Naruto

**Deathbringer** · 2012-08-12 00:11

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v60/c597/

**Souj** · 2012-08-12 00:22

Bleh, more than half the chapter wasted describing something that I thought was pretty evident by the end of last chapter.

**Lucavi** · 2012-08-12 01:09

Oh lawd... Kakashi has one eye from Obito, who somehow had a nasty bloodline limit connected to another dimension... why didn't any of us pick up on this sooner? Holy shit. Slap my face with the goddamn hammer of obviousness...

Clearly he isn't Obito, as the ages don't match up, but goddamn, for this guy to be everywhere and have his nose in everything... he had to have taken that eye sometime shortly after Obito's death. Was he there, watching? That just seems all too convenient, however cool this realization is.

What kind of a freak is this Tobi guy to take an eye from a dead Uchiha and somehow turn it into this "I can use it all the time" hax ability, while Kakashi scrapes and struggles to use his a few times a day. We all know he's got the stamina of a low-rate stunt cock, but still, Tobi has some absurdly high chakra. I almost want to think that he's got a bunch of fucking generators or some shit in his pocket dimension that he's feeding off of for juice.

**RedRed** · 2012-08-12 01:18

Starting to wonder if Tobi is an edo tensei

**Lucavi** · 2012-08-12 01:26

He sure feasts on people parts like a goddamn zombie.

**Salodin** · 2012-08-12 01:31

Originally Posted by RedRed

Starting to wonder if Tobi is an edo tensei

He's not, cause he doesn't have unlimited chakra. They say this when he had the jinchuuruki with rinnegans, and wasn't using the 6 path techniques cause he wanted to conserve chakra.

His immense chakra is probably zetsu related though, there's no other explanation other then "dude has a lot of chakra", which is just plain silly.

**Damane** · 2012-08-12 01:45

Originally Posted by Lucavi

Oh lawd... Kakashi has one eye from Obito, who somehow had a nasty bloodline limit connected to another dimension... why didn't any of us pick up on this sooner? Holy shit. Slap my face with the goddamn hammer of obviousness...

Clearly he isn't Obito, as the ages don't match up, but goddamn, for this guy to be everywhere and have his nose in everything... he had to have taken that eye sometime shortly after Obito's death. Was he there, watching? That just seems all too convenient, however cool this realization is.

What kind of a freak is this Tobi guy to take an eye from a dead Uchiha and somehow turn it into this "I can use it all the time" hax ability, while Kakashi scrapes and struggles to use his a few times a day. We all know he's got the stamina of a low-rate stunt cock, but still, Tobi has some absurdly high chakra. I almost want to think that he's got a bunch of fucking generators or some shit in his pocket dimension that he's feeding off of for juice.

Well Tobi seems to know Kakashi from the past. But who was he? Did Kakashi meet him during the great war where obito died? I'm confused

**Rhyis.** · 2012-08-12 01:50

Izuna stealin' motherfuckers eyes. Reason he knows Kakashi is simple. He's been keeping track of the non-Uchiha walking around with an Uchiha eye. Shit would be like sacrilege to him. Tobi hates everybody that doesn't share his blood line.

**arus2001** · 2012-08-12 02:01

Could maybe backtrack to the gaiden to see if there was some ninja among those that seemingly survived, but that'd still be pretty fucking vague since whomever would've had Zetsu arms not long after and gave the fourth a run.

**Tymon** · 2012-08-12 02:36

Seven years later

Link is saving Hyrule, and it's still fucking Obito.

**Akiyama** · 2012-08-12 02:50

Spoiler: show

**DrClout** · 2012-08-12 04:27

Originally Posted by Lucavi

What kind of a freak is this Tobi guy to take an eye from a dead Uchiha and somehow turn it into this "I can use it all the time" hax ability, while Kakashi scrapes and struggles to use his a few times a day.

Kakashi's charkra limitations are only shown when he's using his M. Sharingan. Need proof, simply refer to the Pein Arc. He said it in plain English/Japanese/whatever language you read it in.

About whom this is, it can still be anyone. Both Kakashi and Guy are WELL known and feared ninja. They've fought in the previous war and earned their own reputations and names during it. It wouldn't be out of place to have intel on their characteristics and personalities.

I'd also go as far as saying people from the previous war (aka before the Uchiha Clan was wiped out) were going around stealing eyes where ever they could. The sensor type guy from the Hokage meeting stole an eye from Neji's Clan (said he got it as a souvenir from his fight). My money is it being Izuna with some Zetzu mixed in for good chakra stabilizing measure.

As a side note, does anyone consider this a better step than what the 4th Hokage did? The 4th outwitted Tobi by sheer tactic however Kakashi used simple observation. And yeah, although I hate the overly explained things, it needs to be done to take out ANY speculation that comes up. All of us here are well acquainted with speculation >_>'

**Deadgye** · 2012-08-12 04:28

Originally Posted by Lucavi

What kind of a freak is this Tobi guy to take an eye from a dead Uchiha and somehow turn it into this "I can use it all the time" hax ability, while Kakashi scrapes and struggles to use his a few times a day. We all know he's got the stamina of a low-rate stunt cock, but still, Tobi has some absurdly high chakra. I almost want to think that he's got a bunch of fucking generators or some shit in his pocket dimension that he's feeding off of for juice.

It's because Kakashi isn't an Uchiha, while Tobi is. He also does high a high chakra pool though, that most likely comes from being part zetzu/first hokage or whatever.

**RedRed** · 2012-08-12 04:37

Originally Posted by Deadgye

It's because Kakashi isn't an Uchiha, while Tobi is. He also does high a high chakra pool though, that most likely comes from being part zetzu/first hokage or whatever.

If Tobi just stole Obito's eye, then he may not be an Uchiha at all.

**DrClout** · 2012-08-12 04:41

Someone once said. . . Uchiha eyes come a dime a dozen at Walmart. Could. Be. Anyone.

**vadre** · 2012-08-12 04:57

Also, as shown by the koto ametsasidbaiodba thing from Shisui, having uchiha + senju chakra or dna or whatever lets you do unusual things with uchiha abilities. Could be that his heavily adapted body (or so it seems) lets him do things like use it constantly.

Honestly though, all this transplantin' makes me wonder why Oro didn't just gouge sasuke's eyes out and be done with it.

**Deadgye** · 2012-08-12 05:55

Originally Posted by RedRed

If Tobi just stole Obito's eye, then he may not be an Uchiha at all.

Given his proficiency at using it, his proficiency at using Izanagi, and him having a Rinnegan now, he's more likely to be an Uchiha than he is to not be one.

**vadre** · 2012-08-12 06:57

It's difficult to apply logic based on other characters however, being as kabuto managed to steal a bajillion kekkei genkai and nagato was great with the rinnegan (which tobi claimed to give him).

**Uzor** · 2012-08-12 08:04

I'm still sticking by my theory I proposed like a year ago that Tobi is a Senju/Uchiha mix as a result of Madara's experimentation. I was right about Obito, but that was rather obvious.

**Tajin** · 2012-08-12 09:29

Tobi having obito eye means uchiha eyes have no limit once removed from the original body? Because at first it was 'only a select few have sharingan'. And now im pretty sure kakashi could fart meteors like madara if he had the chakra.

As coincidences go tobi / obito / kakashi is a terrible plotjutsu IMO

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