Drachen Roll

[Khamsin]

Yes but BRD songs can not be interrupted like normal casting, thus Choral roll extends this benefit to other party members through Spell Interruption Rate % down. DRG's Wyverns aren't particularly known for high magic attack, so I don't see the correlation at all. If anything Drachen Roll should have given everyone delay reduction or haste, since dragoon is was meant to be a fast attacker with Jumps(delayless hits) and a pet that hits twice for every lance swing. Also Drake Earring is +5% DA, Wyvern Earring is +5% Haste and Wyvern Targe is +1% haste.


Know what would make Drachen Roll badass? Think Palidor from FF6.

Yeah, but you said:

Thus the phantom roll "Drachen Roll" is the only roll which does not affect the job it is named for in any way.

Choral Roll also does not affect the job it is named for in any way. While the effect it has on others may make sense, it still doesn't affect BRDs.

It's also kinda funny that they associate haste with DRGs, when they're one of the slowest attackers aside from DRKs with scythe.

[SeraphusRagnarok]

Well you have to remember the Wyvern is part of the DRG.

See, my theory is that when SE was making the Dragoon class they originally gave it high stats, heavy armor(think hauby) and powerful weapon skills, but then just said "We don't want to make another WAR or DRK class!".
So SE took a portion of DRG's power and shaved it off and molded it into a pet. This way the master would deal 2/3 of the class's damage and the pet would deal the remainder. Then they stook a label on the class highlighting that the master will gain less hate if it's damage is split between a pet.

I suppose SE originally wanted DRG to deal "seven out of ten" caliber damage constantly with high accuracy and little emnity, rather than "Ten out of ten" caliber damage with high hate like MNK. With the advent of TP burn and /NIN, hate isn't an issue because mobs die way too fast. Also since people mostly level off of VT-IT instead of the original concept that SE had in mind, which was to chain T mobs constantly.(This is why they never thought accuracy would be a problem, but then noticed the trend that people fought IT mobs which were originally not supposed to be fought.)
All in all DRG was supposed to be a damage dealer that attacks quickly.(Wyvern hits twice between each swing, so 180+35+42, isnt so bad). Instead of thinking that Jump and High Jump are job abilities, try to imagine them more as manual-use Double Attack. Whereas a WAR would have a 10% chance to DA, a DRG could manually trigger the second hit(Jump) or make a 3 hit attack round with swing,Jump,Highjump.


It's not hard to understand why they associate DRG with haste.
If you analyze the class, there's always attacks being made, not as fast as MNK/WAR with merits of course, but the pet has 230 delay. Instead if a wyvern, try to imagine the DRG is dual weilding a 93 dmg lance and a 40 damage sword at the same time. And the extra 20-210 damage from breaths isn't too bad, but they gave the breaths an HP based formula like spirits within, and most mobs spam the AoE. SE tried to help us out by giving us Gargoyle Boots and Earth Greaves which give Wyvern Stoneskin. Gargoyle Boots are a drop off a very rare NM that pops on the ferry in carpenter's landing. Earth Greaves are easier to obtain,however to my dismay, the stoneskin effect lasts on my wyvern for 30 seconds, whether he takes damage or not, the duration is laughable.

What SE failed to realize is that they didn't anticpate WAR/NIN becoming so wildly popular, and that Jump and High Jump are extremely high recasts. Undoubtebly a WAR/NIN can double attack more than once in 90 or 180 seconds. DRG would be pretty neat if Jump was 30 seconds and High Jump was 60 seconds. For a class defining skill, a 90 second Jump is pretty lousy...

Looks like i went off on a tangent...oh well.

/endrant

[Sagacious Sundi]

It's not hard to understand why they associate DRG with haste.

They should give DRG Auto-Haste at 25, 50, and 75. And give it to BST at 35 and 70 and PUP at 15, 30, 45, 60, 75. Or maybe reverse the DRG/PUP levels to make DRG the "haste master" and to let people know that automaton reliance is bigger for PUP than wyvern reliance is for DRG. BST would only get it twice because there is nothing about it that screams haste, unless I'm mistaken.

I have no idea on whether I'm serious or not.

[Dohorehn]

It makes sense for the two jobs that get resist-slow to get haste boosts! CMON SE DO THIS! lol

[Jeryhn]

And maybe SAM should get Auto Regain (TP Regen).

[SeraphusRagnarok]

1 TP/3 seconds isn't too broken. Thats 20 TP a minute. 100 TP in 5 minutes. It would have to be lvl 35, as to actually make /SAM decent, compared to /NIN, /SAM still loses.

[Jeryhn]

1 TP/3 seconds isn't too broken. Thats 20 TP a minute. 100 TP in 5 minutes.

Doesn't look like a lot on paper, but with regular melee activity as well?

[Khamsin]

And maybe SAM should get Auto Regain (TP Regen).

For a second, I was thinking Regain as in the medicine effect (instant 300% TP, full HP/MP). Then again, it would save them a trip up Parradamo Tor between uses!

It makes sense for the two jobs that get resist-slow to get haste boosts! CMON SE DO THIS! lol

For PUPs and melee SMN? All right!

[Sagacious Sundi]

.20 or .25TP/3sec so that's 4 or 5 TP a minute or something. Then at 70 add a second tier that doubles it or something.

[Rocl]

1 TP/3 seconds isn't too broken. Thats 20 TP a minute. 100 TP in 5 minutes. It would have to be lvl 35, as to actually make /SAM decent, compared to /NIN, /SAM still loses.

Wait
Are you Holy Dragoon Seraphus on KI.

[izembo]

yes. ban him please before it gets started.

[Ddong]

I'd like to hear more of this holy dragoon

[izembo]

pretty much one of those arrogant drg who think they are better than anyone at everything.

http://www.killingifrit.com/users.ph...tails&id=17722 is his KI profile.

also a member of the hnmls with the largest gilbuyer on the server as a leader.

[SeraphusRagnarok]

Berrima may be a hoe but I'm sure Thalion of TheCrew and Stellar of Solstice aren't much better. Oh and didn't Makore quit the game along with ObscuraNox's LS bank? Zenmetsu aint so hot either without Maxmillian. Compared to the ones I just listed Berr doesn't seem so bad. Yeah all EST HNMLS on Ragnarok have lousy leaders, except maybe SF.

[Cadsuane]

None of that has much bearing on you being a big tool who uses 100% full swings on dynamis Xarc mobs in lieu of a polearm.

[Rocl]

I knew it..
I vote for bannination of the nith degree

[Awoir]

bannination

[Heian]

I knew it..
I vote for bannination of the nith degree

I'll back you in this Holy Endevor for the Church!

[izembo]

wow that was a funny reply.

[Gregorio]

Drachen Roll sounds like a type of sushi.

Kinda making me hungry.