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    Possibly when an Uchiha eye is transferred to another Uchiha the Mangekyou doesn't become blind, while an Uchiha eye transferred to a non-Uchiha can still become blind?

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    Even though not a lot of action, this was still an amazing chapter info wise. Also last few pages makes me wet

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    More of this Obito crap...

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    Well he's a character that apparently knows his shit well

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    This chapter though, it helps my own belief even more that Tobi isn't a Uchiha at all in the normal sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadgye View Post
    It's because Kakashi isn't an Uchiha, while Tobi is. He also does high a high chakra pool though, that most likely comes from being part zetzu/first hokage or whatever.
    Not what I'm talking about. Kakashi has low stamina in general. He ran out of gas during Zabuza, and again, for a guy that knows hundreds of jutsu, we see him use all of 3 - mainly his own creations involving lightning - and never any clones unless its a rare raiton bunshin. Kakashi has low stamina, period, regardless of whether he's using MS. This is despite him saying he trained during the timeskip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucavi View Post
    Not what I'm talking about. Kakashi has low stamina in general. He ran out of gas during Zabuza, and again, for a guy that knows hundreds of jutsu, we see him use all of 3 - mainly his own creations involving lightning - and never any clones unless its a rare raiton bunshin. Kakashi has low stamina, period, regardless of whether he's using MS. This is despite him saying he trained during the timeskip.
    he has also stated that even when he "turns his eye off" (putting his headband over it) it still drains chakra slowly due to the fast its in perma Sharingan mode and can't deactivate it to a normal eye, also aren't all of his lightning moves B+ rating ninjutsu's? which would mean they still drain a ton of energy none the less, also called him stealing his eye

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    When I start seeing him spamming fire, wind, water, earth, and supplemental jutsu like its nobody's business, then I'll acknowledge that he still doesn't have piss-poor stamina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrClout View Post
    Kakashi's charkra limitations are only shown when he's using his M. Sharingan. Need proof, simply refer to the Pein Arc. He said it in plain English/Japanese/whatever language you read it in.
    The very first time we see he uses Sharingan against Zabuza he collapses from exhaustion after the battle and couldn't walk straight for a few days. And this was already when he had gained infamy in the ninja world as the Copy Ninja, well before Naruto's arc started, so it's easy to say he has chakra limitations to Sharingan use in general. Mangekyo just consumes alot more for what it does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleverness View Post
    The very first time we see he uses Sharingan against Zabuza he collapses from exhaustion after the battle and couldn't walk straight for a few days. And this was already when he had gained infamy in the ninja world as the Copy Ninja, well before Naruto's arc started, so it's easy to say he has chakra limitations to Sharingan use in general. Mangekyo just consumes alot more for what it does.
    and he is also still standing he's been fighting all day and has used 2+ kamui's and god knows how many Lightning style attacks during his win on the Seven swordsmen (i think Kakashi finally has chakra :/)

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    Was it ever explained whatever happened to Rin? Or whose grave's Kakashi visits often?

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    inc Rin got a sex change


    but Kakashi said in the Sasuke retrivial ark that Rin is dead (didnt said her name but still)

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    Isn't the grave Kakashi visits a generic grave dedicated to every ninja who died on a mission?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirokei Kiaza View Post
    This chapter though, it helps my own belief even more that Tobi isn't a Uchiha at all in the normal sense.
    normal sense as in like kakashi? If so, agreeing with this, he has only used (or only has) one real eye jutsu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin'sLaw View Post
    and he is also still standing he's been fighting all day and has used 2+ kamui's and god knows how many Lightning style attacks during his win on the Seven swordsmen (i think Kakashi finally has chakra :/)
    To build on that:
    *Fought the previous generations 7 swordsmen getting pinned down by Zabuza at least (and if I remember got pissed and DID WORK!)
    *Ran god knows how far to catch up to the real body of Naruto and Bee
    *Fought the ET'd Jinchuichi(sp?) in both regular and transformed modes
    *Popped off a few clones to save his and Gai's ass
    *Pop off more than 2 (which 2 was limit during Pein Arc (it killed his ass))
    *Go toe to toe with the current, reigning bad ass on the block

    Yeah. . . he still has low chakra.

    TL;DR: It's stupid to mention that one such as Kakashi has no room for improvement over the past several months(in the manga's universe). It's been a long ass day and he's been working his ass off. The smarter question is why the fuck hasn't Naruto died from Chakra exhaustion with all his clones and constant change from regular/senin/bujii

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrClout View Post
    The smarter question is why the fuck hasn't Naruto died from Chakra exhaustion with all his clones and constant change from regular/senin/bujii
    Sage mode is said to heal him while he's in it, no? Bujii mode should be the fox's chakra, not his own. And he's always been said to have a retarded amount of chakra reserves.

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    Which doesn't disprove that regular Sharingan use CAN drain his chakra since there is evidence of it. Yea he has obviously trained himself to hold more chakra to the point that he can now keep it up without much problem in long fights since the caliber of opponents he is facing has gone up(he holds Zabuza in high regard still skill wise, not many other people have been able to do hand signs with 1 hand in this series) to the point where he can't be able to rely on it for short bursts anymore.

    The fact that a powerful ninja like Kakashi who was strong enough to be considered as a Hokage replacement gets a chakra drain from several Kamui's while Madara can spam it nonstop means he has some ridiculous chakra reserves that while not infinite(someone referenced his comment on his chakra when using the 6 paths earlier) is a fucking lot.

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    I tend to liken Kakashi to a mage with a huge amount of MP but all his spells cost a fuckton amount of it.

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    Seriously why is Zabuza like the only person whose used 1 hand to do hand signs, you'd think someone else would have had the ability. Maybe do 2 jutsus at once.

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    The whole hand signs shit has been irrelevant for like 400 chapters now.

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