Naruto

**Eurell** · 2012-03-23 10:44

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**KCem** · 2012-03-23 12:18

Originally Posted by Eurell

I know Naruto had trees and shit growing around him when he first got his 9tails cloak or w/e, but I'm still convinced the reason the zetsu's are turning into trees is because they can't control the 1st's chakra anymore after they take so much damage, much like when Danzo's arm turned into a tree and he had to rip it off.

Thousands of Zetsu's have been beaten to death since the war began. The only ones to turn into trees are the ones that were curb-stomped by 9tails mode Naruto. I'm sure I recall it being implied that the 9tails chakra has some sort of purification effect that goes hand in hand with Naruto's ability to sense animosity, but I can't be bothered to look for it.

**Eurell** · 2012-03-23 12:52

Originally Posted by KCem

Thousands of Zetsu's have been beaten to death since the war began. The only ones to turn into trees are the ones that were curb-stomped by 9tails mode Naruto. I'm sure I recall it being implied that the 9tails chakra has some sort of purification effect that goes hand in hand with Naruto's ability to sense animosity, but I can't be bothered to look for it.

good point. IDK wtf then lol

**Serif** · 2012-03-24 08:43

Possibly what could happen is Naruto lands the killing blow on Tobi and then in turn he transforms into a tree, seeing how he possess some of Hashirama's DNA.

Could turn up the same as Tobi and the 4th but when Naruto hits him like the 4th did it does this reaction.

I could also be completely wrong but seeing what happens when Naruto hits with the intent to kill the people, those who have Hashirama's DNA, turn into trees I think it is a valid theory.

If this happens though, I would imagine Naruto is rushed to the Kage fight and in turn tries to land the blow on Madara but he indeed trolls and is like, those peons do not have the same control over Hashirama's DNA as I do.

**Ayn** · 2012-03-24 10:52

Naruto hits Madara intent on landing a killing blow, via Rasengan or Tailed Beast Bomb.

The Kages think Madara's finally gone.

Madara emerges once again, similar to the last time the Kage's almost killed him, his armor's damaged and cracked. However, the Hashirama face on his body has now changed in expression. The Kages think that while he's not completely down, they've finally done some real damage.

Close-up shows that Hashirama's face has turned into a trollface.

Madara makes a quote similar to what Serif noted above.

... Shut up, I can dream.

**Tymon** · 2012-03-24 13:43

Originally Posted by Ayn

Naruto hits Madara intent on landing a killing blow, via Rasengan or Tailed Beast Bomb.

The Kages think Madara's finally gone.

Madara emerges once again, similar to the last time the Kage's almost killed him, his armor's damaged and cracked. However, the Hashirama face on his body has now changed in expression. The Kages think that while he's not completely down, they've finally done some real damage.

Close-up shows that Hashirama's face has turned into a trollface.

Madara makes a quote similar to what Serif noted above.

... Shut up, I can dream.

"I see you've managed to take total control over the Kyuubi and blend it's full power with your own. Such powers could destroy continents with ease. It is unfortunate that it has taken you this long to master one of Hashirama's basic, entry level techniques. By the way, did I mention that Hashirama was immortal, destroyed galaxies in his sleep, and had a 15 inch penis?"

**Vaspinne** · 2012-03-24 14:56

Originally Posted by Tymon

"I see you've managed to take total control over the Kyuubi and blend it's full power with your own. Such powers could destroy continents with ease. It is unfortunate that it has taken you this long to master one of Hashirama's basic, entry level techniques. By the way, did I mention that Hashirama was immortal, destroyed galaxies in his sleep, and had a 15 inch penis?"

"His tree drill was the tree drill that pierced the heavens. He believed in him who believed in himself. Believe it!"

**Odin'sLaw** · 2012-03-24 20:20

Originally Posted by Tymon

"had a 15 inch penis?"

and that was around right? can't ignore the girth people

**Souj** · 2012-03-25 21:35

So Kabuto's a big bad dangerous guy now, but I'm currently watching some old Naruto episodes, and there is at least one thing we can thank Kabuto for.

Spoiler: show

**arus2001** · 2012-03-25 21:38

We must spread that jutsu throughout the land. Now.

**Souj** · 2012-03-25 21:46

also lol@ the message of the Naruto v Neji conflict in retrospect with Naruto preaching about birth not mattering when pretty much all his accomplishments are due to his bloodline and being born to the 4th Hokage and his all that entailed.

**Deftscythe** · 2012-03-25 23:22

Originally Posted by Souj

also lol@ the message of the Naruto v Neji conflict in retrospect with Naruto preaching about birth not mattering when pretty much all his accomplishments are due to his bloodline and being born to the 4th Hokage and his all that entailed.

I disagree. Yes, being the son of the 4th probably means that Naruto always had huge potential, but if you think back to the beginning of the manga, he was an idiot in terms of technique. Everything he's learned has been through hard work and abusing the combination of clones and 9-tails chakra. Now, imagine if he wasn't a jinchuriki, or if Kakashi hadn't figured out how Naruto could learn at an accelerated rate because of it. Naruto would probably still be under that waterfall trying to learn how to use Rasengan.

On an even more basic level, throughout the manga we've been shown how much isolation and scorn jinchuriki have to deal with, and we've seen different ways the hosts themselves deal with it. It would've been very easy for Naruto to give up on any ambitions and accept the outcast status the rest of the village tried to force on him. Instead he just decided to try that much harder.

**Charismatic** · 2012-03-26 02:07

Originally Posted by arus2001

We must spread that jutsu throughout the land. Now.

Hinata actually already had pretty big knockers at that time. For her age/size anyway.

**arus2001** · 2012-03-26 05:57

I know I've said it before, but I feel like her chest size has been more a fan emphasis. Best we saw of her was nekkid practice tiem in vanilla Naruto filler and I'd hardly call her huge. That baggy coat of hers is deceptive.

**Gredival** · 2012-03-26 16:23

Originally Posted by Deftscythe

I disagree. Yes, being the son of the 4th probably means that Naruto always had huge potential, but if you think back to the beginning of the manga, he was an idiot in terms of technique. Everything he's learned has been through hard work and abusing the combination of clones and 9-tails chakra. Now, imagine if he wasn't a jinchuriki, or if Kakashi hadn't figured out how Naruto could learn at an accelerated rate because of it. Naruto would probably still be under that waterfall trying to learn how to use Rasengan.

I get the sense that Naruto has tremendous chakra, even without tapping Nine-Tails chakra (now explained as a result of Uzumaki blood). That is natural talent of the type Neji talked about. And even if it's a result of the fox, can't you say that Naruto getting the fox made him one of those fated to be a kage? Just like you say, without the fox he'd be nothing.

Neji's point was that there are only a few who could ever ascend to be a kage. Naruto is privileged, just like Sasuke, by inheriting the Nine-Tails and the vitality of the Uzumaki clan. That is perfectly consistent with the Neji philosophy that you can't work yourself past certain limits. I mean obviously Hinata wasn't born to be a kage ever.

**Tymon** · 2012-03-26 16:55

Naruto would still be strong as hell eventually, regardless of the Kyuubi.

He has insane chakra reserves. Maybe the most of any normal human.

Remember when Jiraiya decided to drain out all of Naruto's chakra to get the Kyuubi to take over?

He had to spam tons of shadow clones for hours. A jonin technique. Kakashi can barely handle more than a couple at a time without using up all of his chakra, and Kakashi, regardless of all of the "I ran out of chakra, back in 20 chapters" moments he's had, has above-average chakra reserves.

Naruto's a beast.

**Odin'sLaw** · 2012-03-26 17:22

not sure why you everyone keeps saying the fox is helping/helped naruto, if he never had the fox inside of him he'd have been much closer to been the 7th hokage (i'm going to count danzo as the 6th but its a nice grey area) i'm 99.9% sure naruto was so terrible at school due to people hating him and the fox fighting his normal chakra, naruto would have made Sasuke his bitch at school more then likely know how to do a 1 handed rasengan and know both his elements (wind and i'm saying water due to the Uzumaki clan coming from the village hidden in the whirlpool) plus any sealing style jutsu he could get his hands on, but we got this naruto who by no mean feat is an ass kicking beast slaying friendship loving bad ass

p.s yay naruto

**Souj** · 2012-03-26 17:24

@tymon
you do realize youre post goes against your views right? large chakra reserves is something you cannot train to acquire. you're born with that kind of thing.
also, if naruto didn't have the 9-tails in him, I'd be pretty sure he definitely would not have been so motivated to get stronger and wouldn't have his dream of being hokage if he wasn't singled out and left alone his whole life, which he wouldn't have if he didn't have 9-tails.

**Tymon** · 2012-03-26 17:58

Originally Posted by Souj

@tymon
you do realize youre post goes against your views right? large chakra reserves is something you cannot train to acquire. you're born with that kind of thing.
also, if naruto didn't have the 9-tails in him, I'd be pretty sure he definitely would not have been so motivated to get stronger and wouldn't have his dream of being hokage if he wasn't singled out and left alone his whole life, which he wouldn't have if he didn't have 9-tails.

I never claimed he was having to train to get it. He's probably more elite and special than Sasuke is.

If he wasn't the Kyuubi's jinchuuriki he probably would have been raised by Jiraiya personally or by Hiruzen.. who knows/

Conjecture, means nothing. My previous post means nothing either, since neither are the story.

**Surealistic** · 2012-03-26 18:23

if he wasnt the jinchuuriki, then his parents most likely wouldnt be dead, and he would have been raised by the 4th and his mom, he would have been beast mode from day 1 instead of the way it was

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