Naruto

**Vaspinne** · 2009-11-19 14:00

Originally Posted by Vajra

Those pages don't state anything, all we know is that Rinenngan is the ultimate eye technique, everyone knows that, even the Infinite Tsukuyomi is just a Rinnengan with 9 Tomoe man, gtfo with this Sharingan > Everything bullshit. It goes Rinnengan > Byakkugan > Shargingan.

Did you not read the pages I posted? It's clearly stating that the Rikudo Sage passed on his Rinnegan eyes to the Elder Boy, whose descendants became known as the Uchiha. What does that tell you? And where did all this Sasuke/Sharingan > better than everything stuff come from? I never once said anything like that in my posts. All I said is that we have no idea where Byakugan came from, and that the Sharingan is just an evolved version of the Rinnegan. And I don't mean Evolved like a Pokemon evolves to become stronger, or Goku going SSJ, but Darwinism-style, like how Human's evolved from monkeys over the course of thousands of years.

And who gives a shit about Sasuke vs Pein? They never fought and never will, what does it matter? If everyone else understands what I'm trying to say, then I'll take that as a victory. I don't care about which is stronger, I'm just talking about their damn origins.

**Shuvo** · 2009-11-19 22:18

Good chapter, but I'm a bit disappointed Killerbee got defeated so easily, after the way he toyed with Sasuke & Co. Granted it was because he was trying to protect Ponta but.. the dude was a powerful ninja too, being able to have such a huge summoning.

Kisame never even seemed that powerful beforehand, admitting to Itachi that he (Kisame) was a lot weaker. Think the author is just hoping we forgot things that happened a few years ago in the original series, including the Byakkugan thing you guys are talking about.

**Eaglestrike** · 2009-11-20 00:26

Well, if Samehada can't protect Kisame from genjutsu and can't absorb amaretetsu and such, Itachi would probably win in a fight between Itachi and Kisame. That could be the basis of that statement. Itachi may also be better suited for taking people out because of his skills.

**orson** · 2009-11-20 00:39

Ya seems to me that Itachi would destroy Kisame.

**Maguspk** · 2009-11-20 02:02

I think you guys are forgetting Kisame is only as strong as he was shown because he fused with Samehada who had absorbed nearly all of the chakra of Killerbee and the Hachibi. It's not like he pulled the power out of his ass, Killerbee fed him. The statement that he is alot weaker than Itachi is probably simply true, no need to try to explain it away with 'Itachi cud probly genjutzu lol' or anything.

**Vajra** · 2009-11-20 02:54

With today's anime, I've come to realize that Madara's brother Izuna looks kinda like Sai.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a5/...na_Uchiha2.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a5/Vajra000/Sai.jpg

Sai's lips sometimes turns into Izuna's type of lips.

**Boyiee** · 2009-11-20 04:10

Fuck anime, why can't my hair grow like that.

**OzzofAsura** · 2009-11-20 05:09

Originally Posted by Boyiee

Fuck anime, why can't my hair grow like that.

WTF!? I was thinking that same thing like 20 minutes ago. Fucking New Jersey psychic mind-meld weirdness!

**Ratatapa** · 2009-11-20 08:58

Ok i might've missed a point, somewhere so feel free to correct me

In some story we hear that Madara only have 1 brother which became the first hockage.

While in Itachi story Madara only brother is Izuna

mmmm

**Jicent** · 2009-11-20 09:04

Originally Posted by Ratatapa

Ok i might've missed a point, somewhere so feel free to correct me

In some story we hear that Madara only have 1 brother which became the first hockage.

While in Itachi story Madara only brother is Izuna

mmmm

wat?

**Ratatapa** · 2009-11-20 09:07

ok let me try to find it back

**promethius** · 2009-11-20 10:45

madara's story was the first uchiha ever, while itachi's story was of madara who is not the founding member just the first to obtain mangekyo and lead the whole clan, which had a history of fighting/killing each other to obtain strength as you saw when him and his brother killed the other two members to gain mangekyo.

**Draggy** · 2009-11-20 11:12

Izuna is Madara's brother.

You are thinking of Senju Hashirama, Madara's rival, who founded the village with him and who became the first Hokage.

**gandorf** · 2009-11-20 11:17

The two sons of the sage were the uchiha's and first hokages clan. Madara and the first were never brothers. They came years(maybe a few hundreds of years) after the descendants. The first's clans and uchiha's are rivals since the sage picked one son over the other. The first could control the tailed beasts and uchiha's can control the kyubi. They all had the same ancestor at one time but each clan took its own course.

**ravbane** · 2009-11-20 11:27

and Draggy delivers with another sig.

**Ratatapa** · 2009-11-20 11:30

i see so yeah i misunderstood

thx

**Tetrarien** · 2009-11-20 12:55

Anime has been all shades of awesome lately now that we're getting into the epic fights. And I defintely lol'd when Itachi just suddenly turned batshit insane. Great to see that animated.

Manga, I have no problem with Bee losing so soundly. I see him as defintely stronger than Kisame, it's just that his fighting style leaves him wide-open for chakra-stealing.

**Marcicus** · 2009-11-20 13:02

going to qq something fierce when Itachi dies from ninja AIDS in the anime.

**Draggy** · 2009-11-20 13:25

At least when he dies he gets to eat sweets and play with kiddie Zanpaktou (he voices Ukitake lol)

**Ratatapa** · 2009-11-20 13:48

They do ressemble a little

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