homam for pld

[pimpp]

i searched for about 10mins and didnt find enough info to satisfy me.

hands r obviously sex.

my question is: would u rather give ur plds legs or feet? or both, and which first? and would u give either or both over or equally to thfs or drks?
o, and im only really concerned w/ wyrms and other times while /nin.

my thoughts were that feet > legs. only thing legs have over feet is the fast cast but i dont think that itd be worth giving up the 2-3enmity from the legs(af1/purple/af2) bc if u have a nin/brd(or drk) in the alliance, ur gonna struggle to keep up as is. w/ the feet, u still get the haste but w/o losing the enmity plus slightly more hp/mp.

w/ that said, nearly everyone in my ls feels that legs would be better bc the fast cast + haste would out weigh the 2-3enmity.

ive tanked all the wyrms and all the kings and cerb/hydra on a mule that doesnt even have swift belt so i cant really test out this theory, but i think that homam hands legs feet and swift belt would generate more hate(not to mention a shit load more hp/mp) than any combination of af1/purple/af2 hand legs feet and warwolf.

if this is a much better setup, how much priority(if any) would pld have over thfs and drks for these pieces.

if theres been a very similiar topic to this, then i apologize. i didnt see it.

[Grey Jorildyn]

legs. if you're really concerned about haste in the feet slot, dusk makes an ok substitute just for that purpose. you can't get haste in any other leg slot for PLD. the fast cast is ok but not a big deal. the real gem is also getting the 26 hp/mp to go along with your haste+3%. legs > feet imo.

if you're prioritizing gear allotment for HNM, it goes to paladin without question. the legs are tp gear for both thf and drk, not much else.

[LinktheDeme]

legs. if you're really concerned about haste in the feet slot, dusk makes an ok substitute just for that purpose. you can't get haste in any other leg slot for PLD. the fast cast is ok but not a big deal. the real gem is also getting the 26 hp/mp to go along with your haste+3%. legs > feet imo.

if you're prioritizing gear allotment for HNM, it goes to paladin without question. the legs are tp gear for both thf and drk, not much else.

well fast cast benefits blue mage more than pld imo

edit: nvm was a debate between thf and drk

[Isildur]

i searched for about 10mins and didnt find enough info to satisfy me.

hands r obviously sex.

my question is: would u rather give ur plds legs or feet? or both, and which first? and would u give either or both over or equally to thfs or drks?

Legs, hands down, feet are more like a "buffer" piece...nice to have but it can be replaced by something else...AF+1/Dusk/Relic comes to mind, they all benefit different criterias but like i said, its more like a buffer piece, you dont NEED homam feet but they're nice to have.

My LS hands out homam legs to THFs and DRKs...PLDs dont even get to lot them, i've been contesting this for months now and it irritates the hell outta me.

[izembo]

who cares? a pld still contributes way more to a fight than a blu does and should still get it over them even if blu benefits from fast cast.

[killerx]

legs and hands are just hot sex for any PLD

[Jeryhn]

Give PLD legs and hands first.

Rest is fluff/epeen/max.

[NynJa]

HOWZ ABOOT GIVING IT TO THE GUY WHOS DEDICATED MORE EFFORT TO IT

[Zilong]

Effort? In my loot distribution?

[Jeryhn]

HOWZ ABOOT GIVING IT TO THE GUY WHOS DEDICATED MORE EFFORT TO IT

Is that like being dedicated enough to your job to level a WAR subjob?

[killerx]

thats probably asking too much

[Koyangi]

lolMap

[Kooldac]

My LS hands out homam legs to THFs and DRKs...PLDs dont even get to lot them, i've been contesting this for months now and it irritates the hell outta me.

That is horrible....

[GSDragoon]

HOWZ ABOOT GIVING IT TO THE GUY WHOS DEDICATED MORE EFFORT TO IT

Shall I link you to the Hydra Haubert thread, or did you forget you're at BG?

In all honestly, it's great haste tp build gear for all jobs that can use them.

[layoneil]

In all honestly, it's great haste tp build gear for all jobs that can use them.

which is why it's better for PLDs than all the other jobs that can use them.

if you'd have to prioritize TP Build vs HNM Tanking Build in an LS that does HNMs, TP Build loses every time.

oh and to be fair, if PLDs get exclusive job priority at Hands and Legs, they should be excluded from Body and Feet unless they also have other jobs for it. Head is bleh for most jobs i think.

HOWZ ABOOT GIVING IT TO THE GUY WHOS DEDICATED MORE EFFORT TO IT

how about you figure out that any thread where an item is asking for a job comparison, it automatically implies all other things being equal, including effort.

and how about you don't post in these threads again if you have nothing to say.

and how about if i see another post like this you get banned (and unlike Sonomaa, i don't temp ban).

[Xavier]

Hands are clearly PLD, like you said. Legs are by far the best piece a PLD/NIN can wear, even though other jobs benefit from them as well. I personally do PLD/NIN in Homam Feet, and since getting Aegis switch over to AF1 feet when shadows are down.

13% Haste, Fast Cast, +77 HP, +77 MP, +13 Accuracy (for Excalibur, obviously), and +3 enmity. By itself, those three slots pretty much give a PLD everything he needs for /NIN. The other slots can just be filled with straight enmity/damage reduction/magic reduction gear.

To the guy whos linkshell doesn't even let PLD lot Homam Legs, OUCH LOL.

[killerx]

poor guys getting fucked in the ass with a sand paper condom with random chunks of glass pushed in.

[NynJa]

wow gettin leaky here...
If your shell does job/nazi distribution, do the job/nazi distribution. If it does points distribution, do point distribution. If your linkshell does job/nazi distribution, you should allready know whos going to get what from leader discussions, and if it does points distribution, why go to job/nazi distribution over one piece of gear ?

EVERYONE in the running will state their case as to why they are the job worthy of said piece of gear.
PLD's will say why PLD's should get first dibs. DRK's will say why they're most deservant, as will THF's.
You want an example ? Ok: "Who should lot defending ring? PLD or NIN". What was the outcome from that ? Both. Both sides had strong arguments at both ends, and after a bunch of ">" "<" ">" "<" ">" "<" ">" "<" ">" "<" arguments (those are greater than and less than symbols for the mathemically inept, not faces), it was resolved to a "=". Whereas, "Should my SAM be prioritized for Ridill" will be resolved with a lot of rofls, because thats just stupid. Someone will just go "you'll do more damage with Hagun than Ridill" and end it at that.

If you're having a serious discussion over the fact that a piece of gear is better for job A over job B that it has gotten to the point where you needed to make a thread asking for which job deserves it more, its probably because the piece of gear is equally useful for job A and B, and thus both should have similiar lotting rights. If you look at the cases for both sides, and you look at them again, and then you look at them a third time, and you still cant decide which is better, then its probably because its not better.



HAPPAY NOWZ LULZ ?!?!? You made me repeat pretty much the same damn thing in three paragraphs instead of 10 words.
If you want to work with assumptions, thats fine, and with that I'll retort with my own assumption: How do you know this guy isnt a PLD who keeps losing lot on Homam Legs because he's in a points based system and he either doesnt have enough pts or his LS gets unlucky on the drop and wants to try to weasel his way to the front of the line for them ?? You're welcome to assume stuff, but working with assumptions leads to a much greater margin of error. I take whats at face value and I work with that.

[Grey Jorildyn]

by his post it would not seem to be the case that he is in a points-based linkshell as he is asking a priority question..

[Elesirdur]

I actually just left a linkshell over this. PLD was third tier lot on Homam Cosciales after BLU (fuck you gear-whoring bitches) and DRK was top lot. My old LS didn't use a points based system - a major failing not doubt - and basically if you weren't on probation you had equal lot with anyone declared as that job's main within that job's lotting tier. Anyways, despite about three months worth of appealing to the LS leaders to change the Homam lotting tiers, it was clear that the two LS BLUs had their heads so far up the admins asses you could see those stupid little veils poking out of the leader's mouths. I would have ninja lotted an Omega's Hind Leg had they not lost due to a time's-up on our sixth Omega because of an exceedingly stupid gunpod farming strategy.

Moral of the story: Homam Cosciales are the single most useful leg gear for PLD/NIN and are far more useful to a LS during events than TP gear for DRK or THF or ensuring that BLUs can run through their limited MP pool faster and gain the effect "Whine for Refresh Recast Time Reduction".

PS: I hereby nominate the phrase "But BLU can self-chain Light" to be a new meme for FFXI lulz.

PPS: Fuck you to BLUs of my old LS for having two people take 80% of the Homam/Nashira gear.