Naruto

**Souj** · 2011-05-01 01:11

Originally Posted by Havocxx

Only problem with this is that he's going after the cop-out chakra right after he finds out both Naruto and Killer Bee are out in the open.

That's not where the problem lies. and you answered it yourself!

Originally Posted by Havocxx

right after he finds out both Naruto and Killer Bee are out in the open.

If you still haven't figured it out;

Spoiler: show

and I'd say this is probably the only way that Madara can actually accomplish his goals without Naruto being killed and/or losing his fox powers.

Demetrius* · 2011-05-01 01:16

I dunno, they said they "sealed the powers of the jinchurriki's, that includes one of killer bee's tentacles". So he basically has chakra from all 9 hosts, and seeing how he hasn't carried out moons eye yet, it's not enough, he needs the actual hosts. He's probably just using it to power up the gedo statue even more.

**Tymon** · 2011-05-01 01:28

He doesn't need Bee.

They have the chakra from his one tentacle that they absorbed.

I guess all they need is a miniscule amount of chakra from every one of the beasts.

**Milkster** · 2011-05-01 01:32

Originally Posted by Tymon

He doesn't need Bee.

They have the chakra from his one tentacle that they absorbed.

I guess all they need is a miniscule amount of chakra from every one of the beasts.

They can probably get away with small amounts of chakra from each beast but it won't be the full power of the technique. And that'll probably be the downfall of Madara and the statue.

**BadKarma** · 2011-05-01 07:58

Why did Madara say it was regrettable to have Shikamaru as an opponent.

EDIT: NVM bad translation. Shikamaru is to smart for his own good.

**Salodin** · 2011-05-01 10:21

He intends to use the moon eye the next day, and he went out of his way to get the gourde with the brothers back. If he intends to use cop-out method I'm going to be very upset...he wouldn't have even needed to send an army to attack, Kabuto had the brothers already for ages, and he's sealed one of the 8-tails' tails for awhile now. Shit better be expanded upon in the next chapter cause my whole head is full of fuck atm...

**KCem** · 2011-05-01 11:58

At this point in the war the presence of Naruto and Bee represents more of a threat then a potential chance to capture them. He's basically gone with plan B because it's the safest option he has left now, he can't risk taking them both on. Ideally he'd liked to have captured them both, but hadn't counted on the Akatsuki being so badly beaten and then the war going sour with the hall of fame dream team being taken apart.

**Salodin** · 2011-05-01 12:23

But if plan b was safer and still produced the same outcome, why not do it from the beginning. I mean cmon, once the moon turns haxor, its game over for everyone any ways. Like I said, I'm hoping next chapter explains something cause this is all kinda stupid atm.

**DrClout** · 2011-05-01 12:35

That's with the assumption that Madara knew how many and exactly who Kabuto had ready for the IWR. To the best of our knowledge, he was only shown former Akatsuki members. If he knew what was up then sure he could have just skipped it and taken them while they were at full strength.

Even Kabuto is saying he needs to chill the fuck out and be patient. And if Naruto is anything like any other Shounen hero, he'll be heading straight to were Madara is.

**KCem** · 2011-05-01 13:22

iirc Madara needs to become the 10-tails' host before he can turn the moon into a giant sharingan. This method probably just produces a weaker 10-tails as it has less Chakra (and most importantly, is missing the majority of the two biggest beasts), which can potentially open up a window of opportunity for his defeat. So it's feasible that this plan of action would have taken a back seat if he'd gotten a chance to swipe either Bee or Naruto.

And nobody want's to see Bee die when the 8-tails is extracted, he's far too awesome, Kishi clearly pays attention to the popularity polls.

**Sunrider** · 2011-05-01 21:28

I'd be curious to know just how much chakra Madara stands to lose if he leaves out the kyubi proper.

There was some translated interview with Kishimoto where it was asked of him to compare the chakra of the tailed beasts. He refused to give an approximate answer, but implied an uneven scaling, saying that the hachibi might be eight times more powerful than the ichibi, but the kyubi was still thousands of times more powerful than the hachibi.

Of course, Kishimoto might have been pulling it all out of his ass, to forget it the next minute. The point is, if the kyubi really does represent a significant portion of the jubi's chakra, then the key to his defeat may lie in his impatience trying to capture the kyubi.

**Salodin** · 2011-05-01 21:43

I hate how I stop watching the anime for half a year for it to catch up, and in 2 1/2 hours I'm already at the latest episode. Fillers need to fucking die.

**Souj** · 2011-05-01 23:29

eh, Naruto anime has sucked pretty much since after the 1st Naruto v Sasuke fight. Just way to filled with filler it ruins the awesome parts.

**Sho** · 2011-05-02 15:02

So basically Madara will make an "incomplete" 10-tails and start his plan. 10-tails vs 9-tails & 8(7)-tails. Cannot wait.

**Odin'sLaw** · 2011-05-02 16:25

so far from the last chapter all i got was

Shikamaru is still fucking boss
deus ex machina is now how all manga's run (not surpriced but meh i like some substance)

and a note on the fox chakra in the gourd, even if he was able to absorb naruto's fox chakra its only 50% of the real Kyubi's power so the statue wouldn't ever be at full power so i'm presuming he's having to use the fox power from the gourd to "restock" fox power even if its just an extra few %

**Vandole** · 2011-05-02 17:44

not sure if madara knows that naruto has 50% of the fox's power in him.

**Ayn** · 2011-05-02 21:11

I can see it now:

Naruto gets the 9-tails taken from him, but much like his mother, manages to live despite the tailed beast extraction.

Madara creates the ten-tails, triumphantly lives as his plan comes to fruition. However, when he tries to execute the Moon's Eye plan, the ten tails goes ballistic, the plan fails, and Madara screams, wondering how his plan could have failed.

As he looks up in the sky, instead of a Sharingan on the moon, a distorted version of Minato's face, conveniently shaped like the trollface, simply goes:

"Problem, Madara?"

**Maguspk** · 2011-05-02 21:19

Doubt Madara doesn't know, he was there during the whole thing.

**Draggy** · 2011-05-02 22:45

After so many years waiting to complete his "plan" I don't see why he would half-ass it right at the end

**Boyiee** · 2011-05-02 22:52

I don't think he is going to half ass it. I think that maybe the statue is stronger the more tailed beasts are absorbed, and maybe he is just using the brothers chakra to beef it up a little more first. I mean, if he really could half ass it and do it - then why would he need to wait till "tomorrow?" The moon is out, he could do it now, so he must be missing something. Maybe he expects to face 8/9 tails the next day as he knows they are on their way and all, or maybe he is just using the brothers chakra so naruto can track it right to him.

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