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    As far as healing jutsu goes, you're right orson. But out of the group of ninja there, who would have been able to perform healing jutsu on Naruto's ankle to heal it? That's right, there aren't any medical ninja there. So the only way to quickly heal the ankle would've been to tap into the Fox which, if I understand correctly, is similar to Tsunade's jutsu which relies solely on rapid regeneration. And that would cause a shortening of their life span. Sure Naruto heals faster than normal from regular injuries, but that doesn't equate to basic healing jutsu... it's just the way he is due to having the Fox sealed in him. Tapping into the Fox for the sole purpose of healing even faster (much like what happens when he is cloaked), meanwhile, is solely rapid regeneration.
    Bingo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    I didn't even notice that till now >_<
    I mentioned it on the last page before all the faggotry came about.


    Quote Originally Posted by Boyiee View Post
    He called Konan Nagato.

    He called Konan Nagato.

    He called Konan Nagato.

    mind fuck
    Possible translation who knows till next week

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    So the shark on land travels at basically the speed of sound? since you know they've only been trapped for 7 seconds. Weak writing is weak no matter but it's not like me saying anything will change it so fine you win, it totally makes sense.
    They're on a fucking island, and Gai just barely managed to capture Kisame. They're right next to the damn water. Did you not even read 507? You also somehow think that Zabuza's on a level near Kisame, which is just laughable. It's also not like they have to deal with fighting sharks for a few seconds before they can break out of the prison.

    Also Deadgye don't come into a conversation well underway and assume that you know exactly what we're refering to. The only thing I was saying is Naruto healing from an ankle wound =/= him aging himself rapidly.
    As was already pointed out, that was what you were saying because the only way he could have possibly healed is through his own regeneration methods. You have no grasp of the situation at all because you're too busy raging for no reason to pay attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orson View Post
    Fair enough, I suppose that could be the case. More or less though I guess the more interesting question is whether or not Naruto is able to control his healing now. Before whenever he was injured tapping into the fox's chakra instantly kicked in his healing.

    Over all just like One Piece having Luffy's 2nd/3nd gear supposedly harm his body I'm doubting the "it'll age you" card will ever come into play. Ultimately it's a device just to show the serious nature of what the person is willing to do for the win.
    What the hell are you doing? Is there some "Kishi's writing sucks" bandwagon I missed or are you just nitpicking minute details for no reason? Whether or not Naruto can control his healing is just about the most uninteresting question you've asked up to this point in your last few posts. As far as we've seen in the manga, even in the Kisame vs. Bee fight, water/the ocean is Kisame's domain. You don't fuck with him there -- you will get your shit kicked in. Save Gai, obviously, who didn't use a chakra technique to beat Kisame. Is it really so hard to believe that a ninpou, from the kind of caliber ninja Kisame was, was powerful and advanced enough to get away? Likewise for the water prisons? Far as I'm concerned, when I read that chapter, as soon as the shark was in the water it was gone and they missed their chance. Adios mister shark.

    Move on, dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyiee View Post
    I mentioned it on the last page before all the faggotry came about.




    Possible translation who knows till next week
    "So you have no intention of telling me where you hid the Rinnegan... Nagato"

    Probably just short hand for "-the Rinnegan... Nagato's body"

    Also @ Saga and Deadgye I totally agree it makes all kinds of sense that Kisame would rather commit suicide because he knew his flawless trap would safe the day. There's no way he could have used water prison instead of summoning 3-4 sharks to eat him. No no it's far more logical that all those ninjas had their guard down because you it's not like trapped scrolls weren't in the freaking chuunin exams. Seriously it's nothing more then writing your way out of corner if you can't see it you're just making excuses. Can you really argue that this makes more sense than say just having 1 shark escape during Kisame and Guy's fight?

    I can't believe how people are so upset by me not finding this chapter to be up to the stellar writing that's been going on recently. I may be nit picking in your eyes but if that's the case why are you trying so hard to defend it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by orson View Post
    I'm sorry I would but it looks like you're too busy dick riding him.
    If me correcting your flawed, baww logic is dick riding, then I guess I'm all over that dick. Sorry that you seem to think Kisame should only be as strong as someone we met in the first twenty episodes/chapters. Gai definitely would've needed to open up that many chakra gates for Zabuza, no doubt about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orson View Post
    "So you have no intention of telling me where you hid the Rinnegan... Nagato"

    Probably just short hand for "-the Rinnegan... Nagato's body"

    Also @ Saga and Deadgye I totally agree it makes all kinds of sense that Kisame would rather commit suicide because he knew his flawless trap would safe the day. There's no way he could have used water prison instead of summoning 3-4 sharks to eat him. No no it's far more logical that all those ninjas had their guard down because you it's not like trapped scrolls weren't in the freaking chuunin exams. Seriously it's nothing more then writing your way out of corner if you can't see it you're just making excuses. Can you really argue that this makes more sense than say just having 1 shark escape during Kisame and Guy's fight?
    It was 6 against 1. 2 of those 6 were fucking jinchuuriki. Kisame didn't have Samehada. He was already weakened and near death. He didn't nearly have enough strength or physical ability left at that point in the fight to water prison all six of his opponents. It makes sense the trap was able to snag all 6 of them because he'd made it at full strength.

    Think logically about it instead of being a retard. What happens if Kisame doesn't kill himself? He gets captured AGAIN, by any one of the six shinobi he's facing, and guess what? He gets his mind read, again, and gives Konoha important information, namely Madara's identity. He bit his tongue off to wake up, and he killed himself so Konoha couldn't read his mind any more. Read this page again:

    http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/72932747/13

    Naruto literally spells it out for you. "He did it so the enemy, us, wouldn't get any info."

    Yes, they were caught off guard. Did you really expect Gai, Naruto or Bee of all people to continue being cautious in the face of what appears to be victory?

    And dude, you can barely craft a working sentence, let alone reason your way through anything that requires an extremely moderate level of thought. I really doubt you're the expert on story structure and writing your way out of corners that you think you are.

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    Everyone needs to shut up and chill the fuck out. Especially you Orson.

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    Forget it I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyiee View Post
    I mentioned it on the last page before all the faggotry came about.




    Possible translation who knows till next week
    I might be over-thinking a bad translation, but I just assumed Tobi was calling the Rinnegan "Nagato," not Konan (i.e. "Where is the Rinnegan, (that you call/know as) Nagato?"). Basically saying Tobi doesn't give a shit about Nagato/Pein outside of him having the Rinnegan.

    Edit: Sorry, skipped a couple posts, guess Orson already said the same thing.

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    I decided to take a look at the raws and it seems like he was indeed just repeating, saying nagato to further specify rinnegan.

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    Madara asks Konan the reason for her betrayal. Is Naruto really worth it?
    Konan says Naruto is the light, the flower of hope for everyone.
    Konan is hostile towards Madara.
    Madara: Fighting with me wearing that cloak, does it mean you still can't let go.
    Konan:Yahiko created the Akatsuki. The red clouds on this cloak are the symbol of the rain of blood that poured down in Amegakure during the war. Even if you had taken over the Akatsuki, this cloak still represent our justice. It's not yours.
    Rinnegan was activated by Nagato in Amegakure, it's not yours either. His eyes are the precious asset of this country, this village.
    Madara: It's I who made Yahiko create the Akatsuki. It's I who gave Rinnegan to Nagato. It's only right that I take them back. All I have to do now is capture you.


    Just as planned.

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    Naruto 509 – The bridge to peace

    Madara listens to Konan’s reasons for her betrayal (of Akatsuki). He says he didn’t expect that Naruto was worth so much.
    Konan says hostilely, “Because he is the light, and holds the flower of hope for everyone.”
    Madara: “The fact that you are still wearing those clothes (Akatsuki uniform) despite fighting me tells me that you still cling to Akatsuki.”
    Konan: “Akatsuki was created by Yahiko, the red clouds on their uniform symbolise the rain of blood that fell during war in Amegakure, and just because you came aboard Akatsuki, it doesn’t make it yours – it’s our symbol of justice”
    Konan continues: “The Rinnegan was bestowed upon Nagato of Amegakure, it is not yours, but his eyes are this country’s, and this village’s treasure”
    Madara lets Konan’s paper shuriken pass through his body, “This will be the end, so I’ll tell you”
    “The one who induced Yahiko to set up the Akatsuki was me. The one who gave Nagato the Rinnegan was also me. That’s why it’s only right to ask for them to be returned to me”
    The two begin their battle as Konan says that if Madara were to get his hands on it, all sorts of things would happen.
    Konan doesn’t let hi materialised body escape by attacking with a large number of paper attacks.
    Madara notices that she has something planned and decides to take her on, trying to suck Konan up when he has a chance.
    However Konan has mixed some exploding tags among the paper, intending to kill the both of them.
    -flashback starts-
    When Akatsuki was founded? Konan reports to Yahiko that their members have been defeated.
    Yahiko and Nagato are both injured and bandaged.
    There are numerous other minor members present apart from Yahiko, Nagato and Konan.
    Nagato says that he will go out to recce in the afternoon, but Yahiko says “I’ll go, so rest, don’t strain yourself”
    He continues, “Nagato is pivotal to Akatsuki and is the man who will change the world. So just give all your worries to Nagato”
    Konan: “The same goes for you, everyone loves you and thus follows you, just like with Nagato”
    A while later, Yahiko responds “He is the man who will become the bridge to peace. My role is to become a pillar of support to that bridge”
    Yahiko murmurs, “This country is still crying, and I now want to save this country which I once hated for always crying, that’s how I feel deep down. I just can’t leave this country alone because it’s a crybaby just like me,” and he leaves.
    Konan, Nagato and the other members see him off, Nagato says, “The one who will be the bridge to peace is him, his very purpose will form the bridge”
    “We’ll believe in Yahiko, let’s go everyone!” he commands, before following after Yahiko.
    The flashback ends with Konan’s monologue of determination “I will become the pillar of support to the two bridges formed by Yahiko and Nagato”
    The exploded paper and cloth are scattered about. We see a little of Madara’s face as his mask has broken. He has also lost his right arm.
    He says to Konan who is right before him, seemingly not with as many injuries, “I underestimated you, after all you were also once a member of Akatsuki.”
    “You intended to explode the both of us, but thanks to the fact that I sucked in a little of the explosion, both of us are safe”
    In response to Madara’s question if she’s exhausted her secret plans, Konan says that she has a question for Madara. “Do you know why you were betrayed by us?”
    Madara: Who knows?
    Konan uses secret arts as she yells “You are darkness, a flower can only wilt in a world without light!”
    The lake? sea? all becomes paper, and spreads just like the Red Sea did for Moses, and she tries to drop Madara into it… next chapter!
    A secret art to protect Nagato… Seal him into a sea of paper!!

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    FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUU...
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    Konan is flashbacking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirokei Kiaza View Post
    FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUU...
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    Konan is flashbacking.

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    Dammit, somebody get there and save her sweet, ripe ass! Eyecandy like that cannot die, although I'm sure she'd be happy to re-join her friends.

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    no way Konan will die. Okay, we know how much women end up failing in this story but I honestly don't want to see this one die. but more importantly that TOTALLY looks like Obito's body *yeah I'm never letting that theory go* 8D

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