Naruto

[Mots]

Chapter really was great. I'm looking forward too the next. I wanna see some Sage-Fox Naruto fuck some shit up.

[Sunrider]

how about 9tail was the one that impregnate naruto's mom? Or was naruto's dad's sperms were coated in 9tail's energy?

Sounds like Rule 34 material.

[Xno Kappa]

Also, why the hell the 3rd Hokage/Jiraiya/Tsunade never mentions this point is what also confuses me. They go to great lengths explaining the heroics of Minato but fail to mention, "oh yeah and Kushina was the previous jinchuuriki!, that's kinda of a big deal." She was after all the 4th Hokage's lover, you would think that's something worth stating yet her names been mentioned maybe twice(?) in the whole manga. Where Madara falls into all this and how exactly was the kyuubi sealed into Naruto just goes even further into plot no jutsu terriroty.

The whole revelation just seems like something Kishi just made up for shock value sake. Some shit Kubo would do.

Aizen: "I never stated I DIDN'T know there was a previous jinchuuriki." /trollface.

[Eaglestrike]

Well, if Kushina was manipulated to cause the entire event, it's not something they'd want to tell Naruto as a child...

[Boyiee]

I honestly don't see whats so hard to grasp here or why this is questionable or how it's plotkai or whatever.

[Tits]

It's because certain readers are incapable of focusing on the story and demand explanations for that which is inconsequential. It's like the Bleach thread where they are arguing about the fucking consumption of food.

[Salodin]

No, I'm capable of doing things such as just sitting back and watching the story. But then there are some things that are so glaringly filled with a hole of some type that it just makes it impossible to ignore.

The MAIN CHARACTERS mother was the previous 9 tails host, which attacked the city that pretty much started the ENTIRE SERIES. Yet it isn't till years later that anything of the sort is even hinted at? Seriously? I try to turn a blind eye to a lot of things but god damn is shit like that annoying.

[Tits]

Guilty conscience much? No one called you out.

[arus2001]

Well, I'd imagine the 3rd's law to keep the kyuubi on the down low could've played into Kushina being kept a secret. Still, I would think Naruto would've asked about his parents at some point when growing up. Was he just loosely told they were killed during the attack or what? Were that the case, their names should've turned up on the little ninja memorials they have.

Thinking back on the earlier part of Kushina's story, was she a Konoha native? Might be confusing this with an early spoiler on the particular chapter, but if she moved in at a young age and got her nickname and such from there, it's possible nobody knew she had the kyuubi aside from those who tried to kidnap her (maybe she/fox was originally theirs to begin with). And along comes Madara...

[Parshias]

It was established a while ago that she was from another country. Hidden Whirlpool, I think.

[Sunrider]

Kushina is from the Land of Waves, yeah? It was Kumo that was trying to snatch her for her unique chakra.

Kushina, Hinata... man, it's a wonder Konoha hadn't gone to war with Kumo for all the kidnapping they like to do...

[Deadgye]

He could have simply entered the absurdly spacious minds of the manga. the pain fight showed that while possessed by the kyuubi the inner mind is still seperate and can generate chakra. So Minato walks in, Works with Kushina to seal it and so the story begins.

Hmm, didn't the 3rd put an edict strictly forbidding anyone to speak of the Kyuubi ?

Although it does lend even more credo to Naruto being shunned, since he share the surname of the previous host, rather than his father's.

This.

Also, why the hell the 3rd Hokage/Jiraiya/Tsunade never mentions this point is what also confuses me. They go to great lengths explaining the heroics of Minato but fail to mention, "oh yeah and Kushina was the previous jinchuuriki!, that's kinda of a big deal." She was after all the 4th Hokage's lover, you would think that's something worth stating yet her names been mentioned maybe twice(?) in the whole manga. Where Madara falls into all this and how exactly was the kyuubi sealed into Naruto just goes even further into plot no jutsu terriroty.

The MAIN CHARACTERS mother was the previous 9 tails host, which attacked the city that pretty much started the ENTIRE SERIES. Yet it isn't till years later that anything of the sort is even hinted at? Seriously? I try to turn a blind eye to a lot of things but god damn is shit like that annoying.

They never once mentioned that minato was his father though, until naruto was told by the person himself. In fact, they rarely even mentioned kushina at all. Maybe 1, two occasions max? Seriously, it's not that hard to grasp.

[Xno Kappa]

This.




They never once mentioned that minato was his father though, until naruto was told by the person himself. In fact, they rarely even mentioned kushina at all. Maybe 1, two occasions max? Seriously, it's not that hard to grasp.

It was never mentioned that Minato was Naruto's father but it was always strongly hinted by the 3rd and Jiraiya. Honestly, no one was surprised when Jiraiya's flashback while he was dying confirmed it. Go and reread some of the earlier chapters, the whole manga is directed as Naruto being the first jinchuuriki of the kyuubi. Kushina being the previous host is a "WTF!?" completely.

Another thing, Kushina was from another village yet it has always been stated that the 9-Tails attack on Konoha was some kind of freak natural disaster. The Kage's also claimed during the summit that the bijuu hosts always comes from the upper echelon of the village to ensure loyalty. This means someone in the inner circle in Konoha must have known. Jiraiya, who thought of Minato like a son and was closest to him didn't know? Especially since he was the one who initially decided the 9-Tails attack wasn't a natural disaster yet held the key to allow Naruto to fight the Kyuubi chakra right now with Kushina? The fact that Minato, or anyone in the village for that matter, never even mentions Kushina's help during the sealing of the kyuubi in Naruto is suspect at best. People in the village constantly spoke of the heroism of the 4th during the whole incident but fail to mention the person closest to him that helped him through the process? Or even the person that possibly caused all of it by putting the blame on Kushina? Come on...

Unless her being the previous host was a super secret she kept to herself, Kishi has a lot of explaining to do like how the fuck does Madara factor into all this? Again, unless Madara took control of her before/after? birth while she was alone, someone would have known. Not this secretive crap like, "I think there was someone behind the 9-Tails attack...maybe???" Ffs, Minato wasn't even sure.

Not hating on the manga, just saying, the guy is treading on shaky ground here. It's obvious he just made that shit up recently but I'm sure he'll have some kind of crazy explanation so we'll see.

[Eaglestrike]

You also don't seem to realize that most of the generic hatred came from people who didn't even see the fight. How many people that we see were actually involved in the battle? Jiraiya wasn't there, he was after Orochimaru. The 3rd was retired, do we know he was there? Who do we know that for sure knows exactly how things were?

When was it ever stated Naruto was the first Kyuubi Jinchuuruki? If anything the fact that Gaara was just another one of Shuukaku's containers should point you to believe Naruto isn't the first one. The fact the Bee was just the next in line for the Hachibi should point you to believe Naruto isn't the first.

The Kyuubi being a natural disaster sounds exactly like what you'd release in a press report when you don't want damning details released. The 4th's wife being the cause/root of the attack, Madara being in charge of it, etc. are things you don't want anyone to find out, friend or foe. Those secrets would be locked tight and anyone unable to keep their mouth shut killed. If too many people were actually around to witness what the hell even happened. The Kyuubi killed a great many people that attack and it was stated the crappy ninja were elsewhere, so he probably wrecked a lot of the front-lines.

[Ayn]

People in the village constantly spoke of the heroism of the 4th during the whole incident but fail to mention the person closest to him that helped him through the process? Or even the person that possibly caused all of it by putting the blame on Kushina? Come on...

Maybe the villagers hold some resentment towards Kushina (and the Uzumaki surname alone) for being associated with the attack. It's easy to see how they'd exalt Minato (being the Hokage and all) but resent Kushina, who they could've just seen as going out of control and losing control of the power. Unless of course, it was one of those things kept completely under wraps.

I dunno. I know Bleach has everyone in a rage, but let's wait until next week? There is some worthwhile speculation here, but Kishi's usually pretty good at explaining these things.

[Eaglestrike]

Next next week, no Naruto next week.

[KuroTsuki]

Where did it say Kushina helped Minato in sealing the Kyuubi? I must've missed it. And if it didn't say it anywhere, how the hell do you believe Kushina helped Minato? If the Kyuubi was attacking, that means Kushina WAS the Kyuubi or it was taken out, instantly killing her.

[Cleverness]

It was never mentioned that Minato was Naruto's father but it was always strongly hinted by the 3rd and Jiraiya. Honestly, no one was surprised when Jiraiya's flashback while he was dying confirmed it.

It's more obvious to us as the reader/viewer due to flashbacks and internal monologue, it's rarely ever mentioned to Naruto in such an obvious manner. He doesn't truly know who his parents are until these internal conflicts with the Kyuubi.

Unless her being the previous host was a super secret she kept to herself, Kishi has a lot of explaining to do like how the fuck does Madara factor into all this? Again, unless Madara took control of her before/after? birth while she was alone, someone would have known. Not this secretive crap like, "I think there was someone behind the 9-Tails attack...maybe???" Ffs, Minato wasn't even sure.

I doubt it was super secret. I mean, the 1st Hokage was skilled enough at detaining Tailed Beasts that he eventually gave a few to some other countries. I'm pretty sure he and his brother would take notice if they suddenly didn't know where one was.

Personally I don't see what the big deal with her being the previous host is, some people here are getting bent way out of shape over this. Maybe she gave birth, Madara took control of her in this weakened state and they both had to sacrifice themselves to seal it in Naruto, or something else, it'll most likely be explained at some point since that's what Kishi does. He's not as notorious as Kubo where he'll just leave shit unanswered like Grimmjow's being alive or not.

[wagon]

So what does sasuke have to counter naruto's 9tail karma besides 2 pairs of shenanigan? Are they even on par with naruto's sage tech + 9tail karma?

[Xno Kappa]

Where did it say Kushina helped Minato in sealing the Kyuubi? I must've missed it. And if it didn't say it anywhere, how the hell do you believe Kushina helped Minato? If the Kyuubi was attacking, that means Kushina WAS the Kyuubi or it was taken out, instantly killing her.

The fact that she's in Naruto's mind along with Minato? Seriously? You're telling me she's in there without Minato knowing?

The rest of the answers you guys have given to me sound more like speculation then it does concrete evidence. Again, I'm not saying Kishi won't have an explanation for all this. Just stating that it's pretty obvious this a fresh idea to him and he'll write some ridiculous shit into the story-line to make it work, retcon be damned because nothing in the whole manga series supports this bullshit.