Naruto

**Lucavi** · 2012-04-04 09:06

True, but Sasuke is a deluded fool if he thinks that he'll ever be able to find a place or create a place that doesn't have some dark history to it. This is humanity, and humanity isn't always that pretty. Konoha was founded on bloodshed; essentially one clan forcing another clan into "peace" and starting a village. I can understand him being angry, and I can understand him wanting to kill the old guard; the top brass, but burning an entire village? Killing innocent children who know no better? He'd be better off killing the top brass than developing a jutsu that allows for recordings, so he can show everyone exactly what happened, and encourage them not to allow it to be repeated in the future.

Its all talk, though. This is a shounen for little Japanese boys, and Kishi has to have a villain. I'm just dissapointed in how someone goes from "damn, that's fucked up" to "BURN ALL THE PEOPLES AND I'LL DO IT BETTER MYSELF".

**blindSharingan** · 2012-04-04 09:29

Originally Posted by Lucavi

Sasuke is a deluded fool if he thinks that he'll ever be able to find a place or create a place that doesn't have some dark history to it.

His goal is simply revenge I don't think he's ever expressed any desire to create a village founded without any dark history to it.

I agree the "top brass" should be his focus over the entire village. Although excluding most of the main/support characters most of the Leaf villagers have proven to be retarded pricks. Just look at how they treated Naruto.

**Khajit** · 2012-04-04 10:27

Originally Posted by Ayn

The scene in that restaurant does make Sasuke's FUCK THE LEAF mode seem more viable, though.

And I'm just imagining Kabuto with a lollipop in his hand saying "Come join me Dr Snakes. I have a Tootsie pop..."

Fixed for you.
And did the sharringan REALLY need yet another cheap move added to it's repertoire?

**Souj** · 2012-04-04 10:32

In this world of ninja, how is it two people can come into a town dressed in large black cloaks that cover their heads and faces just sit down and not be asked questions?

**Zilong** · 2012-04-04 10:33

because it is a world of ninja?

**Souj** · 2012-04-04 10:41

Yes, a world in which apparently 90% of the population is dedicated to a career that involves being sneaky and deceiving and to infiltrate stuff.

**Zilong** · 2012-04-04 10:47

Beside, they both had sharingan, for all you know they already genjutsu'd the entire bar to not notice them!

**Damane** · 2012-04-04 10:51

Originally Posted by Khajit

Fixed for you.
And did the sharringan REALLY need yet another cheap move added to it's repertoire?

its the sharingang what did you expect... That Eye-Technique has seriously jumped the shark long time ago, I cant take this new technique serious lol. Everytime Kishi writes himself to a wall he just invents a new Sharingan eye technique... Shits so much focused aroudn sharingans and kyubis its not even funny. I rather see some good Byakugan evolution, new techniques involving good chakra control etc etc. with a weak point in it.

**Xno Kappa** · 2012-04-04 10:59

Sasuke: Are you talking about Izanagi big brother!?
Itachi: Nah, my sharingan has an even better app!

**Souj** · 2012-04-04 11:11

Originally Posted by Damane

etc etc. with a weak point in it.

But this new technique has a weakness! It puts such a toll on the body that the user will end up being killed!

That's my bet anyways.

**Tymon** · 2012-04-04 12:05

Not like that matters, Itachi is immortal.

**Tsuneo** · 2012-04-04 12:47

It makes me wonder if Izanagi and Izanami together would be the equivalent of Rikudo's Creation of All Things.

**Souj** · 2012-04-04 13:05

Originally Posted by Tymon

Not like that matters, Itachi is immortal.

that was my point
I'm gonna assume that;
The ability overwhelms Kabuto and he starts to lose. Right when Kabuto is about to get captured/die, he releases Edo Tensai to unsummon Itachi, which also unsummons Madara and dust tsuchikage dude.
Assuming Itachi is still affected by the logistics of Edo Tensai.

**Deadgye** · 2012-04-04 13:08

Originally Posted by Tsuneo

It makes me wonder if Izanagi and Izanami together would be the equivalent of Rikudo's Creation of All Things.

I'm willing to bet it is. One could probably even create a copy of the planet, with copies of everyone on it, and change their destiny too.

Spoiler: show

**Zilong** · 2012-04-04 13:43

http://peterburd.files.wordpress.com...darker12-1.jpg

Izanagi? IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE NOW

**Tymon** · 2012-04-04 14:58

Originally Posted by Deadgye

I'm willing to bet it is. One could probably even create a copy of the planet, with copies of everyone on it, and change their destiny too.

Spoiler: show

So Naruto is going to end on a cliffhanger that never gets explained?

Sounds great

**Maguspk** · 2012-04-04 16:46

Originally Posted by Zilong

http://peterburd.files.wordpress.com...darker12-1.jpg

Izanagi? IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE NOW

I always think DtB2 as well since it was the first time I saw the Izanami/Izanagi reference.

This chapter sucks, I have a strong feeling Sasuke will get possessed/taken over by Kabuto.

**Sunrider** · 2012-04-04 20:25

My first Izanagi/Izanami reference was from... a history book.

I was worth fuck-all in American history, but top class in world studies.

**orson** · 2012-04-04 20:56

Originally Posted by Tymon

So Naruto is going to end on a cliffhanger that never gets explained?

Sounds great

It'll be Evangeline all over again. XD

**Salodin** · 2012-04-05 08:23

Chapter was awesome imo. Finally more understandable back story to sasuke and kabuto's motivation for what they're doing. The bar scene with Tobi and Sasuke was great. Also, if they're in a bar while it's raining, wouldn't it be understandable to have cloaks on like that? I know you guys are joking but still...lol.

Izanami eh... I'll wait and reserve judgement. Another eye-hax, but at this point fodder ninja (and techniques) are useless, and pretty soon I'm gonna include the original Konoha 9 in with them (excluding naruto and sasuke of course). Hey guys, remember when Chouji said "This war ends now"? Fucking useless fatty...

I don't know what's hard to understand about the lack of drawn out fights using different techniques though, early in the show we knew nothing of the world, the ninja, or the techniques in it. That made it awesome to watch low level ninja using low level techniques, with different strategies. Now however, it's impossible to have the same characters using new techniques and strategies to defeat new foes every arc with out some kind of equally long and boring power up session. This is why the Zombie Duo fight was so awesome, since we got to see Kakashi, Ino, Shikamaru, and Chouji do the fighting before naruto showed up to end it (like he should, as the main character and all). While we saw Kakashi do nothing new (predictably, and my point), the other three showed off some awesome stuff that made for an interesting fight if only because we haven't seen them in literally half a decade.

It was said during the Chuunin exam, that once a ninja reveals all his tricks, he's dead. If you reveal your techniques, you either need to kill them or just die, cause you won't make it much longer. That's the feeling I get with this manga now, every one only has their usual kickpunch moves, but then they need to pull something new out of their ass in order to win the fight. If not, they'll either just die, or bore us to death. Just look at Susanno, shit is cash, but it's on the back burner now after just 1 1/2 fights. Look at Kabuto, dude was always a bad muthafucker, and he got a Jiraiya level power up just to compete with his next opponent. They can't just rely on secret strategies, cause then we'll complain that "Oh he used that strategy already, how boring" or their opponent will just see through it since that's all they do, and kill them for being a one trick pony.

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