Besieged Adjustments 2/20/07

[Everlasting]

HAY GUYZ LETS TAEK AN EXTRA 40 MINUETS TO KILL MEDUSKA INSTEAD OF KILLING LAMIA 12 IN 10 MINUETS JUST FOR AN EXTRA 40 XP AND IS !!!!!!11111


Kill them ASAP and get your xp/is. If the reward for killing Medusa was better than a dismal extra 40 xp/is, I'd understand it. But fuck, Besieged allready takes like 45-60 minutes. End the shit christ.

If you are so concerned with how efficently you earn your EXP and IS don't come. And the reward isn't 40.

Congrats on showing everyone once again how big your mouth and how little your brain is.

[Suiram]

HAY GUYZ LETS TAEK AN EXTRA 40 MINUETS TO KILL MEDUSKA INSTEAD OF KILLING LAMIA 12 IN 10 MINUETS JUST FOR AN EXTRA 40 XP AND IS !!!!!!11111


Kill them ASAP and get your xp/is. If the reward for killing Medusa was better than a dismal extra 40 xp/is, I'd understand it. But fuck, Besieged allready takes like 45-60 minutes. End the shit christ.

It's a dismal extra 200 xp/is actually, but I think your point still holds. People like the above poster who shout the whole time about the fucking (Mega Boss) annoy me to no end.

[NynJa]

HAY GUYZ LETS TAEK AN EXTRA 40 MINUETS TO KILL MEDUSKA INSTEAD OF KILLING LAMIA 12 IN 10 MINUETS JUST FOR AN EXTRA 40 XP AND IS !!!!!!11111


Kill them ASAP and get your xp/is. If the reward for killing Medusa was better than a dismal extra 40 xp/is, I'd understand it. But fuck, Besieged allready takes like 45-60 minutes. End the shit christ.

If you are so concerned with how efficently you earn your EXP and IS don't come. And the reward isn't 40.

Congrats on showing everyone once again how big your mouth and how little your brain is.

OH SHIT TWO HUNDRED XP!!!!!!!!!!
TWO HUNDRED!!!!!!!!!!!!


You must be a dragoon or a pup...

[Not Kuno]

People play FFXI without their stupid filter on?



And by stupid I mean shout, since there has never been anything intelligent said in shout.

[Sagacious Sundi]

Look at his veins! Obviously he's bionically enhanced by the moblins :O

You might be right.

According to rumor, the Trolls also undergo anatomy-enhancing surgical operations in order to survive in the harshest of environments.

Although that could be the whole Woodtroll/Hilltroll thing.

I'm guessing that weird thing in the middle is part of the Mamool Ja Savages? I also wonder if these unique beastmen are going to play a part in the story. Perhaps a battle in Jade/Navukgo/Talacca against them at some point in ToAU to conclude the Near Eastern beastmen's story?

Also, maybe we will finally meet the Mamool Ja knight class unless we already have?

EDIT: First post in BG since I returned to the internet/NY!

[Everlasting]

You must be a dragoon or a pup...

Naw son, NIN RDM BLM here, solo or duo for exp isn't a problem.

Let me ask you again: If you are so concerned why do you even show up? You know 1k exp for 30 minutes work is awful, why are you there, just show up to bitch about how slow it is?

You're a living, breathing Internet cliche NynJa. Catchphrases, worn out jokes, nothing original, nothing to add to the conversation and you reply quickly to make it look like you're actually witty.

Give it up dude, you have nothing to contribute.

[Demitrius]

Besieged is right up there with NPC improvemets, in my opinion. They need to give it some kind of reward. ANY kind of reward. I can get three times the xp burning wamouras for an hour. Maybe have rare items that can be lotted by anyone in the zone that was present for the entire Besieged and is level 75. Give separate Besieged points that can be redeemed for items. SOMETHING.

I'd rather lolHydra right now than go to Besieged.

[Rocl]

I figured Woodtroll/Hilltroll had to do entirely with where they lived

I guess it does make sense that the Moblins would bionically enhance them to allow them to survive in Halvung since the Trolls were hired by the Empire as mercenaries and I assume they means they aren't native to Western Arajidah (or whatever the continent is named)

The big rhino of an adamantoise looks like something the Mamool Ja would make, assuming they know some sort of basic chimera alchemy (assuming Gulool Ja Ja is a chimera and not some freak baby)

[NynJa]

Let me ask you again: If you are so concerned why do you even show up? You know 1k exp for 30 minutes work is awful, why are you there, just show up to bitch about how slow it is?

I go when I feel like showing off my e-peen to the nubs. Usually when I go, rarely might I add, its on my war with my Temperance Axe and a bunch of Virtue stones.


I used to go to besieged pretty often when it was first introduced and the first 2-3 buff patches. However with the one that made lv5 besieged a loss unless you have 600 people, or the amount of times I got locked out of besieged because of a bunch of afkers/lv1-40's(I'm talking 200+) in there made it a huge turnoff.


Not to mention those Undead Swarms where the Lamia corsairs would do dukerippen every 3 second and heal all the mobs for 400HP, THAT WAS FUN.

[Martinius]

im more impressed you were able to equip your temperance axe on war.

/back to lurking.

[fantasticdan]

It's a dismal extra 200 xp/is actually, but I think your point still holds. People like the above poster who shout the whole time about the fucking (Mega Boss) annoy me to no end.

Yes, but by killing Medusa INSTEAD of say, two of the numbered lamia, you'd only have a net gain of what, 120exp/is? Regardless, they really need to up the exp by alot. 0.7-1k per hour is just rediculous at 75, for something that isn't fun to begin with, aside from going after charmed players of coarse.

[LD]

I always assumed he was a freak baby.
The rhino thing looks natural to me, actually.
I mean, bugard are natural and they have them, only diff seems to be this new one is more like a mammal (Beast.)

It would be nice if you got more for your efforts, raise the exp cap or something.
It isn't hard to hit the cap as a melee, you can do it in the first 10-20 minutes, then bow out for the other 40-50. -_-
Getting at least 5k for a Besieged doesn't seem unreasonable; it's not as much as a TOA exp party, but enough to be considered decent for an hour's worth of effort and a 100% IS conversion.

[Everlasting]

Besieged is right up there with NPC improvemets, in my opinion. They need to give it some kind of reward. ANY kind of reward.

They do need to bump up the rewards.

A straight 3k exp would be reasonable I think (same as burning an Empress Band) but they would need to keep the IS reward the same or it would bone the coin market even more than it is.

SE needs to realize that people don't catch Besieged all the time and that a higher reward is in order. I'm thinking they keep the rewards low because they barrier to entry is so low but they don't realize it's actually a high barrier because catching them is a bitch (for a person with a job/school/etc).

If you want to camp Besieged 24x7 then 9k exp per day is a reasonable reward but I want more than 1k when I'm spending an hour out of my 4 hours of free time per day *and* happen to be lucky enough to catch it.

[Aerin]

I don't think they'll increase the amount of exp gained by that much until people stop coming to it as much.

Not sure how it is on your guys' servers but Carbuncle still has the max (700) people in the zone sometimes during Besieged.

SE probably doesn't want people to stop trying to get exp/merits the old fashioned way at all. Some exp party's only get 3-4k an hour, so you know those people will leave their camps and come running to Besieged

[Suiram]

It's a difficult discussion to have on an inter-server discussion board, because it seems like Besieged popularity ranges widely from server to server. Some servers have never lost, while some seem to lose consistently whenever they hit Lv5 or 6. On our server, there's maybe 2 hours a day where we run the risk of not having enough on for a routine win, the rest of the time we have 400+, and half the time the zone is full and locks out latecomers. Increasing the bonus substantially to something like 5k wouldn't really be necessary or even balanced with respect to other stuff in the game for us, unlike other servers where you could probably make a good argument for it.

[fantasticdan]

If too many people in the zone is a problem, they should atleast start by booting and locking out the sub level-50 players. Level 20 whms spamming banish to skill up divine, no thanks.

[Everlasting]

It's a difficult discussion to have on an inter-server discussion board, because it seems like Besieged popularity ranges widely from server to server.

The one thing most people agree on: Boss shouters suck!

I haven't been to one in a couple months but on our server it maxes or gets near that in the NA evenings and JP evenings but if they attack in the NA afternoon it can get hairy. On our server 300+ is pretty much an assured win even though we will lose generals and it will be a close fight.

The flip side of the increased reward argument is that keeping the AC is the reward and the exp/IS is just some frosting on top.

[toonces]

Put drops in Besiege

[Sagacious Sundi]

I always assumed he was a freak baby.

Guh, now I have Mamool Ja fighter/mage sex images in my head. -.- I had always assumed he/they were an Imperial creation, but would that mean he/they have been around for a while?

I figured Woodtroll/Hilltroll had to do entirely with where they lived

Me too. They all look the same.

Also, back when they didn't even announce level 6 Besieged battles, I had always figured that Besieged should reward about 500x the level of the attack, and maybe half of that as the IS reward. And I also thought maybe these should be the NM EXP rewards:
Beastmen Leaders: 500
Mega Bosses: 250
Bosses: 100
Sub Bosses: 0-50 (There's a lot of these...so even 0 would be plausible. Maybe just like 25 extra EXP for the aerial sub bosses.)

Also, unless they already have, they should get rid of the Lv1 armies that go at 100. It annoys me having 2 identical armies for 100 AND 110.

[divisortheory]

Besieged is right up there with NPC improvemets, in my opinion. They need to give it some kind of reward. ANY kind of reward. I can get three times the xp burning wamouras for an hour. Maybe have rare items that can be lotted by anyone in the zone that was present for the entire Besieged and is level 75. Give separate Besieged points that can be redeemed for items. SOMETHING.

I'd rather lolHydra right now than go to Besieged.

There is a reward. It's a 15% exp bonus while partying in ToAU areas, and the ability to use runic portals.