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    Re: Naruto is back!

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    [Love how the weaker characters become ten thousand times stronger, but the stronger characters don't grow in strength at all.
    Well I don't see kakashi going off to train with Jiraiya or Tsunade or anything. Only the kids have, the 3 kids that were kakashi's students all trained with Sannin for 3 years. I would compare Sakura to kakashi, she's the only one without any bloodline just like him, but he has a half-boost.
    Itachi also beat Orochimaru years ago with ease, whereas Sasuke states that he only beat him because Oro was weakened.

    And now Sasuke is holding his own against Itachi.

    Makes perfect sense.
    ohi, look at me I'm Sasuke Uchiha. Ya I would have never been able to destroy Orochimaru's dimension had he been at full health but owait, I'm doing exactly that to Itachi's Tsukuyomi and he's perfectly fine. ladedada sometimes this manga makes no fucking sense at all.

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    Re: Naruto is back!

    You can't really rule out the possibility that Sasuke actually learned shit while under Orochimaru's hand. I mean, you gotta figure there was a reason why he wanted the body of a Sharingan user, and it's more than possible Sasuke realized the very reason for that desire during his training. Combine that knowledge with who knows what all he'd literally assimilated from him when Orochimaru finally decided to try and take over, and I'm not really surprised Itachi's "old hat" tricks didn't do much.

    I personally don't recall Orochimaru getting his hand lopped off (Not that Oro's physical body taking damage really seems to matter much when he can barf up a new form), but if Itachi used Tsukiyomi to give himself the opening, it'd indirectly have Sasuke experiencing it twice. Besides, if Deidara could somehow do Sharingan resistance training, everyone else in the Narutoverse should arguably have the ability outside of it being some kind of weird bloodline limit he may've had, however unlikely.

    If anything else, the conceit of genius could be a contributing factor. See Naruto vs Neji for that one.

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    Re: Naruto is back!

    This is what I got out of this chapter: A stone can beat a shuriken depending on the skill difference between who tossed what, but can a pebble beat a cannonball? It can if it's Uchiha Sasuke. :D

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    Re: Naruto is back!

    God, this is really going to bother me if Sasuke comes out on top.

    There's just been too much of a difference for their entire lives. You can't even say Sasuke has had more potential because Itachi was the one graduating early, becoming the youngest ANBU captain, and slaughtering his fucking clan while he was like 10.

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    Re: Naruto is back!

    Quote Originally Posted by Krye
    God, this is really going to bother me if Sasuke comes out on top.

    There's just been too much of a difference for their entire lives. You can't even say Sasuke has had more potential because Itachi was the one graduating early, becoming the youngest ANBU captain, and slaughtering his fucking clan while he was like 10.
    People need to stop crying about this already.

    It's fucking obvious Sasuke won't win, his character balances on Itachi's being alive. Someone said it earlier in the thread, and it's still true now. God...just because he wasn't totally annihilated by one jutsu everybody is fucking throwing a shit fit. Omg, it's a good battle so far, go cry more. Not necessarily aimed at you Kyre but everybody who is freaking out over a battle that doesn't even really seem started yet.

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    Re: Naruto is back!

    Except his character doesn't hinge on Itachi's existence anymore.

    IIRC, his new goal is to take out the Akatsuki, and some kind of stupid fucking plot twist where he kills Itachi and ends up with the MS would surely help him with that.

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    Re: Naruto is back!

    Quote Originally Posted by Krye
    Except his character doesn't hinge on Itachi's existence anymore.

    IIRC, his new goal is to take out the Akatsuki, and some kind of stupid fucking plot twist where he kills Itachi and ends up with the MS would surely help him with that.
    I don't think his goal is to take out Akatsuki...he gathered the others just to handle Akatsuki in the case that he couldn't isolate Itachi by himself.

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    de-rail

    when is the 4th naruto movie coming out? i think its already out in august right? i want to see it ;;

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    Re: Naruto is back!

    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001
    You can't really rule out the possibility that Sasuke actually learned shit while under Orochimaru's hand. I mean, you gotta figure there was a reason why he wanted the body of a Sharingan user, and it's more than possible Sasuke realized the very reason for that desire during his training. Combine that knowledge with who knows what all he'd literally assimilated from him when Orochimaru finally decided to try and take over, and I'm not really surprised Itachi's "old hat" tricks didn't do much.

    I personally don't recall Orochimaru getting his hand lopped off (Not that Oro's physical body taking damage really seems to matter much when he can barf up a new form), but if Itachi used Tsukiyomi to give himself the opening, it'd indirectly have Sasuke experiencing it twice. Besides, if Deidara could somehow do Sharingan resistance training, everyone else in the Narutoverse should arguably have the ability outside of it being some kind of weird bloodline limit he may've had, however unlikely.

    If anything else, the conceit of genius could be a contributing factor. See Naruto vs Neji for that one.
    http://img30.onemanga.com/mangas/000...45/page-09.jpg

    And apparently I heard there's a plothole concerning Itachi's Age, making him 11 years old when he did this to Orochimaru. In one of the beginning issues of Part 2, an Akatsuki member said that Oro left Akatsuki 10 years ago. Since Itachi is 21 now, he was 11 back then.

    You can see the hand with the Akatsuki Ring fall to the ground here with a blood spatter.

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    Re: Naruto is back!

    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001
    You can't really rule out the possibility that Sasuke actually learned shit while under Orochimaru's hand. I mean, you gotta figure there was a reason why he wanted the body of a Sharingan user, and it's more than possible Sasuke realized the very reason for that desire during his training. Combine that knowledge with who knows what all he'd literally assimilated from him when Orochimaru finally decided to try and take over, and I'm not really surprised Itachi's "old hat" tricks didn't do much.

    I personally don't recall Orochimaru getting his hand lopped off (Not that Oro's physical body taking damage really seems to matter much when he can barf up a new form), but if Itachi used Tsukiyomi to give himself the opening, it'd indirectly have Sasuke experiencing it twice. Besides, if Deidara could somehow do Sharingan resistance training, everyone else in the Narutoverse should arguably have the ability outside of it being some kind of weird bloodline limit he may've had, however unlikely.

    If anything else, the conceit of genius could be a contributing factor. See Naruto vs Neji for that one.
    http://img30.onemanga.com/mangas/000...45/page-09.jpg

    You can see the hand with the Akatsuki Ring fall to the ground here with a blood spatter.

    Also, what you meant by Sasuke learning more under Oro's hand, I think you could say that he also learned a handful of techniques and gained strength by reversing the Body Transfer techinique against Oro.

    And apparently I heard there's a plothole concerning Itachi's Age, making him 11 years old when he did this to Orochimaru. In one of the beginning issues of Part 2, an Akatsuki member said that Oro left Akatsuki 10 years ago. Since Itachi is 21 now, he was 11 back then.

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    Re: Naruto is back!

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    ...I think you could say that he also learned a handful of techniques and gained strength by reversing the Body Transfer techinique against Oro.
    What do you mean reversing the body transfer technique? Did I miss something in that fight? I thought Sasuke just killed him. If he reversed the body transfer wouldn't he have orochimaru's body? I thought he just knew the snake techniques and such because Orochimaru taught that to him.

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    Re: Naruto is back!

    I'm not sure exactly what is up with who's body is who, but I'm positive he reversed the Body Transfer.
    http://img30.onemanga.com/mangas/000...0000365/07.jpg

    http://img30.onemanga.com/mangas/000...0000365/08.jpg

    Here he's basically realizing it's his newly acquired 'White Snake's power' that is the cause of his fast Regen.

    I think a bit of Oro is in Sasuke's mind or something. Not sure though.

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    I forgot about that, yeah he did get all those snake abilities and stuff from his fight with Orochimaru then I guess.

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    I believe he learned the snake jutsu's from Orochimaru and just obtained passive skills from the mind transfer thingy. I don't think Orochimaru learns the jutsu's of the people he wants to take over, he wants certain people for their passive traits or blood line limits or something that requires a specific body to use that jutsu.

    Now this just made me think how Orochimaru got his white snake power.

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    So is it safe to assume Orochimaru knew about the Sharingan's ability to live forever, or for an extended period of time? Or did he just want the Sharingan for what it was at face value?

    Hmm.

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    Now this just made me think how Orochimaru got his white snake power.
    likely from listening to too much 80s hair metal

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    Up a little early again tonight too.

    http://www.dattebayo.com/t/ns047.torrent

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    http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8448/beztytuuxu5.jpg

    I wish they didn't have different animation teams... :bagel:

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    Re: Naruto is back!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ivaden
    So is it safe to assume Orochimaru knew about the Sharingan's ability to live forever, or for an extended period of time? Or did he just want the Sharingan for what it was at face value?

    Hmm.
    Wasn't it stated like waaaaay back in the Chuunin Exam that Orochimaru thinks that jutsus = power, so he just wanted the Sharingan so he could copy a ton of different jutsus with little work?

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    Re: Naruto is back!

    Still can't tell if Itachi took an actual blow in this chapter but god damn he's got some insane reflexes to be attempting to dodge Sasuke's shuriken. The guy can barely fucking see anything right now.

    I'm still rooting for Itachi to win though. I can't see him dying just yet. However, I think there's a good chance (before Boyiee comes running in here telling me I should see this coming) that Sasuke will use CS lv2 to survive Ameterasu and everything will be set up for "that jutsu."

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