Oscars Bitches

[Xavier]

Do you even know if IA was submitted to the Academy when it was released for review?

Because it seems kinda stupid to cry foul if they never even submitted it in the first place.

[GRT]

Not sure, don't really care anyway. A movie doesn't need an oscar to be good

I'm writing this just to respond to how a lot of people seem to think the departed is the better film while not watching both... and because I'm bored as fuck right now in the office >.>

[Xavier]

but nobody said the departed was a better film, just that it was an awesome film.

I don't think anybody has said IA sucked or anything. And you have to remember we are Americans, where anything foreign is evil.

[Lbelle]

but nobody said the departed was a better film, just that it was an awesome film.

I don't think anybody has said IA sucked or anything.

qft. No one has said The Departed was the better of the two itt (in the Departed thread, maybe...but not here), that's just you assuming things again. All we've said is that it IS Oscar worthy, not MORE Oscar worthy.

[GRT]

but nobody said the departed was a better film, just that it was an awesome film.

I don't think anybody has said IA sucked or anything.

qft. No one has said The Departed was the better of the two itt (in the Departed thread, maybe...but not here), that's just you assuming things again. All we've said is that it IS Oscar worthy, not MORE Oscar worthy.

I dont see how you can see departed shouldnt have won because it has somewhat the same plot as another movie. Infernal affairs seemed like it was on a cheaper budget or something, and the actors were no where near as departed with jack nickolson and leonardo decaprio. yeah i agree some scenes were very similar, but departed was a better movie, im willing to bet some people in this thread would never have even heard of infernal affairs if not for departed

and back to why I think the departed shouldn't have won: not only does it duplicate the majority of plot and setting detail of the original, it fails short to deliver the general mood or feel of the story where the original did in excellence, and this backstepping is really an embarassement and getting an award for it only makes the embarassement contageous from the movie by itself to the rest of the industry here in the states

[Xavier]

You're taking somebody with "ass" in their name serious?

[Lbelle]

onoes, I lose that one.

[GRT]

You're taking somebody with "ass" in their name serious?

haha, you've got a point there, but you'd be surprised how many people out there, or in here, actually think that way... or maybe you wouldn't be

[Xavier]

Just curious, what did you think deserved best picture last year. I thought Brokeback mountain was overrated, Capote and Munich weren't that great. Never seen Good Night, and Good luck though.

Good Night, and Good Luck was fairly well done, but I don't know if it was Best Picture caliber. More than anything, it was the movies overall message that was important, since its relevent today again. I liked Munich too, but I never saw Capote.

I should clarify that I don't think Crash didn't deserve to win as a movie, just that I personally didn't like it. I can understand why it won, just that I didn't enjoy it.

[SephYuyX]

im willing to bet some people in this thread would never have even heard of infernal affairs if not for departed

Probably a good bet, but I liked infernal affairs, I never knew departed was taken from it, nor that this movie was as big as it is untill last night. I saw leo d'sucko was in it and gave it an F automatically.

[Xavier]

Leo is a really quality actor now, imo.

He was good in Titantic I felt, but then kinda had a series of so-so movies. His partnership w/ Scorsese though has been really good imo. I really enjoyed Gangs of New York, The Aviator and The Departed.

[SephYuyX]

How closely is it to infernal affairs? I guess ill dl and give it a shot if its as good as the original.

[GRT]

actually leo is really not bad at all now... if you've already given an F to departed and won't change your mind, I still suggest that you go watch blood diamond, that movie delivered like no action movie has in a good while now and a lot of that credit goes to leo

[Xavier]

and back to why I think the departed shouldn't have won: not only does it duplicate the majority of plot and setting detail of the original, it fails short to deliver the general mood or feel of the story where the original did in excellence, and this backstepping is really an embarassement and getting an award for it only makes the embarassement contageous from the movie by itself to the rest of the industry here in the states

I still think you're missing whats important here. The Departed wasn't running against IA for Best Picture. It was running against The Queen, Babel, Letters from Iwa Jima and Little Miss Sunshine.

So while I can understand the disappointment (I guess, I never saw IA so I'm taking your word for it) between The Departed and IA, all you can really do is compare The Departed to the other films nominated in the category.

I won't lie, I only saw The Departed and Little Miss Sunshine, so I'm not qualified to say if The Departed was the best out of the bunch. I do know I enjoyed The Departed more than Little Miss Sunshine, even though Sunshine was really fun to watch. I still really want to see The Queen but I'm just going to have to wait for it to come out on DVD.

[Rafbacca]

When you watched little miss sunshine did you cringe thinking just what her routine would be having her totally degenerate dirty old man granfather in charge of her routine.

[Xavier]

I thought it was hilarious when she started dancing up there.

[GRT]

and back to why I think the departed shouldn't have won: not only does it duplicate the majority of plot and setting detail of the original, it fails short to deliver the general mood or feel of the story where the original did in excellence, and this backstepping is really an embarassement and getting an award for it only makes the embarassement contageous from the movie by itself to the rest of the industry here in the states

I still think you're missing whats important here. The Departed wasn't running against IA for Best Picture. It was running against The Queen, Babel, Letters from Iwa Jima and Little Miss Sunshine.

So while I can understand the disappointment (I guess, I never saw IA so I'm taking your word for it) between The Departed and IA, all you can really do is compare The Departed to the other films nominated in the category.

I won't lie, I only saw The Departed and Little Miss Sunshine, so I'm not qualified to say if The Departed was the best out of the bunch. I do know I enjoyed The Departed more than Little Miss Sunshine, even though Sunshine was really fun to watch. I still really want to see The Queen but I'm just going to have to wait for it to come out on DVD.

Heh, yah well, I'll compromise in saying that it's our differences in opinion in what should qualify as a best picture. In my personal opinion, though, if a nominee is a remake, it should at least be a remake for the better... and it shouldn't win the award if it's not better than the original even if it's better than the other nominations.



but let's set that aside a bit and let me go totally off topic for a bit... check this out:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pict ... large.html

man, that trailer just excited me as much as the 300 one did although in an opposite way, anybody else think that looks immensely intriguing and maybe even somewhat spellbinding? :D

[Keno]

I don't recall -anyone- screaming that Return of the King "ripped off" J.R. Tolkien's novel. It's an adaptation. Did they "steal" J.R. Tolkien's dialogue? Way, -way- more so than The Departed did to Infernal Affairs, if you want to consider it stealing, but that is just showing ignorance to what an adaptation -is-. As I recall, RotK also won Oscars, including best diretor and picture and adapted screenplay.

ROTK won in every single category it was nominated for that year. Every one of them. Including director, screenplay adaptation, and film. In total, 11 awards.

That was a good Oscars.

Arguably the best movie ever made.. Definately was a good year. Really too bad Last Samurai came out the same year though, because LotR caused it to be vastly overlooked.

[edgarfigaro]

I don't recall -anyone- screaming that Return of the King "ripped off" J.R. Tolkien's novel. It's an adaptation. Did they "steal" J.R. Tolkien's dialogue? Way, -way- more so than The Departed did to Infernal Affairs, if you want to consider it stealing, but that is just showing ignorance to what an adaptation -is-. As I recall, RotK also won Oscars, including best diretor and picture and adapted screenplay.

ROTK won in every single category it was nominated for that year. Every one of them. Including director, screenplay adaptation, and film. In total, 11 awards.

That was a good Oscars.

Arguably the best movie ever made.. Definately was a good year. Really too bad Last Samurai came out the same year though, because LotR caused it to be vastly overlooked.

You mean Dances with Wolves with samurais? I've got 3 brothers and a sister, and we all saw it together. First and only time we all agreed on a movie...it was the definition of mediocre. If it wasn't for Ken Watanabe, that movie would've been absolute garbarge.

On topic: putting aside the question of why the fuck was a gospel choir at the oscars...why was a WHITE gospel choir at the Oscars? It just doesn't compute.

[markasstrick]

you're taking a guy with ass in his name serious

markasstrick=serious as cancer