Naruto

**Charismatic** · 2011-03-10 13:02

Originally Posted by TummieGaruda

Too much conversation but I kind of lol'd at what was said here:

http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/91687110/12

**Maguspk** · 2011-03-10 18:56

Glad the fight is over at least, probably Azuma next week. Fights are going quickly.

**Deadgye** · 2011-03-10 21:41

Too much conversation but I kind of lol'd at what was said here:

Oh god damnit lol, now I can't unsee.

I have no idea who these characters are, what their relevance is to anything, or what their conversation was actually about.

How can you not know who they are? D:

**Uzor** · 2011-03-10 22:34

wtf were they talking about? I think Hanzou was just as confused about this part as me, considering his "WHAT IS HE TALKING ABOUT?!" comment:

Spoiler: show

I must have read that 20 times, and it still makes no sense.

**Ayn** · 2011-03-10 23:29

Mifune adopts what I like to call the "Sephiroth approach": Spew random shit to confuse the hell out of your opponent while you beat the hell out of him.

Seriously, go back and watch Advent Children or Advent Children complete. Sephiroth will spout some random nonsensical line to Cloud that makes no sense, then hit him with an attack that sends him sprawling across the Midgar skyline.

I also laughed at the job change thing. All the Samurai took the highway to the Blade: Jin zone.

**Maguspk** · 2011-03-10 23:34

lol yeah some of the dialogue was hard to follow.

**Deadgye** · 2011-03-11 00:49

I normally have zero problems following what's going on, when apparently many others are confused. But this chapter was just.. lolwut. I'm going to go ahead and say complicated dialog combined with not good translation.

**Vajra** · 2011-03-11 04:13

So could Mifune's attacks stop Itachi's and Kakashi's hand seals, cause we know those dudes got some fast wtfbbqkittenz hand seals...

**Salodin** · 2011-03-11 11:28

Since when did sharingan haxes need hand seals?

**Thunder** · 2011-03-11 11:34

"you should know, if the sword was as strong as the one at the beginning, if you would be killed or not"

He should know if he would be killed or not. Make sense? Good. That line means that IF the sword was as strong as the one at the beginning was he should know whether or not he will be killed.

But regardless, the line's poorly written because everybody everywhere would have to read that line at least twice to make sense of it. The rest of the conversations were pretty vague, too. But I'm pretty sure it's all about the samurai sword being peaceful and never dulling while hanzou's has killed many and grown dull. Yeah?

**Salodin** · 2011-03-11 13:16

Yeah, I think you hit it on the head.

**Ragnus** · 2011-03-12 10:23

Animated! Now! D:

**Sho** · 2011-03-12 14:34

I didn't have a problem with reading the chapter. It was just philosophical babble based on Samurai Codes back in the day.

Mifune is for peace, it's obvious. For that only reason he's allied with the ninja. First clash between Hanzo and Mifune is similar to the philosophy that a samurai can sense the ideals of his opponent by clashing swords with him (if you read Bleach a while back, Ichigo denotes the same feeling after looking back on all of the people he's fought with to Gin). Hanzou speaks on how Mifune declares his neutrality and it being similar to running away. He then mentions "Peaceful" Samurai ways gave way to massive job change to Ninja as people wished to acquire power, thus changing their original plan from peace to continued war (and domination). Mifune retorts on how his "faith" is what motivates him to fight for peace instead and that this "faith" transcends his own life.

After adding that Hanzou has lost his "faith", he then states that people are like swords-- that even beyond his own life, his sword, Meitou Kurosawa, will remain on earth (like people in general; it's a quip that there will always be time to vie for "peace" as humans will always remain on earth). Hanzou gets mad and asks why didn't the Samurai take their own lives since it's a new era (ninjas) and the Samurai Way is out of date... to which Mifune mentions again that Hanzou has lost his "faith" and can no longer understand his meaning. Mifune uses an Iai stirke to halt Hanzou's hand seals, and Hanzou harkens back to fighting a Samurai with a not-so-similar outcome (that chain with the ball Hanzou threw hit Mifune in the head back in the day and broke his sword as well; this time around Mifune blocked the attack).

Mifune then mentions that if Hanzou's sword (resolve) was sharp as it was back in the day, he would have realized that he cannot kill Mifune as he is now. As Hanzou contempetes what Mifune has just said, he has a flashback just just before he is killed at the hands of Pain. He has this flashback because he remembers Pain mentioning something similar-- when Pain was Yahiko, he looked up to Hanzou due to his fighting spirit and resolve as a Samurai/Shinobi, fighting for peace. Pain then equates this betrayal (losing his original ideals of peace) to Danzou's betrayal and kills Hanzou with Shinra Tensei.

Back to the present, Hanzou still cannot see what's going on and summons up his poison frog from the ground to eat Mifune, who instead slashes the summon in half from the belly out. Mifune bad-ass quotes his way out of the frog (Katanas or "ideals" or "resolve" that stays sharp will remain forever), and posts up with Hanzou for a Samurai-esque stand off -> quick draw. Mifune wins this bout, and then again speaks of Hanzou's ideals and "Faith" being bent and distorted, "dulling his blade" and hurting his fighting spirit.

No tl;dr, figure it out. This chapter was actually badass and will be amazing as fuck when animated.

**Salodin** · 2011-03-12 16:04

When it's animated, it'll be better explained too =\

**Olbohn** · 2011-03-14 21:15

I hope with everything happening in Japan that it doesn't effect my manga or else I'll be sad

**Souj** · 2011-03-14 22:28

Yeah, fuck Japan. Just give me my 12 pages of naruto.

that was sarcasm btw

**blindSharingan** · 2011-03-15 09:04

Originally Posted by Olbohn

I hope with everything happening in Japan that it doesn't effect my manga or else I'll be sad

There are spoilers out not sure how legit they are though.

**Vaspinne** · 2011-03-15 11:29

Apparently Jump is going to be out on Saturday as opposed to Monday in Japan like it usually releases. And considering we get the chapter a week earlier than that, I'm sure we'll get the chapters this week. I'm guessing we'll get em on Wednesday like we usually do, barring any issues scanlators might have getting a raw.

**Serif** · 2011-03-15 12:52

Brief Spoilers

Spoiler: show

**Ratatapa** · 2011-03-15 18:36

Spoiler

Spoiler: show

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