being not useless?

    pfft.

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    I doubt it. Don't their abilities only work if they're able to use some sort of jutsu on the target? Ino's anyway, maybe her dad can do it without being detected, but I think they're more along the lines of interrogators with their jutsu than they are mind-readers... if that makes sense.

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    I was just reading back on Sasuke v Deidara, and I found it funny how Madara was calling Deidara "senpai". I guess teaching yourself how to break out of the sharingan is a big deal, even to Madara.

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    Madara called Deiderai Senpai, because he was "roleplaying" a new recruit that ws in deidera group.

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    Yea. "Tobi" was just supposed to be a bumbling idiot who barely got into the organization.

    This whole Yin and Yang thing is an interesting theory but the big question is, if this is true, "When the hell did it happen?" Sasuke was just a normal emo kid growing up depite being more gifted at ninja stuff than other kids.

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    Psh fine, ruin it for me.

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    If it makes you feel better, a normal ninja teaching himself to see through the sharingan really is a big deal.

    And that was a good point brought up about Danzo most likely using his sharingan technique to "sway" the council when deciding on an interim hokage. I hadn't thought of that when his sharingan ability was outted, but it seems very likely that Danzo manipulated them by using it.

    Makes you wonder, though, why he didn't use the ability sooner... like after the 3rd was killed, for example.

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    Because Danzo was probably still getting things in Root set up or he wasn't made up yet.

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    I think opinion was pretty strong for Jiraiya at first, but since he didn't want it, it fell upon Tsunade. I guess compared to Kakashi, the reputation of a Sannin was worth more. Plus Konoha wasn't nearly as in bad shape after Orochimaru attacked compared to Pain.

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    wouldve been funny to see Big J as hokage

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    I'm reminded of Mustang declaring all women in the military would wear mini-skirts...

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    I'll edit this post with the rest of the spoilers, but you can find them on MangaHelpers.

    edit: And now to post the rest:
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    Here's a quick translation for those interested:

    Raikage VS Sasuke

    *Raikage charges in

    Suigetsu: “He’s fast!”

    *Raikage, covered in his raiton chakra, punches Juugo.


    *Juugo stops the punch.

    Chapter 462: Sasuke’s Ninja Way…!!

    *C seems to be trying to track Karin (probably the same way she does others)?

    *Suigetsu tries to cut C down.

    *But is stopped by Darui’s sword swing

    Suigetsu: “Hey you have a nice one there (talking about Darui’s sword). But just because mine broke that doesn’t mean I’ll give it away.”

    *Raikage’s punch leaves a big dent in Juugo

    Raikage: “That’s one rodent down”

    *Sasuke tries to use his Sharingan ~~~
    Raikage: Don’t think I can be caught by the Sharingan.

    C (thinking): “Raikage-sama’s synaptic response and his reflex speed rival (*on par with*) that of the Yellow Flash. These guys are keeping up pretty well, but as long as he has the raiton chakra surrounding him to help jump start his reflexes not even the Sharingan will be able to keep up. On top of that he still…”
    *
    Juugo, while continuing to take punches, seems to split himself? “Haaa haaa haa. Die!!

    Darui: !?

    C (thinking): “From zero distance”

    *Juugo hits Raikage


    Darui: “Dammit”

    C (thinking): Did he do it!? What!? You mean he took one of Raikage-sama’s attacks and lived!?

    C: !?

    *Sasuke appears in front of C

    *And a shadow that looks kinda like the Kyuubi envelops C

    C (thinking): “I…Is this…genjutsu…These guys sure know how to use their friends attacks as feints! What I can do right now is….dammit! My body won’t move…”

    *C collapses

    *Sasuke holds his left eye

    *Darui, as he fights with Suigetsu: “C! What are you lying around for! Get up!”

    Juugo: Haa haa ha I killed him! I killed him good! So who’s next!!?

    *Karin, while still looking on from the shadows thinking: “Hey, Juugo actually managed to be useful! Now I won’t be found out. It’s time to search for Danzou while I still can…”

    Karin (thinking): “!!Wha!!?

    *Juugo gets hit by Raikage’s clothesline!!

    *The scene changes to Naruto


    *Naruto, banging against the wood bars: “That’s a lie…!! You’re full of it.

    Yamato: “That couldn’t be…”

    Tobi: “If you’re talking about Sasuke then you can’t help but mention Itachi.”

    Kakashi: “Cut the jokes…I can’t very well believe your story (*about the murder of the Uchiha*)”

    Tobi: “Nope…it’s no lie. That’s the truth about Itachi (*The murder of the Uchiha was done under the orders of the higher ups in Konoha*). He died for Sasuke’s sake as well as for Konoha’s sake.”

    Kakashi: “How could that be? Even if that were the truth, if Sasuke knew about it then do you really think he would help Akatsuki!? He would have carried on Itachi’s will and returned to Konoha.”

    Tobi: “Hmph…You guys, being Sasuke’s teachers and friends, thought you understood Sasuke’s true feelings…but you were seriously mistaken…He’s a real-deal avenger!

    Naruto: Did you make him that way!?

    Tobi: “No…not me…”

    Naruto: “…!”

    Tobi: “Sasuke made the decision himself.”

    Yamato, Kakashi: “…!”


    Naruto: “That’s a lie!!!”


    Tobi: “I had to bet on it myself…Whether he would choose to carry on Itachi’s will…or whether he would choose revenge on Konoha…he chose revenge…his true feelings were that of our side. Sasuke’s goal now…is revenge on the Konoha that persecuted Uchiha clan and Itachi.”

    Naruto: Why…Why would he…why did it end up like this…!! Why would he turn to revenge…!?”


    Tobi: “…It can’t be helped…That’s the blood soaked fate of the Uchiha’s hatred. It’s like a curse from long ago that continues to this day."

    Naruto: “…Fate of their hatred…curse…!?”


    Tobi: “Yes…yes the curse of hatred that began long ago with the one called RikudouSennin, ancestor of the ninja.


    Kakashi: “RikudouSennin…that’s just a myth. The Rinnegan is just a freak mutation…”


    Tobi: “Even myths have some truth mixed in them…Back then the RikudouSennin theorized about the ninja way and sought out peace…but his time came while his dream was only half done…So he decided to leave the strength and the will of his ninja teachings to two children.”

    Tobi: “The older brother at birth was left with the Sennin’s “eyes”—chakra power and spiritual energy…and came to realize that strength is what is necessary to achieve peace.”

    Tobi: “The younger btorher at birth left with the Sennin’s “body”— willpower and physical energy… and came to realize that love is what is necessary to achieve peace.”

    Tobi: “When the Sennin was on his deathbed it came time to choose his successor…However, that decision would give birth to curse of hatred that continues to this day.”

    Naruto: “What do you mean?”

    Tobi: “The Sennin, believing that the younger brother who sought love would be more suitable as his successor than the older brother who sought strength, chose the younger brother. As the oldest and believing that he would naturally be the one to succeed the Sennin, the older brother could not accept the decision and…in his hatred brought war against his younger brother.”


    Tobi: “Time passed and as the bloodlines thinned the two brothers’ descendants continued their fighting. The older brother’s descendants came to be known as the Uchiha and the younger brother’s descendants the Senju.

    Tobi: “The fight between me, Uchiha Madara, and the First Hokage Senju Tobirama was also fate.”

    Tobi: “Even though this is only the second time I’ve met you (*talking to Naruto*), I can tell that you have the Senju’s will of fire in you.”

    Tobi: “Even now I can see the First Hokage in you. Even in death he lives on. My aspiration…my rival and the man I hated most.”

    Tobi: “The Senju and the Uchiha…The will of fire and hatred…Naruto and Sasuke…”

    *Juugo is basically pressed into the wall

    *Sasuke tries to cut Raikage from behind

    Tobi: “You two are likely the next two to have been chosen by fate.”

    *Sasuke tries to cut but can’t cut Raikage

    Tobi: “The Uchiha are a clan fated to seek revenge.”

    *Sasuke instantly distances himself from Raikage and begins making handseals

    Tobi: “Sasuke has taken all of the Uchiha’s anger on himself…and intends to crash that curse of hatred right into the world.”

    *Sasuke prepares his Chidori

    Tobi: “Hatred—his strongest weapon…his friend…and his strength.”

    *Sasuke charges at Raikage with his Chidori

    Tobi: “That (*Hatred*) is Sasuke’s ninja way.”

    *Possessed by hatred…Sasuke goes into his one-on-one fight!!

    End.


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    edit: posted a few min too late.

    I still have to wonder where in the world is KillerBee? Would be kind of awesome if he just showed up to save Raikage if it came to that.

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    or showed up to see him kill raikage, then vow to train naruto to "help"(kill) him.

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