Naruto

[Vaspinne]

Ohhh, the samurai fodder, I forgot about them. I guess you're right =/

And yeah, the anime is back to actual storyline.

Spoiler: show

Naruto is currently taking on Kurama and in the next episode he'll meet his mom

[Epysian]

I just want to point out, unless you count turning the white Zetsu clones into trees, Naruto hasn't actually killed anyone. The Pain's that he "killed" were all dead to begin with and more or less used as puppets by Nagato. Nagato himself committed suicide by reviving the dead Konoha Shinobi. Kakuzu was killed by Kakashi once and for all.

But looking back, neither Naruto or even Sasuke have killed anyone. Sasuke attempted to kill Karin, but she survived. He attempted to kill Danzou, but Danzou committed suicide. He didn't kill Orochimaru, he absorbed him and when Orochimaru escaped, Itachi ended up sealing him away again. And Deidara also committed suicide. And Itachi died from his disease.

So unless I'm missing someone, neither Naruto or Sasuke have actually killed anyone

True. But I feel like Sasuke fighting the acting Hokage and causing him to kill himself is still not good for his chances at redemption. I feel like it's gonna be hard for Sasuke to justify his actions to the village even if he does turn good again. Then again, Danzo was a dick, so who knows.

Kakashi killed Kakuzu? Didn't Naruto's close range rasenshuriken kill him?

Pretty sure Kakashi finished him off. The Rasenshuriken did most of the legwork though.

EDIT: Whoops, didn't realize there was another page and this shit was already answered.

[Sunrider]

True. But I feel like Sasuke fighting the acting Hokage and causing him to kill himself is still not good for his chances at redemption. I feel like it's gonna be hard for Sasuke to justify his actions to the village even if he does turn good again. Then again, Danzo was a dick, so who knows.

Keep in mind, Danzo and the Hokage's advisors engineered the Uchiha massacre, and put the pressure on Itachi to play double-agent and then criminal for their sakes. Danzo was also indirectly responsible for Pain--he was conspiring with Salamander Hanzo for an alliance in the interest of a coup d'etat when they met Yahiko's little rebel band.

The point is that Danzo's probably been in plenty enough dirty shit (whether for the good of the village or otherwise) to discredit him, or the legitimacy of his brief role as Hokage. Anyone that knew him knew without dirty details that he'd been scheming for the position for years.

[Tymon]

didn't sasuke kill some ninja after the kage conference arc? I vaguely recall them commenting that he ordered taka not to kill but ended up doing so himself

[Vaspinne]

didn't sasuke kill some ninja after the kage conference arc? I vaguely recall them commenting that he ordered taka not to kill but ended up doing so himself

Those were the samurai that were mentioned a couple posts above.

[Eurell]

Those were the samurai that were mentioned a couple posts above.

He killed the ninja that was spying on them after his fight with B as well, but before the conference.

[Ayn]

And he would've killed Sakura too, if it wasn't for those meddling kids and their demon fox.

[Damane]

And he would've killed Sakura too, if it wasn't for those meddling kids and their demon fox.

which lead me to the quesiont why fuckign Sakura is not evolving. She seemd so boss when Naruto shipuuden started and then Naruto and the Sauce just learned more and more new things and she has fallen agian behind, to the same exact spot as pre Naruot shipuuden when teh Sauce left...

Cant she fucking finally kick some seirousl Sauce and Naruto ass, just for the sake of it...

[Kobb]

which lead me to the quesiont why fuckign Sakura is not evolving. She seemd so boss when Naruto shipuuden started and then Naruto and the Sauce just learned more and more new things and she has fallen agian behind, to the same exact spot as pre Naruot shipuuden when teh Sauce left...

Cant she fucking finally kick some seirousl Sauce and Naruto ass, just for the sake of it...

Shounen, woman, useless, etc.

[arus2001]

Her emotional ties to Sasuke otherwise a paralytic, Sakura hasn't really had a fight outside of her duo with Chiyo. At best, we can infer her a mini-Tsunade just as how Naruto and Sasuke reflect Jiraiya and Orochimaru, but Tsunade also hasn't really gotten much fight time outside of Kabuto in the original series. Even then, she had issues. So, in terms of fighting, maybe she's not that great beyond her raw strength, but such could feasibly be offset by her healing potential if you want to go all lolbalance on the character. So, to that end, Sakura's strength(s) could be similar, but being a glorified combat medic isn't much to write home about compared to some of the other characters lobbed around.

I don't hate her, and wouldn't mind seeing her fight more, but then again, I'd also like to see Hinata fight. Dunno what it is with me and girls who fight with their fists, but there's a certain allure to it.

[Eurell]

Yeah, Sakura isn't half as weak as people make her out to be. She's utterly useless when sasuke is around, thats true enough, but she has proven to be stronger than most ninja in the village a few times. She's helped take down akatski, she beat the fuck out of a summon or 2 that a bunch of anbu were struggling with, this is impressive stuff. But she definitely hasn't improved nearly as much as Naruto and Sasuke since the start of part 2, and in a fight with powerhouses like that, she would most likely be useless as much more than support.

TL;DR She's still 346876547236875326987x better than tenten lol

[Ratatapa]

and Ino which is imo useless without Shikamaru and Chouji

[Uzor]

To be fair, Sakura is one of the most capable medics the Leaf has. What's killing an enemy when you can prevent the death of your allies? They do, after all, always send a medic with every team for that very reason. So Naruto cold run around and kill the enemies, while Sakura provides defensive back up. And if Naruto gets hurt, poisoned or otherwise incapacitated, Sakura can nurse him back to health, rather than leaving him for dead.

Loom at the Kage fight; they wouldn't be in the condition they are in if they hadn't had the hokage there to heal them. Hell; they wouldn't even have got there in time.

[Kobb]

Ino has at least been shown to be improving her skills with her mind possession. She's supposedly not as great a medic as Sakura but she can inhabit two people at once and curve her mind technique to hit multiple people instead of going in a straight line like it used to. Sakura on the other hand is still doing what she has since the beginning of Shippuuden.

[Eurell]

Has Ino not been able to do that since part 2 started? I honestly don't remember what she's done in any of her fights lol

[Kobb]

Has Ino not been able to do that since part 2 started? I honestly don't remember what she's done in any of her fights lol

It was shown during the war arc. Who knows?

[Haiko]

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-new...11-manga-sales

[Souj]

Full Metal Alchemist was finished in 2010 but still made #21 in sales for 2011?
I miss FMA :/

[Sunrider]

Sakura on the other hand is still doing what she has since the beginning of Shippuuden.

Well, she was trained by Tsunade, who was the final word in medical knowledge, so she kind of started Shippuuden at the top. It's kind of hard to improve much more form there.

[arus2001]

Or really deviating from a hulk smash fist. Maybe she could develop a healing punch or something silly like that, but short of developing generic nin/genjutsu, upping her taijutsu might be more appropriate. And, well, I'd expect Lee to always be king there.