Naruto

[Souj]

well, madara just said that they just got adjusted to their new eyes. So however it happened, it must have recently happened.

[Phoenyx]

While Kabuto hints that he didn't reveal his entire arsenal of bodies to Madara (chapter 490, I think), I find it more likely that Madara uses a similar procedure that Nagato did to create the original Six Paths of Pain; especially since Madara would've still had the jinchurikis' bodies. No need for Kabuto to really edo tensei at all, imo.

[Xno Kappa]

While Kabuto hints that he didn't reveal his entire arsenal of bodies to Madara (chapter 490, I think), I find it more likely that Madara uses a similar procedure that Nagato did to create the original Six Paths of Pain; especially since Madara would've still had the jinchurikis' bodies. No need for Kabuto to really edo tensei at all, imo.

Nope. All resurrected through Kabuto's Edo Tensei.

Spoiler: show

And they're aren't any apparent chakra receivers to insinuate original bodies. Unless Kishi comes up with a new lame plot device to control dead bodies. That'd be extra stupid too because now you have two sets of former jinchurriki's up and about.

[Furoris]

I assume he used the same process that nagato made the six paths of pain, but controlling them with a sharingan instead of chakra rods, he did have a room full of them. IDK we'll see

[Cleverness]

Probably something dumb like a Sharingan illusion making them think they're alive. Chapter was pretty much amazing until those final pages, but if it's anything like recently he will prolly explain how this happened in a chapter or 2 and it'll make sense.

[Khajit]

It's been a while and im being more lazy than usual. Were the hosts brought back with edo tensei before or after Kabuto showed Madara how to do it? It's possible that Madara summoned this set(or forced some scmuck to summon then with his hax powers) and left the other zombies to Kabuto. It would be interesting if Madara merged Edi tensei with nagato's techniques as a workaround against the usual drawbacks.(cant home in on the main guy because the zombies work under thier own power, only a single ability per body, less chakra drained from the summoner since Madara isn't literally powering them all at once unlike Nagato.)

[Souj]

all of the dead guys were introduced at the same exact time.

[TheTaru]

I assume he used the same process that nagato made the six paths of pain, but controlling them with a sharingan instead of chakra rods, he did have a room full of them. IDK we'll see

Probably something like this. Madara has all of the jinchuurikis' original bodies + an original pair of rinnegan (which seems like it can be given to anyone/anything via a rinnegan user's chakra. Animals that Pain summoned had them. Madara went to a decent amount of trouble to specifically retrieve Nagato's eyes, rather than the eyes of the dead bodies he controlled.) + a room full of sharingan.

With how retarded everything is now, I don't see why Madara having the original bodies (which are under his control) while Kabuto can summon the souls into other dead bodies wouldn't be possible.

tl:dr Everything has gone full retard.

[Xno Kappa]

all of the dead guys were introduced at the same exact time.

Exactly my point. So it's either Madara is using a second set of former jinchuriki's from the original bodies themselves or Kabuto is allowing him control over them, either way I want to see how Kishi explains the rinnegans in them. Regardless of whatever happens, it all just makes Orochimaru even more full of fail if he couldn't get himself a pair of sharingans at the local Uchiha shop.

[Vaspinne]

How did Raikage know both of Naruto's parents by name?
Didn't just about everyone in Konoha not know who Naruto's parents were? The only people I remember actually having any knowledge of it were the 3rd hokage and Jaraiya.

Well Minato is explained because he went toe to toe against him. And if I'm not mistaken, it was the Raikage's village (Hidden Cloud) that tried to kidnap Kushina when she was still a kid when Minato saved her.

[Souj]

pretty sure the jinchuriki's are Kabuto's because they have the cracks and lines over their bodies.

And what's the point of making the 6 paths of pain out of those 6? becoming a path limits you to only 1 type of ninjitsu, and they are all controlled by a single person (Madara). Though they don't even have the controls rods in them eiher, which was something Nagato had in even his summons.

So were talking about either conveniently forgetting things for the sake of plot, or madara hax.

[TheTaru]

pretty sure the jinchuriki's are Kabuto's because they have the cracks and lines over their bodies.

And what's the point of making the 6 paths of pain out of those 6? becoming a path limits you to only 1 type of ninjitsu, and they are all controlled by a single person (Madara). Though they don't even have the controls rods in them eiher, which was something Nagato had in even his summons.

So were talking about either conveniently forgetting things for the sake of plot, or madara hax.

I was thinking like the guy I quoted said, that the sharingan would act as a control rod. Definitely wouldn't make as much sense, but nothing in narutoooo does.

I'm not really sure the lines on their faces immediately convince me that they're edo tensei'd. I think some of Pain's bodies had similar facial shading. Edit: Actually, I didn't look at the bottom half of the last page really well. That definitely does look like they're Kabuto's.

At least one of the jinchuuriki could use a bloodline jutsu (bubbles...lol) and I guess maybe they were just the only dead bodies Madara had lying around? Edo tensei'd bodies also seemingly immediately heal any injury, so I'd think gouging out an eye to put a sharingan in wouldn't work.


You could definitely be right; I don't feel like either idea makes complete sense.

[Xno Kappa]

The cracks and shading definitely suggest the Edo Tensei'd bodies Kabuto summoned up.

[TheTaru]

The cracks and shading definitely suggest the Edo Tensei'd bodies Kabuto summoned up.

Yeah I definitely didn't notice the cracks the first time I looked through the chapter. Pretty much destroys my entire argument, but I still think it's weird that the bodies didn't auto-heal after eye-gouging.

[Maguspk]

I am really confused about the whole Yellow Flash moment. Was Naruto saying 'Like my Father taught me' to the idea that they realized he yellow flashed or about the savior thing. Also, is he really yellow flashing or moving really fast. I wish we could tell if he was near the rock wall that Raikage punched, if he was then he definitely had to yellow flash to get behind Raikage before the punch hit the wall, if he just side stepped I would believe it was just Naruto's increased reaction speed.

[Sunrider]

I am really confused about the whole Yellow Flash moment. Was Naruto saying 'Like my Father taught me' to the idea that they realized he yellow flashed or about the savior thing. Also, is he really yellow flashing or moving really fast. I wish we could tell if he was near the rock wall that Raikage punched, if he was then he definitely had to yellow flash to get behind Raikage before the punch hit the wall, if he just side stepped I would believe it was just Naruto's increased reaction speed.

I think the "like my father taught me" line refers to the principles he learned from his father (or perhaps inheriting his will, a theme running in Konoha), and taking on the task of stopping Madara.

I don't imagine Memory-Minato had time to teach him Hiraishin (though it'd be awesome if Naruto started dabbling in sealing techniques, since it's sort of his birthright). I doubt Naruto used the true Hiraishin, it's more likely that he just moved really, really fast, such that even the Raikage was left in the dust. A speed that exceeds the Raikage's could easily be confused with the Yellow Flash's signature technique.

However, it certainly would be something (re: h4x) if Naruto were revealed to have developed teleportation without the aid of seals.

[Salodin]

Kabuto probably just left the revived hosts with him. I'm at a loss as to how he had enough rinnegans for everyone though...nothing makes any real sense.

If Madara is just controlling them with his own eye, that doesn't make much sense since Kabuto is controlling them via WiFi too. They don't exactly have a will of their own when Kabuto wants to take that away from them.

[kuronosan]

I'm pretty sure the Rinnegans appear in any host controlled by them. I'm sure the explanation we'll be given is that since Madara possesses both, the bodies he controls also possess both by chakra extension.

[Xno Kappa]

That still doesn't explain how he would be able to control them without any black chakra receivers unless Madara's sharingan has an app for that bullshit too. It doesn't seem likely Kabuto would willingly let Madara control the former jinchuriki hosts knowing full well his plan.

[Phoenyx]

Guess I should've read a few chapters ahead of my previous post and seen the page with the edo tensei'd jinchurikis. D:

Anyone have a different translation of the last page? The first panel has the text "The Sharingan and Rinnegan transplanted...", so unless there's another translation for that I'd assume Madara used a handful of his tons of Sharingan we've seen and actually implanted them. As for the Rinnegan, I remember him saying to Konan that he gave Nagato the Rinnegan. If we take that literally, maybe Madara possesses the means to create the Rinnegan in others and has stocked up on them like he has the Sharingan. Otherwise I'm just as confused as everyone else as to how the fuck he got so many.