Naruto

[Ayn]

Should've just named Danzo's chapter "Hokage for a day"

As for Sasuke being trained by Snakeboy to be a killer, until the more recent raid on the Kage summit, Sasuke strictly stayed AWAY from killing any of his targets, no? Even Orochimaru commented on it in one chapter how he dispatched a ton of enemies without actually killing them. And in one episode he specifically ordered Suigetsu not to do it (when they were retrieving the Kubikiri Hocho).

Of course after the whole "MY BROTHER REALLY LOVED ME" mess he just kinda snapped, but hey.

Also, what's this devastating attack Kiba has?

[Zeb]

Not that I think Sakura and Sasuke are even going to fight, but to weigh in on the debate, I think Sasgay would whoop her ass. Speed > Strenth. I think the only new abilities Kishi could give Sakura would be her being able to fuck with chakra points. Fighting against Sasori's puppets, she never would have used that ability, but anything else like elemental ninjutsu or some other attacks she would have.

And really, some of the Konoha 12 need some elemental ninjutsu.

[Maguspk]

They are going to meet Madara and Sasuke, Naruto will get back to Konoha, find out what's going on, want to leave, get the usual 'you can't go!' and then somehow it will all come down to some characters dieing and a Naruto/Sasuke confrontation. Sasuke will barely win with Madara's help but Naruto will almost beat Sasuke forcing them to retreat instead of totally annihilating Konoha. Afterwards, Madara does an Aizen-esque just as planned, pulls some hax shit and the ninjas have 1 year until Madara organizes the World Ninja Tournament. Naruto will take Konohamaru into the Hyperbolic Ninja Shack and train him knowing he doesn't have the potential to defeat Madara on his own. Naruto will forfeit halfway through the fight and tell Konohamaru it's his turn. Konohamaru won't get serious until that kid with the runny nose and the girl he's always hanging out with die. After they die Konohamaru unlocks the 3rd's will and becomes a Super Ninja 2 and defeats Madara with a rasengan which rivals Jiraiya's.

[BadKarma]

Wow, so, I uhh, just felt bad for Danzo.

[Akiyama]

Can't believe that cock Saucegay killed Karin like that. I knew he was a cockmongler. D:

[Ragnus]

Now that I've had some time to think about the chapter more, I kinda feel a little bad for Danzo but he was a douche. I'm honestly surprised but I feel really bad for Karin despite being mostly useless. Her reaction to getting utterly betrayed and discarded was pretty strong right before she slumped over dead.

[Eaglestrike]

Can't believe that cock Saucegay killed Karin like that. I knew he was a cockmongler. D:

I hardly even watch the anime and Karin annoys the fuck out of me in it. So I'm glad she's gone based on that.

[Kurp]

Maybe Madara will get rid of that stupid mask after he plucks that eye. Or, maybe Sasuke will take it instead and implant it in his forehead. Cover that shit up with his protector like Hiei.

[Ayn]

Sharinjagan go.

[ronin sparthos]

Hell, even though Sakura would get her ass kicked id like to see her 1v1 Sasuke just for the fuck of it not to mention it'd be great after Karins demise and all. Just landing one blow on him would make the entire endeavor a success imo, a 'fuck you' moment delivered from Sakura to Sasuke for all the emotions shes felt for the better part of the entire series.

After that, someone can rescue her or they can both just retreat for the time being. Id liken it to those episodes of DBZ where Piccolo would take on the major villain even though he was out of league (17, Cell, Buu etc), get some information, show off some fighting skills and get the fuck outta there.

[Serif]

ROCK LEE vs Sasuke bitches

[BadKarma]

ROCK LEE vs Sasuke bitches

Well Rock Lee is the fastest ninjar so.

[Vajra]

I was surprised when i found out that KIBA of all people had one of the top 3 most outright damaging attacks in the series.

Excuse me, but where does it say Kiba is this strong >.>? I don't remember reading this anywhere, unless you're talking about his Double Headed Wolf which leads to his Duel Wolf Fang (which dented a Rashomon Gate and cut Sakon and Ukonin half)? Then there's the "Whirlwind Wolf Fang (Senpū Rōga)" which is an unused jutsu that he has, and but it's listed in the Third Databook on pages 20-21?

According to the third Naruto databook, Kiba learns how to use the Whirlwind Wolf Fang (Senpū Rōga) between Part I and Part II. Other than giving him the power to protect someone he cares about, it is unknown what it does or even if it is a weapon or a jutsu.

I don't remember Kishimoto saying Kiba has one of the top 3 moves though cause the newest list from Fanbook 2 (made by Kishimoto) ranks Sage Mode, and Chibaku Tensei, Rasenshuriken, Kirin and Amaterasu and those moves up there.

[Weltall]

Yeah, I pretty much thought the Kiba comment was total trash too when I read it..lol.

[Sunrider]

Just landing one blow on him would make the entire endeavor a success imo,

I should say so, since a successful connect should, by rights, pulverize anyone into a fine red paste. If she lands a hit on Sasuke, it's over.

Which, unfortunately, is probably why it won't happen.

[Tetrarien]

Not sure I'm really understanding the hatred for Danzo's role in the manga.

I mean, my only minor complaint would be not seeing a Konoha led by a man who favors violence over diplomancy. But that's just personal preference since I thought it'd be an interesting contrast to the usual peaceful vibe of the village.

But it's not like Danzo did nothing at all before his death. He managed to get voted in as Hokage. And then pulled off a ballsy move by attempting to manipulate the kage meeting so that he would be made the leader of the alliance. Just because some guard with a byakugan happened to see through what he was doing doesn't mean Danzo did nothing during his time in the manga.

We knew all that we needed to know about Danzo. He's been behind the scenes all the time, trying to manipulate his way to the Hokage position. And while he's a douche, all of his actions were made with the good of the village in mind. But we knew eventually he'd get what was coming to him, because he had a major hand in the Uchiha massacre. What else did we really need to know of him or have him accomplish? It's not like you have to "hate" him on the same level as an Aizen... Danzo isn't even close to being a "main" bad guy.

And the fight seemed epic enough to me.

As for Sasuke being trained by Snakeboy to be a killer, until the more recent raid on the Kage summit, Sasuke strictly stayed AWAY from killing any of his targets, no? Even Orochimaru commented on it in one chapter how he dispatched a ton of enemies without actually killing them. And in one episode he specifically ordered Suigetsu not to do it (when they were retrieving the Kubikiri Hocho).

True, but it was still training in how to kill. Though Sasuke refused to kill at the time, Oro trained him in how to do it well. Just that now Sasuke has the resolve and mindset to kill with no remorse.

[Xno Kappa]

Danzo sucked because his presence was unnecessary and added absolutely nothing to the overall story-line besides Sasuke becoming "evil" which was inevitable to begin with. He's already a footnote to the Naruto universe with his death. In my opinion he was nothing more then a filler villain for the manga.

[Lucavi]

Not sure I'm really understanding the hatred for Danzo's role in the manga.

I mean, my only minor complaint would be not seeing a Konoha led by a man who favors violence over diplomancy. But that's just personal preference since I thought it'd be an interesting contrast to the usual peaceful vibe of the village.

But it's not like Danzo did nothing at all before his death. He managed to get voted in as Hokage. And then pulled off a ballsy move by attempting to manipulate the kage meeting so that he would be made the leader of the alliance. Just because some guard with a byakugan happened to see through what he was doing doesn't mean Danzo did nothing during his time in the manga.

We knew all that we needed to know about Danzo. He's been behind the scenes all the time, trying to manipulate his way to the Hokage position. And while he's a douche, all of his actions were made with the good of the village in mind. But we knew eventually he'd get what was coming to him, because he had a major hand in the Uchiha massacre. What else did we really need to know of him or have him accomplish? It's not like you have to "hate" him on the same level as an Aizen... Danzo isn't even close to being a "main" bad guy.

And the fight seemed epic enough to me.



True, but it was still training in how to kill. Though Sasuke refused to kill at the time, Oro trained him in how to do it well. Just that now Sasuke has the resolve and mindset to kill with no remorse.

Its implied that he used Shisui's eye to manipulate himself into being anointed hokage as well. As a lot of people said: it isn't what he wanted to do, its how he went about doing it.

Not only did he not support the village during the first konoha invasion, but it was implied that he even had a partnership with Orochimaru that was broken once Oro expressed his desire to destroy the village.

He arguably had one of the largest parts in turning Nagato into Pein as he partnered with another paranoid warmonger simply to snuff out what he considered unnecessary competition in the area. Who knows how the ninja world would have evolved if Nagato's peace-keeping volunteer force would have flourished. Again, Danzou showed that he was willing to do whatever he felt needed to be done to ensure that only "his" view of a successful ninja world was realized.

He also turned the other cheek during the Pein invasion, and refused to allow any root to protect Konoha. These are members that could have had their wife and kids getting killed during that attack (though Kishi would never think far enough into his manga to have some root rebel against Danzou because of his harsh methods), but Danzou said no go.

He was a fatalist and a Machiavellian character has been done to death in all forms of media. Sasuke proved to him that it doesn't matter how good your intentions are if you step over people and outright crush others to get what you want. He used Itachi to further his own ideals, and paid for it with his life.

Yeah, I hated the fight, too - Sasuke can apparently bitch the entire Konoha high council without any problems (serious problems -- getting knocked out and healed later isn't a problem) if he could squash Danzou like that.

[Tetrarien]

See, that description of Danzo basically reinforces what I was saying. I'm not questioning hating Danzo for what he's done... I'm questioning hating Danzo because he was a "waste of time" or "waste of a character." Hirokei saying that his presence was unnecessary and added nothing is just wrong IMO, since it can be argued that Danzo is the reason why shit's currently hitting the fan.

If not for his early actions (for the good of the village, in his mind), we almost certainly wouldn't have had Nagato go evil. And Sasuke wouldn't be in the position he's in now, since the Uchiha massacre would most likely not have happened. No massacre means Itachi doesn't have to go all double-agent, and Sasuke doesn't become all emo. Ultimately Danzo is the guy that set a lot of things into motion, so I definitely wouldn't call him a waste of time.

[Ayn]

True, but it was still training in how to kill. Though Sasuke refused to kill at the time, Oro trained him in how to do it well. Just that now Sasuke has the resolve and mindset to kill with no remorse.

Yeah.. I can buy that. The fact that he's able to kill so ruthlessly now was probably aided by Orochimaru's training. If he'd stayed in Konoha this entire time, THEN found it out, he might've had a harder time.

I'm curious to know what's going to happen with Jugo and Suigetsu now, though. I actually liked Sasuke's new group, kinda sucks that he ditched them and is being puppeted by Madara.