DoT kills and TH

[Everlasting]

Something else that may be skewing the thoughts on "THF must have hate" vs "in zone/close": More bodys in PT means more drops from my experience.

Could be placebo because you now have an extra member therefore probably more drops.

[Septimus]

Something else that may be skewing the thoughts on "THF must have hate" vs "in zone/close": More bodys in PT means more drops from my experience.

Could be placebo because you now have an extra member therefore probably more drops.

Curses!

I was going to link Placebo saying that it is a detailed work up of how treasure hunter really works, but you beat me to it.

[SeraphusRagnarok]

Any BST,SMN,DRG,PUP in the house? I bet you all notice when the pet kills the mob 90% of the time the mob drops zilch,nada,nothing. Whenever my wyvern gets the killshot on ANYTHING the drop rate is so shitty. Everytime i duo Lumberjack with a fellow DRG, wyvern gets the kill and we get a fucking elixer and lightning mantle. When my wyvern got the killshot on fafnir it dropped Fire Crystal,Talon,Heart and the gilfinder gloves.

[TB]

I believe in $random.

[Gere]

Any BST,SMN,DRG,PUP in the house? I bet you all notice when the pet kills the mob 90% of the time the mob drops zilch,nada,nothing. Whenever my wyvern gets the killshot on ANYTHING the drop rate is so shitty. Everytime i duo Lumberjack with a fellow DRG, wyvern gets the kill and we get a fucking elixer and lightning mantle. When my wyvern got the killshot on fafnir it dropped Fire Crystal,Talon,Heart and the gilfinder gloves.

Exact opposite for me, when I farm I swear I only get drops on wyvern killshots.

[Khamsin]

Any BST,SMN,DRG,PUP in the house? I bet you all notice when the pet kills the mob 90% of the time the mob drops zilch,nada,nothing. Whenever my wyvern gets the killshot on ANYTHING the drop rate is so shitty. Everytime i duo Lumberjack with a fellow DRG, wyvern gets the kill and we get a fucking elixer and lightning mantle. When my wyvern got the killshot on fafnir it dropped Fire Crystal,Talon,Heart and the gilfinder gloves.

Exact opposite for me, when I farm I swear I only get drops on wyvern killshots.

My Garuda has TH+100 for me.

[Gregorio]

be on hate list

if mob dies to dot unclaimed (hi mijin) , then you get 0 drops ^_^

That stupid lil tidbit screwed my LS in our first Ouryu win.

No drops, no title, nothin. But we did manage to set the record for the week.

[chilicheese]

gawd i phail @ search

someone link the thread where the guy wrote the formula for treasure hunter using multihit weaponskills + random other shit.. and chilicheese made the super duper awesome calculas graph of ridills to fire crystals D;;;; (i think was on the old boards, so maybe thats why i cant find it)


with regards to salvage.. ive had more bombs drop nothing when normally killed , than when they self destruct.... doesnt make a difference to me


edit side note: i notice whenever i enter a new zone, the first mob i kill always(99%) drops something

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...e/ffxicalc.jpg

[Elanassa]

Any BST,SMN,DRG,PUP in the house? I bet you all notice when the pet kills the mob 90% of the time the mob drops zilch,nada,nothing. Whenever my wyvern gets the killshot on ANYTHING the drop rate is so shitty.

If I'm farming on SMN/THF and 'sic Carbie on a mob that I never engage... I should be on the mobs hate list (Assault generates hate), but the drops are always pathetic. Which sorta suggests to me that TH has to be slightly higher on the hate table. When I duo a mob with Carbie the drops always seem better.

What I -really- should test is whether or not the gil drops from Beastmen mobs are affected by Gilfinder whether I engage or not. That'd be a drastically easier way to test.

[Hakamaru]

Heh, misread Wafik's post on page 1, then dug this SS up to show you get drops when you claim with Mijin... now I see he's talking about unclaimed DoT kill and I went through all those faf drops for nothing. Oh well, guess I'll still share...

Best Mijin Gakure kill ever?http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...e/img_0185.jpg

[VZX]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...e/ffxicalc.jpg

means party members, treasure hunter and weapon skills used not affecting the drop rate? lol

[Elmer the Pointy]

Any BST,SMN,DRG,PUP in the house? I bet you all notice when the pet kills the mob 90% of the time the mob drops zilch,nada,nothing. Whenever my wyvern gets the killshot on ANYTHING the drop rate is so shitty. Everytime i duo Lumberjack with a fellow DRG, wyvern gets the kill and we get a fucking elixer and lightning mantle. When my wyvern got the killshot on fafnir it dropped Fire Crystal,Talon,Heart and the gilfinder gloves.

Both on DRG and PUP I never notice this. I'm surprised a DRG would be spreading this false rumor

Here's a screenie of my puppet killing Genbu:

http://www.cactuarsensei.com/ffxivid/kingenkil.jpg

Seal of Genbu
Arctic Wind
Genbu Shield
Genbu Kabuto
Aquarian Abjuration: Head
Adamantoise Shell
Earth Crystal

[Bakthi]

Any BST,SMN,DRG,PUP in the house? I bet you all notice when the pet kills the mob 90% of the time the mob drops zilch,nada,nothing. Whenever my wyvern gets the killshot on ANYTHING the drop rate is so shitty.

If I'm farming on SMN/THF and 'sic Carbie on a mob that I never engage... I should be on the mobs hate list (Assault generates hate), but the drops are always pathetic. Which sorta suggests to me that TH has to be slightly higher on the hate table. When I duo a mob with Carbie the drops always seem better.

Stuff you do before the mob is engaged at all isn't going to generate hate, just like the CoP airship strategy (aggro pull all the mammets and you can get curebombed as much as you want). If I'm partied with another person and wait until they smack the mob to use Fight, then that will generate hate (and has pulled the mob off them and onto me). If I send my pet after the mob to claim it initially using Fight, and then take no further action, that's not going to do anything. It only comes after me when my pet dies because it's smart enough to know what's up.

I don't know if it would work to have you command it to BP while in hate range, though. It "should", but...you could just beat on it.

[yrpaine]

Any BST,SMN,DRG,PUP in the house? I bet you all notice when the pet kills the mob 90% of the time the mob drops zilch,nada,nothing. Whenever my wyvern gets the killshot on ANYTHING the drop rate is so shitty. Everytime i duo Lumberjack with a fellow DRG, wyvern gets the kill and we get a fucking elixer and lightning mantle.

If you wanted to get more than elixirs you shouldn't have went as DRG. My SMN gets drops just fine, but my THF gets better =P. What gets the kill shot doesn't matter.

[Zeph]

Heh, misread Wafik's post on page 1, then dug this SS up to show you get drops when you claim with Mijin... now I see he's talking about unclaimed DoT kill and I went through all those faf drops for nothing. Oh well, guess I'll still share...

Best Mijin Gakure kill ever?http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...e/img_0185.jpg

thats fucked up if he stole

[safer]

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/ ... xicalc.jpg [/img]

means party members, treasure hunter and weapon skills used not affecting the drop rate? lol

you had to have read the entire thread.. it was truly a gem



about the fafnir kill... it'd have been a much better killshot if ridill dropped =p

[Hakamaru]

Heh, misread Wafik's post on page 1, then dug this SS up to show you get drops when you claim with Mijin... now I see he's talking about unclaimed DoT kill and I went through all those faf drops for nothing. Oh well, guess I'll still share...

Best Mijin Gakure kill ever?

thats fucked up if he stole

It was a complete wipe. Everyone was trying to claim when it went yellow. The entire DA filled with LOLs after it. And I believe it was a CGF alliance that wiped on top of that.

[-Omni]

Ok, I have a question. When SE says thieves in "party" affect drop rate, does that apply to alliance as well, or strictly the party? (i.e. a party of thieves getting the kill for more TH?)

Thoughts?

[Epical]

Heh, misread Wafik's post on page 1, then dug this SS up to show you get drops when you claim with Mijin... now I see he's talking about unclaimed DoT kill and I went through all those faf drops for nothing. Oh well, guess I'll still share...

Best Mijin Gakure kill ever?http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...e/img_0185.jpg

That may be the best Mijin steal ever, but karma got the last laugh and the drops are excruciatingly bad.