Naruto

**Serif** · 2013-02-27 09:16

Originally Posted by Milkster

If that were the case Tobirama would be able to control his body in the present due to having Haraishma cells.

Huh? Sorry kind of brain dead right now just got out of a 6 AM workout. Orochimaru has control of Tobimara and he has the Haraishimi cells in him.

So not really sure what you are saying, I could be derping though.

**Salodin** · 2013-02-27 09:19

No no, he said what he meant. Hes obviously wrong, but I understand what he said.

Milk: Orochimaru has hashirama cells in him, so he has a better control of edo tensei. Tobirama is also made from hashirama cells, so his resurrection was more complete, but it's still not strong enough to break free from orochimaru.

**Corresapolonia** · 2013-02-27 09:55

edit: ok chapter.

**Milkster** · 2013-02-27 13:06

Originally Posted by Salodin

No no, he said what he meant. Hes obviously wrong, but I understand what he said.

Milk: Orochimaru has hashirama cells in him, so he has a better control of edo tensei. Tobirama is also made from hashirama cells, so his resurrection was more complete, but it's still not strong enough to break free from orochimaru.

He was saying that he got Hashirama cell's from the dead brother to do his experiments, if all you needed were cells from the family not the 1st then Edo Tensi Tobirama should be just as strong, if not stronger, than Orichimaru and able to control his body of his own accord rather than Orichimaru being able to.

**Eurell** · 2013-02-27 13:37

Pretty sure Hashirama is breaking out of the edo because he's a ninja god badass, not because he has his own cells.

**Serif** · 2013-02-27 13:51

Originally Posted by Milkster

He was saying that he got Hashirama cell's from the dead brother to do his experiments, if all you needed were cells from the family not the 1st then Edo Tensi Tobirama should be just as strong, if not stronger, than Orichimaru and able to control his body of his own accord rather than Orichimaru being able to.

Kind of saying that, more along the line of Hairys brother actually being Zetsu. Just weird that Zetsu has a half white and half black side then out of nowhere we get another dude with the same characteristics and he is related to Hairy in more ways than one. Who knows though! Just speculation! :D

**Salodin** · 2013-02-27 14:10

oh I misunderstood. Zetsu being itami is silly lol.

Vuitton · 2013-02-27 14:16

Lamest chapter I've ever read.

**kuronosan** · 2013-02-27 15:23

I thought the chapter revealed a significant point in the story - Hashirama was the (first) ninja to realize that the cycle always repeats itself because adults convince children that the only way to win is to fight instead of talking. I'm guessing this story will reveal that Hashi and Madara both worked towards that goal and then something happened to knock Madara off of that path (something to do with the Uchiha or maybe something even as lame as a disagreement over who the first Hokage would be).

**Lucavi** · 2013-02-27 15:27

^ Even if there is a point, what you have here are a bunch of 30-year-olds getting salty because a story for 15-year-olds has some exposition into the origins of the village, and all this talking is taking away from the Hax jutsu currently being spell-slung around like the apocalypse.

I see both sides. "We know where this is going to lead, so why say it at all?", some would argue.

"Because the Editors want to drag this shit out for more money!" would come the reply.

**AoE** · 2013-02-27 15:31

Originally Posted by Lucavi

^ Even if there is a point, what you have here are a bunch of 30-year-olds getting salty because a story for 15-year-olds has some exposition into the origins of the village, and all this talking is taking away from the Hax jutsu currently being spell-slung around like the apocalypse.

I see both sides. "We know where this is going to lead, so why say it at all?", some would argue.

"Because the Editors want to drag this shit out for more money!" would come the reply.

CHILDREN'S CARD GAMES AIN'T NO FUCKIN JOKE, BRUH!
http://moe.animecharactersdatabase.c...1353956990.gif

**Lucavi** · 2013-02-27 15:33

Originally Posted by AoE

CHILDREN'S CARD GAMES AIN'T NO FUCKIN JOKE, BRUH!
http://moe.animecharactersdatabase.c...1353956990.gif

I love you, Kaiba. <3 <3 <3

**Ayn** · 2013-02-27 16:39

Honestly, I liked it.

In some ways it can explain why Madara might have really gone over the edge when Izuna died: Dude mention he had 4 brothers, right? So when the last living one dies, then all the other political crap happens on top of it, then it makes sense.

Potentially, it also describes how both Madara and Izuna might have developed their Mangekyo (be it killing the other two or watching them die in battle).

Can also give some insight into why Tobirama's such an ass, given the scene with Itami.

Furthermore, young Madara's hilarious.

Also Hashirama's dad is apparently Bright Noa.

That's why Hashirama's a fucking Ninja God of Destiny.

He received the ninja-equivalent of a Brightslap all throughout his youth.

When you consider that last insight revealed, A+ chapter, would read again.

**Vaspinne** · 2013-02-27 19:39

If this leads to where I think it will lead, it'll also add to another theme to the manga as well. While there is the cycle of the trios breaking apart, 1 being good, 1 being bad, and 1 being a useless girl, it'll also add to the other theme of trying to change the ninja world and passing on that responsibility to the next gen. Jiraiya -> Pein -> Naruto, and now Hashirama -> Sasuke (maybe, or maybe to the 3rd -> Jiraiya, etc, etc.).

Are things kind of repeating? Sure, but that just adds to the magnitude of Naruto being able to change the world. Everything would be underwhelming if Naruto didn't have all the failed attempts from his predecessors/teachers before him. And this manga would be just a thin story with excessive jutsu's.

**Damane** · 2013-02-28 09:47

Originally Posted by Vaspinne

If this leads to where I think it will lead, it'll also add to another theme to the manga as well. While there is the cycle of the trios breaking apart, 1 being good, 1 being bad, and 1 being a useless girl, it'll also add to the other theme of trying to change the ninja world and passing on that responsibility to the next gen. Jiraiya -> Pein -> Naruto, and now Hashirama -> Sasuke (maybe, or maybe to the 3rd -> Jiraiya, etc, etc.).

Are things kind of repeating? Sure, but that just adds to the magnitude of Naruto being able to change the world. Everything would be underwhelming if Naruto didn't have all the failed attempts from his predecessors/teachers before him. And this manga would be just a thin story with excessive jutsu's.

you forgot the cycle of evil hax-eye jutsu wielders: Madara ----> ??? (prolly the one that wanted to rebell against eh leaf and got the whole clan annihilated from Itachi)----> Tobirama ----> Sauuuucegay ------> sauuuucegay and sakuras child!

**Salodin** · 2013-02-28 11:15

Tobirama doesnt have eye hax...

**kuronosan** · 2013-02-28 12:32

I'm pretty sure he meant Obito.

**Pirian** · 2013-03-04 19:26

So, I just finished the anime up to the latest episode (302) and was hoping someone would be able to tell me where in the manga that puts me?

**Phoenyx** · 2013-03-04 19:39

Originally Posted by Pirian

So, I just finished the anime up to the latest episode (302) and was hoping someone would be able to tell me where in the manga that puts me?

Approximately chapter 558. Which is about 62 chapters behind.

**Salodin** · 2013-03-04 20:21

Damn anime caught up pretty fast, no wonder theres still fillers into the war arc.

Thread: Naruto

Thread Tools

Latest Threads

Up & Coming Threads

Hottest Threads