They both had their personalities before Orochimaru sealed them. Do we know for sure they couldn't move, or is this just yet another plothole?
Also, why didn't Orchimaru become immortal via this method?
They both had their personalities before Orochimaru sealed them. Do we know for sure they couldn't move, or is this just yet another plothole?
Also, why didn't Orchimaru become immortal via this method?
Probably because he wouldn't consider it until he landed in an Uchiha body anyway due to his fascination with it.
And the Hokages didn't really have alot of active time until their emotions were removed in that fight, I doubt the 2nd had time to do this, and even then despite creating the jutsu literally everyone else seems to have surpassed him with it so it's possible he didn't even know of this risk.
answers for most of the questions;
The Second Hokage didn't do this because he was under Orochimaru's control the moment he was summoned. Yes Orochimaru had to remove their emotions, but he had full control of them. They were just able to vocalize their dislikes and feelings. Orochimaru basically made them mindless puppets, not puppets with awareness.
Madara was not killed during the fight with the 1st Hokage. No idea how long after it was he died and who knows how long ago 2nd Hokage had created Edo Tensai, but it can easily fit the in the right time table
Madara didn't use the release seal when he was first summoned because why? So he could continue doing the exact same thing he was currently doing?
Tsunada's ghost friend guy probably didn't use that ghost possession jutsu before he was controlled could be several reasons. One probably being that it would leave his body unguarded and he wasnt sure where/what was going on at the time or maybe he was scared that once he possessed Tsunade he might get controlled by Kabuto and then fuck over Tsunade.
Orochimaru didn't use the technique because he would have to die and then hope someone would actually use Edo Tensai on him, which maybe Kabuto would have done. Maybe.
I honestly doubt Kabuto would have summoned Madara if he had known about the possibility of Madara releasing himself. How does Madara know so much about Edo Tensei? It was stated that Kabuto's Edo Tensei was better than Tobirama's, so I don't know if he knew more than Tobirama or if it was just better.
The rinnegan does give a ridiculous amount of insight into how jutsus work which is why the sage was able to invent ninjutsu itself. It's also entirely possible he saw Kabuto summoning more people and analyzed it with his sharringan. It's not different from looking at the blueprints/rulebook of something and figuring out the flaws/loopholes.
I think Tobi (fake Madara) wont be so pleased if he finds out that real Madara has been put of the chains lol. Wasnt Tobi very surprised and unpleased when Kabutochimaru showed him Madara?
There was multiple implications from that. The first one being that it proved that Tobi was in fact not who he claimed to be. Secondly, I'm sure he realized that if he pissed off Kabuto, Madara would rape the shit out of him. I don't know if he has a problem with Madara being back otherwise.
Hmm, I don't think the chapter is actually that complicated. Recall that when edo tensei'ed individuals resolved their issues w/ the living, their souls would leave the body. Their summoning contract was still in place, yet they were able to bypass it and return to...w/e the spirit world is I guess. Then if you look at the panels with Madara, he has a black exclamation point as he's hovering above the body, then you see him aligned with the deteriorating body w/ the pieces being reconstructed. Then he gets fancy and releases the summoning contract entirely in the last panel.
Summary: Madara's own will and desire to stay and fuck bitches up is what allowed him to re-materialize (think of him like ghosts: spirits with unresolved issues that stick around (according to hippies)). So the soul + body is one "jutsu" and the contract of the body-to-kabuto is a separate "jutsu" and both are lumped together and called "Edo Tensei". Thus why despite having free will, he still seeks to release the contract (to prevent future control I guess).
Wow, Madara just keeps taking his level of Troll up and up and up, hahaha.
Who cares? Them niggas are fucked, lmao
what an excellent chapter. Naruto and the Sauce have a hell of a fight on their hands, haha
Madara has now surpassed the Aizen level of trolling
Madara puts the classiness back into trolling.
Called it 2 weeks a month ago.
No fucks given.
Thank You Based Madara!
Now the other 4 Kage gonna be put on near death status, while old man Tsu gonna die after trying the most epic tactic niggas have ever seen. Just in time, Naruto and Sasuke will rejoin, along with Tobi. Tobi gives side story on how Madara is his brother, and the three of them will team up to pwn Madara.
I'm excited, really hope Sasuke and Naruto team up to pwn this bitch.
I don't see how the two of them can do anything. Unless, Sasuke pulls some Izanami bullshit, but I'd rather them win some other way.
When's the last time they teamed up and fought together? Was it against Haku back in like chapter 20? Yeah, we're fucking due.
I really think the Hokages will resolve the Madara issue on their own.
But I assume Sasuke and Naruto will team up on someone sooner or later. As cliche as it would be.
I'm guessing they'll team up against some crazy final form of Tobi and beat him but then they would have almost no chakra left. and then Sasuke and Naruto will fight with barely any chakra, just a straight up fistfight beatdown.
Yeah, I will say, this is probably one of the only ways they can get Naruto and Sasuke to team up. Not sure what is going to happen with Tobi (Naruto might beat him now, or he might team up for either a 3 v Madara or 2 v 2) but I'm betting Naruto and Sasuke team up, beat the odds and then a year later they meet up at the valley of the end for the final Naruto v Sasuke showdown.