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    Quote Originally Posted by Mots View Post
    Seriously? Just because Guy and Lee use Taijutsu doesnt mean they dont have chakra. In fact them opening their chakra gates would fuck them over completely. The way kisame is described so far makes him seem invincible to anyone that has chakra at all. Which is total bulllllllllshit.
    Don't forget Gai fought him before, and neither of them are dead btw, so it seems like Gai might know how to beat Kisame, Killerbee will have to figure it out. Gai said he fought him once, but during the fight vs 30% Kisame it took him a whilte to remember who Kisame was, and when they fought before.

    When Gai and Rock Lee use Strong Fist BTW, it's not the same as Sakura's Super Focus Chakra Human Strength. That's their regular hard training that allows them to fight. Using eight gates is automatic win, cause Kisame nor Samehada would be able to keep up with their speed. 8 Gates (past gate 5) is the same speed as Raikage and Minato's Cloak/Thunder God Jutsu's. Remember when Gai used Morning Peacock on 30% power Kisame? He couldn't even begin swinging his sword before Gai pushed him higher into the air. Rocklee using 5 gates on Garaa in part 1 was faster than Garaa's wind propelled Ultimate Defense and it's supposedly Sand Village's "Fastest Jutsu." (What other jutsu in the series gives anyone instantaneous defense vs. Explosions, Don't say Susanoo because Garaa's Ultimate Defense doesn't kill him like Susanoo kills an Uchiha).

    BTW there's an easy method to beating Kisame. If you think about it. He cant absorb that much chakra at one time. It might just take multiple Jinchuriki to take him down. Naruto could do it really though. All he has to do is toss a Rasenshuriken and have two Sage Mode Clones pin down Kisame from underground. Samehada will absorb the Rasenshuriken, and then Naruto can charge in ASAP and Frog Katas his Neck and SNAP DEAD! Kisame might be able to shortly survive having his chest blown away and rib cage exposed, but I doubt he could survive his neck getting insta-twisted even for a short while...unless he's a Zombie or something...

    Either that or, There has to be a quick follow up attack after Samehada starts to absorb Chakra really...it can't absorb two attacks at once I think??? Naruto fighting Kisame = automatic win really too, cause Samehada might not be able to absorb Natural Energy to begin with.

    And if it does some how absorb Natural Energy, that doesn't mean it'll know how to balance it and then it'll turn to stone and Kisame is a sitting duck. Instant Attacks like Amaterasu would probably work too, but depends on how instantaneously Samehada can absorb chakra!!!

    IF only Kakashi was there, he could use Kamui and warp Samehada into another area, and then he could easily whoop Kisame's ass...

    Anyone notice it's snowing where Kisame and Killerbee are fighting? They MUST be in the Land of Iron, and Raikage and his crew are looking for Killerbee. Mizukage and Choj will most likely find Ao too, I hope Ao lives. That Fuu is smart, but if he left the body too soon, then he's gonna die when he comes back and finds Ao alive. Maybe Mizukage will arrive just in time to burn away the tree branch and nagi with Lava jutsu, right as Fuu leaves Ao's body?!?!

    Hell man, Shikamaru could beat Kisame. If he was fighting him, he'd have the fight figured out before Kisame even exposed Samehada. He'd of figured out that the key to beating Kisame is separating the sword from the wielder from the moment Kisame told him it ate his chakra... Shikamaru fought Tayuya in part 1 and fought those ghost thingies and still avoided them (they ate his chakra once, and he realized what was occuring, and almost beat her man).

    Hell man, Shino could get Kisame in Secret Technique: Insect Sphere, and he would only be able to zap the chakra of the bugs, so then Shino would follow up by taking the time to make his bug clone (while being not seen), and plant some bugs in Kisame's shoes, and then while he's fighting Kisame will have bugs biting his feet, so he'll keep tripping, and eventually end up tripping into Shino's bug puddle of doom, which will eat off his face, which will make him blind, so he cant see where Samehada is, so then Shino can stab him with a Kunai repeatedly until he's sure he's dead, then encase Samehada in Bugs, and Carry it away to bury it somewhere, so Suigetsu will never find it MWAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Srlsy though, no wonder Suigetsu wants this crazy ass sword, but can he handle it oooooooo?!?!?!

    Hell man, Sakura could beat Kisame. If she learned the ability that Tsunade has that rewires someone's motor skills with electrical pulses, Kisame wouldn't be smart enough (in medical ninjutsu) like Kabuto was to figure out which movement will move his arms and such. It's called Improtant Body Points Disturbance.

    Kisame is really just like Yakkon from DBZ though, but he's not being used to resurrect any enemy though, it's the other way around, his sword is being used to make his Stamina unlimited. All Killerbee needs to do is strategically overload Kisame's Chakra with simultaneous JUTSU!!!

    Also wtf man, Is Samehada like indestructable?!?!? Can't a physical taijutsu just break it in half??!?!? Maybe the key to beating Kisame really is to not use Ninjutsu, Taijutsu, but GENJUTSU!!!

    Maybe someone can create a paper bomb trap for him, since when people attack him and damage him severely, they get their chakra zapped by Samehada at the same time anyways, and he'll use the zapped chakra to heal himself...while his opponent gets weaker...If he gets hit with a paper bomb trap, the Samehada wouldn't be able to absorb the explosion, because it's not chakra, Kisame would get blown to bits.

    OR HOW BOUT THE EASIEST OBSERVATION!?!? SOMEONE CUT OFF KISAME's ARMS!!!
    If someone can do a Jutsu to cut off both his arms, he'll not be able to touch the Samehada to regenerate himself. Plus if he has no arms, he wont be able to use JUTSU!!! Killerbee was able to blow away his chest with Lariat, but that's only because it's the same move he used vs Sasuke (and it had the same effect that time by blowing away Sasuke's chest too). So I say, in conclusion, cut off Kisame's Arms some how, or legs, then prevent him from even getting close to the sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vajra View Post
    If someone can do a Jutsu to cut off both his arms, he'll not be able to touch the Samehada to regenerate himself. Plus if he has no arms, he wont be able to use JUTSU!!! Killerbee was able to blow away his chest with Lariat, but that's only because it's the same move he used vs Sasuke (and it had the same effect that time by blowing away Sasuke's chest too). So I say, in conclusion, cut off Kisame's Arms some how, or legs, then prevent him from even getting close to the sword.
    Does he need his arms to fuse with his sword?

    I'm disappointed with the whole sword fusion thing, he looks silly as a shark-monster-thing. Has Kishi actually ever done an actual sword fight seems like he always gets out of doing one. I was starting to like Kisame, hope he lives to have a rematch with Gai otherwise I don't see Gai getting a real fight not many villains left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stilzkin View Post
    Does he need his arms to fuse with his sword?

    I'm disappointed with the whole sword fusion thing, he looks silly as a shark-monster-thing. Has Kishi actually ever done an actual sword fight seems like he always gets out of doing one. I was starting to like Kisame, hope he lives to have a rematch with Gai otherwise I don't see Gai getting a real fight not many villains left.
    That or the only sword fight he wants is to be between Naruto and Sasuke.

    /rimshot

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    So I'm thinking...Vajra needs to take like a month away from Naruto. Between his sex theories and what is probably the most text in one post in this huge thread over the last few days, I think he's a bit overboard with the series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike View Post
    So I'm thinking...Vajra needs to take like a month away from Naruto. Between his sex theories and what is probably the most text in one post in this huge thread over the last few days, I think he's a bit overboard with the series.
    I don't see this as any change from his normal behaviour?

    As for the manga, it's a shame Kisame turned into that shark thing - it doesn't seem to fit with the rest of the Naruto world. Still, as long as one of them wins outright i'll be happy, unless that leads to a rescue Bee arc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elondir View Post
    I don't see this as any change from his normal behaviour?

    As for the manga, it's a shame Kisame turned into that shark thing - it doesn't seem to fit with the rest of the Naruto world. Still, as long as one of them wins outright i'll be happy, unless that leads to a rescue Bee arc...
    I was pretty shocked when I saw this, cause I had no clue it was a Human Puppet Til he was revealed by taking off his Cloak. Also I had no clue it was hunched over like that in it's cloak, it's definitly the atlleast Pain body if it were to stand up straight.



    This is scary too though, I hope Killerbee finds a way to diffuse Samehada from Kisame...


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    You're all forgetting the very easy way Naruto beat the Pain model that also absorbed chakra. Natural chakra turns you into a toad statue if you aren't a Sage.
    edit: fixed for correctness (it is a toad statue), and @ blackrose I was just using sage as shorthand for someone who has learned to "balance and manipulate it properly"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furoris View Post
    You're all forgetting the very easy way Naruto beat the Pain model that also absorbed chakra. Natural chakra turns you into a frog if you cannot balance and manipulate it properly.
    Fixed.

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    Which for all we know, a chakra-absorbing sword might be able to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaglestrike View Post
    Which for all we know, a chakra-absorbing sword might be able to do.
    I doubt that, if it could Kisame wouldn't need an opponent to scale to, and could just collect chakra on his own

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckwin View Post
    kisame is fucking cool. I like this fight.
    Kisame has been my favorite enemy that this manga has ever introduced. The last chapter just solidified it.

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    A shame Kisame's gonna get butchered in a fish shop. Dude's toast. He lost his Akatsuki cloak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama View Post
    A shame Kisame's gonna get butchered in a fish shop. Dude's toast. He lost his Akatsuki cloak.
    That's ok, Suigetsu will most likely get his sword afterwards. >.>

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    So I keep interpreting the sound samehada is making in my head when I read it's text, and it's really really annoying and I'm 100% sure that its the sound it's going to make in the anime... I'LL HAVE TO SKIP THIS FIGHT

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    Spoiler: show
    Kishi pulls a Kubo and naruto senses 2 great chakras clashing and Hiraishins to the scene to save the day
    Spoiler: show
    yeah, prob not

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    Looks like no anime this week. Next week will be a double episode with the beginning of the fight.

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    As much as I want to see another Lee or Gai fight I doubt we will see one unless they fight Kisame or the Killerbee's brother rages and goes back on his word and goes after Konoha.

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