Drachen Roll

[Lily]

Don't know if anyone's interested, but took down some notes while fighting Kirin using Drachen Roll.

With SMN using Diabolos' Nether Blast, and no Dragoon in party:

SMN 1 Base 515 dmg with no roll
SMN 2 Base 508 dmg with no roll

Roll of 3 (lucky) SMN1 > 550 dmg
Roll of 3 (lucky) SMN2 > 542 dmg

Roll of 8 SMN1 > 535 dmg

Roll of 9 SMN1 > 535 dmg
Roll of 9 SMN2 > 527 dmg

Sadly that's all I got before we finished. It's hard hitting ppl with rolls when they're running around like crazy, which explains not having anything for Roll of 8 for SMN2. I know it's not very expansive, but it's interesting.

[Vigion]

I'm always interested in COR info. Thanks for tests results.

[shukuffxi]

Only time i've had access to Drachen Roll on my SMN was on a lucky Fafnir once I was lucky enough to have a COR in my PT, and since things were going extremely smooth, I asked for Drachen Roll, and MB'd the next SC with Windblade (lol, yeah, got it same day update came out) for 680. MB'd 2 more times with it, both with Drachen Roll on, got another around 650, and a resist for 520ish, rest of my BP were mostly physical, since I didn't wanna play around too much. Only relevant merit for this was 1 merit in Avatar Magical Attack (used the day Diabolos came out, to see how much 1 merit bumped up Nether Blast damage)

The COR roles were not lucky roll / perfect #, so I assume a good role could've pushed it up to 700-750 perhaps. Higher if I actually had Thunderstorm, and weather/day, but I have other stuff to spend merits on first.

And no, I don't usually use Merit BP >_> Just wanted to test while I had a chance.

[Rocl]

test with more dragoons! :D

[izembo]

considering she's one of the few in our ls, that's easier said then done

[Cadsuane]

Tested the effect on wyvern healing and offensive breath.

Wyrm Armet + Deep breathing - 420 (this is the typical number you'll almost always get on any mob)

Wyrm Armet + Deep breathing, Drachen roll of 3 - ... 420!

Did a few more wyvern breaths without deep breathing and a wyrm armet. The normal number is 210, which is what I with the COR buff regardless of the number rolled.
I did a deep breathing healing breath with no tp, wyvern mail and drachen brais + drachen roll of 3, came out to be 612 HP healed. Again, that's a typical number obtained without any buff. Without deep breath and wyvern hp the effect was 332. This is the number obtained normally with a wyrm armet.
The buff describes adding magic accuracy as well. Regarding this I feel it's relevant to mention that I still got several full 90% resists on the EP mobs I was testing on.

Commence with the lolling, because I think this is absolutely hilarious.

[Rocl]

Wouldn't your pet need the roll bonus and not you?

[izembo]

silly cads, he's talking about the bonus given to the smn if theres a drg in the pt when the cor rolls since they get bonus added if job is in pt

[Cadsuane]

Pets can't be hit by buffs, or much of anything beneficial. Presumably your pet is affected vicariously by the buff being on you or something. If not, well, he was in range to be hit by it, and he wasn't.

[Rocl]

Can't you transfer bard buffs via Empathy or whatever? Wouldn't it make more sense if you tried to give your wyvern Drachen Roll via Empathy and then test? >_>

[Cadsuane]

Possibly? Even if drachen roll required empathy to work on a wyvern, it's still the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard of. That's not how it works on SMN anyway, though.

[Rocl]

The thought occured to me about summoner afterward, oh well

[Kered]

We built this city...................

We built this city.....................

We built this city on Drachen Roll.

nevermind

[Priran]

Tested the effect on wyvern healing and offensive breath.

Wyrm Armet + Deep breathing - 420 (this is the typical number you'll almost always get on any mob)

Wyrm Armet + Deep breathing, Drachen roll of 3 - ... 420!

Did a few more wyvern breaths without deep breathing and a wyrm armet. The normal number is 210, which is what I with the COR buff regardless of the number rolled.
I did a deep breathing healing breath with no tp, wyvern mail and drachen brais + drachen roll of 3, came out to be 612 HP healed. Again, that's a typical number obtained without any buff. Without deep breath and wyvern hp the effect was 332. This is the number obtained normally with a wyrm armet.
The buff describes adding magic accuracy as well. Regarding this I feel it's relevant to mention that I still got several full 90% resists on the EP mobs I was testing on.

Commence with the lolling, because I think this is absolutely hilarious.

I'm pretty sure MAB doesn't effect BLU Breath spells either, so indeed this is lol.

[Khamsin]

It's SE, Drachen Roll doesn't have to affect DRG wyverns to make sense to them.

[Intense]

We built this city...................

We built this city.....................

We built this city on Drachen Roll.

<3

[Rishi]

It's SE, Drachen Roll doesn't have to affect DRG wyverns to make sense to them.

Exactly. Choral Roll is Interrupt Rate Down .. but Bard Songs can't be interrupted, so it doesn't help the job at all.

[Intense]

It's SE, Drachen Roll doesn't have to affect DRG wyverns to make sense to them.

Exactly. Choral Roll is Interrupt Rate Down .. but Bard Songs can't be interrupted, so it doesn't help the job at all.

I dunno dude, that makes sense to me.

[Khamsin]

Maybe DRG wyverns have an intrinsic MAB that no one ever notices because its always active, but it gives other pets that bonus.

[Thitaubian]

Maybe DRG wyverns have an intrinsic MAB that no one ever notices because its always active, but it gives other pets that bonus.

Your right! I think SE gave wyerns 'capped MAB' so the drachen roll can't increase it further ... /nodnod
Jokes aside its pretty sad.