Naruto

[Serif]

Please let it be Guy vs Kisame all next chapter

[Vajra]

Apparently there is a filler starting in September, someone said it's going to last for 6 months WTF. It's the episode after Naruto gets a Hero's welcome at the village, that's when the filler will begin. Anyone have some thoughts on this if it's true lol?

[Kiro]

lolAnime would be my first choice in response to that. Just watch it for the big important fights & such. The hell would wanna sit through every episode? Manga yay~

[Seanr]

i like watching every episode :<

[arus2001]

I wouldn't object to some filler it brought some closure to the Hinata thing. Hell, there was a chance for that this chapter with Naruto agreeing to do things his mom asked and whatnot, but she just kinda got lumped into his "friends" thing.

But yeah, not really sure why people wouldn't expect a filler soon. Not much has technically happened since Pain went down. Just the Summit, Sasuke slipping in, Danzou trying to fuck with things, little fights before Sasuke tracks down Danzou, Sakura failing at killing Sasuke, Naruto stepping in, then basically off to the island for this Fox stuff. I could see maybe 4-5 months of episodes drawn out from this, but then you'd probably only have 2 months or so of adapted manga content to work with, thus requiring fillers anyway.

I'd probably expect more side-character love this go around, though. Aside from Bee (please don't let it focus on him, please -.-), there are no more tailed beasts for Akatsuki to go after. Probably safe to expect some Sasuke, maybe doing something to learn about the summit and Danzou being there. But yeah, Konoha needs to recover and I'm sure some kind of random threat could pop up during this span, too.

[Tymon]

I won't watch all of the filler unless it has a good premise.

I'll probably watch the episodes with fights or story climaxes in them.

[Demonic]

Anyone know if there's a camrip of The Lost Tower out anywhere?

This. Anyone?

[Charismatic]

Damn it.

[Seanr]

same ^

[Zeb]

I thought camrips of anime movies were pretty rare. The only one I can think of is the Haruhi one.

[promethius]

not sure if you guys remembered this but naruto can't be genjutsued anymore now that he can controlt he fox, so another big thing against the sauce. also the jutsu the 4th could not complete so naruto has another power-up on the way.

[Souj]

Why can't he be genjutsu'd? He's still not cooperating with the fox.
and also; even killer bee can be genjutsu'd, he's just able to break out of it.
and what is this jutsu the 4th couldnt complete that you're talking about? the rasenshuriken? cause that's the only jutsu that fits that discription.

[Kiro]

What do you mean Naruto isn't cooperating with the Fox? The Fox is fuckin' done. He's just a big blob of energy that Naruto uses when he needs to now isn't he? Naruto was doing that spirit bomb shit in the latest chapter. I thought that was what was left of the Kyuubi.

[Vaspinne]

What do you mean Naruto isn't cooperating with the Fox? The Fox is fuckin' done. He's just a big blob of energy that Naruto uses when he needs to now isn't he? Naruto was doing that spirit bomb shit in the latest chapter. I thought that was what was left of the Kyuubi.

I think what Souj means is that Bee actually works with the 8-tails when fighting, so when Bee gets put under a genjutsu, the 8-tails can wake him out of it. Where as Naruto only has access to the 9-tails chakra but isn't actually working with him (as of yet). So Naruto isn't (more or less) immune to genjutsu like Bee is.

About this move the 4th couldn't complete, I'm sure that's the Rasengan which Naruto did complete. But the "that jutsu", honestly, I have no idea what that is. Controlling the Kyuubi's chakra, while being a hefty task in and of itself, isn't actually a jutsu (as far as I'm aware). So I have no idea what "that jutsu" is.

[Xaijin]

What do you mean Naruto isn't cooperating with the Fox? The Fox is fuckin' done. He's just a big blob of energy that Naruto uses when he needs to now isn't he? Naruto was doing that spirit bomb shit in the latest chapter. I thought that was what was left of the Kyuubi.

Do you actually read the manga? It was only 2 chapters ago that we see him lock up kyuubi. He still exists, but is chakra-less; as Naruto controls that now.

[Gredival]

Genjutsu is broken when others insert their chakra into you to disturb the flow of chakra that creates the illusion. The question is if Naruto uses Fox chakra by himself in his head, or takes more of it if he is already in his Kyuubi cloak, will that specific infusion of chakra break genjutsu in the same way the Hachibee's chakra breaks genjutsu for Killer Bee.

I can't verify with Onemanga's archives gone, but I think the answer is yes. IRC Bee is already using Hachibee's chakra as a cloak when Sasuke tries Tsukiyomi on Bee. Hachibee still gets Bee out of it by giving him some more chakra though so it seems one simply needs any insertion of chakra, not necessarily chakra foreign to one's system. Therefore as long as Naruto can activate more Fox chakra while in an illusion he can break himself out of it.

That or Itachi's crow is going to cover for that.

[Vajra]

To combat the effects of genjutsu, there are several options.

Combating Genjutsu

The first option is for the ninja to stop the flow of chakra in their body, and then apply an even stronger power to disrupt the flow of the caster's chakra; this is called Genjutsu Release (幻術解, Genjutsu Kai). This can also be done by an unaffected ninja by applying a sudden surge of chakra into the affected person. In addition, tailed beasts can break their jinchūriki out of genjutsu in a similar fashion, as seen in Killer Bee's case.

The second option is through intense pain not caused by the genjutsu and utilizing the resulting pain to bring their senses back in order (of the first two options, the latter seems more effective in most situations, or at least is the easiest).

The third option is accessible only to Sharingan wielders. Members of the Uchiha clan can break or see through genjutsu using their Sharingan. Breaking Tsukuyomi is possible with an ordinary Sharingan, but requires a lot of skill.

Fourthly, ordinary people can sometimes train their eyes (without Sharingan) to break genjutsu through unknown means, like Deidara.

Finally, one can prevent a person from casting genjutsu using obstructive techniques like the Hidden Mist Technique to prevent one from seeing the opponent in the first place, as Zabuza demonstrated against Kakashi.

In spite of these methods, some forms of genjutsu like Itachi's Tsukuyomi and Shima and Fukasaku's Demonic Illusion: Toad Confrontation Singing may not be broken easily, either due to their near-instant effect like the former, or their ability to render one unconscious and paralysed altogether like the latter. In addition, one must realize that he or she is under the effects of genjutsu before attempting to break out of it. This can be done by observing the changes in one's own chakra like Karin's chakra-sensing ability.

Read the first one I bolded, that should be the one people should remember for Naruto and his insane amount of chakra and stamina.

For the second one though, Shikamaru did this on his own (against Tayuya), if Naruto can find a way to dislocate a bone before he goes into Genjutsu, it would negate the Genjutsu as soon as he goes into it.

For the fourth one though, I think Naruto could try to do it too, he would have to reduce the size of his pupil some how like Deidara trained his eye to do (no Deidara didn't have his zooming camera piece on when he was fighting Sasuke).

For the last one though, I think Naruto's next elemental affinity is water, just because he's from the Whirlpool Land, if he can learn Hidden Mist Technique like Kakashi, Zabuza and Kisame used then it should be fine.

[Qalbert]

plus the whole thing about his elements fitting with Sauce's if I remember the rock paper scissors-ish weaknesses correctly

[AzazaelFenrir]

I wouldn't be shocked to see something with Kabuwhatever and Madra next chapter, making us all wait for Gai and his sushi bar.

[promethius]

Why can't he be genjutsu'd? He's still not cooperating with the fox.
and also; even killer bee can be genjutsu'd, he's just able to break out of it.
and what is this jutsu the 4th couldnt complete that you're talking about? the rasenshuriken? cause that's the only jutsu that fits that discription.

the whole point of jiraya sending the key to naruto was to complete a jutsu that needed a vast reserve of chakra which meant the nine tails chakra, which he did not need to make the rasenshuriken, hell he didn't need to be a sage to make the shuriken just to throw it he needed to be. in fact he already made the shuriken before jiraya sends the key over.

The issue with the rasen shuriken was that it was almost impossible to meld your element to the rasengan so what the main issue was chakra control not how much chakra you have. Case in point trying to control it in the fight he first uses it in, he ends up losing it at one point, also he would lose control of his chkra when tryingt o learn it making the fox almost take over. jiraya even says he needs it to complete that jutsu when he sends the key over. i would post the chapter but can't find it anywhere since onemanga is gone.