Naruto

[Abandon]

owned

[Sho]

lol I replace in a sec

EDIT: Done. Anyways, it shows something of a role reversal between Obito and Kakashi, if he is to be believed. Obito was one who always talked shit with no action. Now Tobito calls Kakashi out on the same thing, years later.

[Odin'sLaw]

lol I replace in a sec

EDIT: Done. Anyways, it shows something of a role reversal between Obito and Kakashi, if he is to be believed. Obito was one who always talked shit with no action. Now Tobito calls Kakashi out on the same thing, years later.

he told kakashi to always look after rin for him, well that bitch is now dead so....

[Sho]

he told kakashi to always look after rin for him, well that bitch is now dead so....

Why is always a [dead] useless bitch that causes villains to go mad in shounen? Swear to god.

[Ayn]

On the note of Obito not complaining about Chakra..

I don't think he's expressly complained about it, but didn't Kakashi or someone observe that he was doing something to conserve chakra because of the strain? I think it was letting the Jinchuriki run free or something, rather than controlling each individually?

Sorry, it's been a bit.

I'm not keen on the idea of Obito being able to go toe to toe with Minato (well, if you can call it that.. Minato still owned him), but I'm willing to go with the theory that Obito Lance Armstronged some shit up and got a boost?

Live strong.

...

Too soon?

[Odin'sLaw]

neil died not lance so....no? and they said he wasn't controling the jinchuiki's due to how much observation he'd have to put in controlling 7 mad ass chakra beasts

[Tajin]

About time for a new thread name. Kudos

[Serif]

Rin never died, she is behind Obito's angst!

On another note, did it ever say how she died? It is probably how Obito gained his HAX powers!

[SamanosukeShiva]

Rin never died, she is behind Obito's angst!

On another note, did it ever say how she died? It is probably how Obito gained his HAX powers!

rin = rinnegan, she revived obito, gave him her eyes before she died from the ressurection spell's side effect.

calling it

[Khajit]

This entire revalation makes no sense. Obito was the weakest uuchiha in the village. I know Sasuke getting all his upgrades is bullshit but using the people we've seen as an example it's just ridiculous that one of the worst at learning would suddenly master his eyes at the rate of super ultra geniuses. In a very short amount of years he had to(while half dead) learn the secrets of the sharringan, upgrade it without any help from other uuchiha, learn ALL the secret techniques, learn all the secrets so that he knew to get Senjuu DNA, infiltrate/takeover akatsuki, train up well enough to fight the 4th Hokage and live, take over the hidden mist village and have a reign of terror long enough to make it renowned for it's rites of passage, continue this long enough that Zabuza killing his whole class and causing them to have to abandon the practice was considered unusual, and probably a dozen other misc plotpoints I've forgotten.
There's at least 5+ years missing from this bloody timeline.

[Souj]

yeah, I'd have to say that the Tobi persona was not always Obito.
I was going to say maybe Obito has only been Tobi since the formation of Akatsuki, but Kisami recognized Tobi as the Mizukage, which means Obito was responsible for the Mist graduation death exams, which seems at extreme odds for a person who seems to want to bring peace to the whole world. Peace came from no one being in control of their own mind, but peace none the less.
Obito being half Zetsu (whatever zetsu is) could also be what let him be able to act like crazy foolish joking Tobi if it gave him a second personality. I can't see someone like the serious Tobi acting like Foolish Tobi no matter how convincing a disguise it is. Though most likely he has no other personality and his other foolish persona wont be brought up ever again.

As said before, There needs to be a shit load of explanation, which sadly I don't think we'll get for quite awhile.

[dorkkaos]

Long hair and short Tobi? He's only using kamui over and over again? Obito was supposed to be dead? Obviously it's Tobi in multiple bodies like Pain!!!

[ronin sparthos]

Still sticking with my hunch that Kishi tossed out this Tobi = Obito mess as a red herring for a larger reveal.

Zetsu, I'm looking at you.

[AvidLoki]

I miss jokester Tobi

[Ayn]

neil died not lance so....no?

Referencing more to the recent news involving Lance (though R.I.P. Neil)

I miss jokester Tobi too.

And short time Obito's been "dead"? Come on, he's been "dead" like what, 13 years? that's like a fucking century in shonen manga.

[Tajin]

Time to over-analyze the manga!
Even Minato has high praise for a bitch nigga, like wtf
http://i33.mangareader.net/naruto/50...to-1436798.jpg

[Draggy]

I am so glad I just read Naruto these days because I apparently cannot quit it, and not because I actually care about the storyline. Lol.

[Lucavi]

Still sticking with my hunch that Kishi tossed out this Tobi = Obito mess as a red herring from a larger reveal.

Zetsu, I'm looking at you.

I was thinking that "Tobito" was Tobi posessed somehow by whatever the fuck black zetsu is, or something along those lines; possibly a mass of uchiha souls fused together or something by crazy jutsu spells and senju chakra, all acting under a single purpose while posessing the collective intellect and memories of each soul?

Yeah, crazy, but that's what crazy plotholes-for-the-current-moment-in-time writing will do to a man. I know Kishi will wrap this all up nicely in about a year or so, but goddammit, right now everything feels wonky.

Jokester Tobi seems like a throwback to the loonier days of his Obito memories; a way for him to possibly experience some of the childhood he never really had since he was always bitching with Kakashi and training in a warring generation?

[Rhyis.]

Fuck it, it's still Izuna. It's the only shit that makes sense and isn't lame.

[Salodin]

Obito did have chakra problems when he was using the 7 jinchuuruki, that's why he didn't use the 6 paths with them, only shared vision.