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[Kenai]

why spend the money to develop a game of that quality when there is a market buying up these cheaply made crap games? thats how they're acting currently, and i dont see them changing.

You need skilled people to make a good game, lot of time and a fuck ton of money. Not every studio can afford such thing and want to take the risk when they don't know how large the fanbase will be. Now that the wii is in first position, more company will be willing to take the risk to develops on the Wii.

Why spend the money do develop a high quality game when cheap one sell? Same could be said for ps2, or any other console. A good game will always sell better, create a fanbase and will pay more in the end.

Agreed. The most popular system is ALWAYS going to get shovelware. I find it amazing how quickly people forget the undeniable heaps that were on PS2. The Wii's 3rd party does usually suck right now, but it's only been 11 months, and it does take time for good games to be made, especially if they only started work on them sometime this year. It actually does have a few quality 3rd party titles coming, like GH3, Zack and Wiki, Geometry Wars, Trauma Center, and Rayman RR2 (and I wouldn't be surprised if GH3 sold best on the Wii judging by preorder counts, though the 360 has a good shot too), even though they aren't nearly as anticipated as SSBB and Galaxy. I expect the big titles to show themselves as soon as devs can realisitcally make them, I'm sure they want some of that money...

[Falconblade]

why spend the money to develop a game of that quality when there is a market buying up these cheaply made crap games? thats how they're acting currently, and i dont see them changing.

You need skilled people to make a good game, lot of time and a fuck ton of money. Not every studio can afford such thing and want to take the risk when they don't know how large the fanbase will be. Now that the wii is in first position, more company will be willing to take the risk to develops on the Wii.

Why spend the money do develop a high quality game when cheap one sell? Same could be said for ps2, or any other console. A good game will always sell better, create a fanbase and will pay more in the end.

Agreed. The most popular system is ALWAYS going to get shovelware. I find it amazing how quickly people forget the undeniable heaps that were on PS2. The Wii's 3rd party does usually suck right now, but it's only been 11 months, and it does take time for good games to be made, especially if they only started work on them sometime this year. It actually does have a few quality 3rd party titles coming, like GH3, Zack and Wiki, Geometry Wars, Trauma Center, and Rayman RR2 (and I wouldn't be surprised if GH3 sold best on the Wii judging by preorder counts, though the 360 has a good shot too), even though they aren't nearly as anticipated as SSBB and Galaxy. I expect the big titles to show themselves as soon as devs can realisitcally make them, I'm sure they want some of that money...

Everytime people bring up 3rd party games, No more heroes is always ignored.

Its a fuckin' disgrace.

[Kaylia]

One thing the Wii will probably never get is sequel to popular series that were on last gen console (FF main series, metal gears, resident evil, etc). It's important to show there was some progress done since the last game, and Wii doesn't really allow that. For the rest, I'm sure there will be a lot more game developped on the console for the same reason more developper uses DS over psp (for both good games, and shovelware). It's just a matter of time with the current console sales.


Wasnt there a new crystal chronicle announced for the wii? The one on GC sucked, but the new one didnt seem too bad based on the trailer.

[Semitry]

does anyone know if the Half Life 2, Ep.1 and 2 in The Orange Box are going to be graphically updated for PS3/360 or if theyre just straight up ports with the same graphics from a couple years ago?

From what I've been reading the 360 version of HL2/EP1 is getting upgraded to EP2 standards but i haven't found a source yet just a bunch of people referring to it.

EDIT: It was in a 1up podcast saying they used new textures and models for HL2 on the 360.

[Kenai]

why spend the money to develop a game of that quality when there is a market buying up these cheaply made crap games? thats how they're acting currently, and i dont see them changing.

You need skilled people to make a good game, lot of time and a fuck ton of money. Not every studio can afford such thing and want to take the risk when they don't know how large the fanbase will be. Now that the wii is in first position, more company will be willing to take the risk to develops on the Wii.

Why spend the money do develop a high quality game when cheap one sell? Same could be said for ps2, or any other console. A good game will always sell better, create a fanbase and will pay more in the end.

Agreed. The most popular system is ALWAYS going to get shovelware. I find it amazing how quickly people forget the undeniable heaps that were on PS2. The Wii's 3rd party does usually suck right now, but it's only been 11 months, and it does take time for good games to be made, especially if they only started work on them sometime this year. It actually does have a few quality 3rd party titles coming, like GH3, Zack and Wiki, Geometry Wars, Trauma Center, and Rayman RR2 (and I wouldn't be surprised if GH3 sold best on the Wii judging by preorder counts, though the 360 has a good shot too), even though they aren't nearly as anticipated as SSBB and Galaxy. I expect the big titles to show themselves as soon as devs can realisitcally make them, I'm sure they want some of that money...

Everytime people bring up 3rd party games, No more heroes is always ignored.

Its a fuckin' disgrace.

It's next year. Same reason I didn't bring up NiGHTS, DQS, Endless Ocean ect ect ect. I got enough wallet strain this year alone, tyvm. :/

[izembo]

yea there is a new CC announced for the Wii. i'm hoping it'll be pretty good as my game library for the wii is quite small :/

[Po]

New CC for the DS too. And one that won't require 4 GBA's to play multiplayer . lol

[Appie]

Oh come on, everyone and their dog has a PS2 (100mil +), and if you were planning to sell your PS2 after buying a PS3 (if you were interested in one in the first place and not just wondering how the deal would be bad) you would only get $20 for fat ps2, and $30 for slim ps2 anyway. That's not even enough to buy a none psn game. The deal is good, I'd take that over the ps3 I did buy as I still play ps2 games on my ps2 and I don't use HD loader on it yet.

Main reason I wanted the BC of the 60gig was so I could put the old PS2 in the box and put it away (not to sell ever) and place the PS3 in the PS2's spot in the cupboard. Not having to go through the shit to add a space for a console in my cupboard is a huge plus for me.

[Alina]

Oh come on, everyone and their dog has a PS2 (100mil +), and if you were planning to sell your PS2 after buying a PS3 (if you were interested in one in the first place and not just wondering how the deal would be bad) you would only get $20 for fat ps2, and $30 for slim ps2 anyway. That's not even enough to buy a none psn game. The deal is good, I'd take that over the ps3 I did buy as I still play ps2 games on my ps2 and I don't use HD loader on it yet.

Main reason I wanted the BC of the 60gig was so I could put the old PS2 in the box and put it away (not to sell ever) and place the PS3 in the PS2's spot in the cupboard. Not having to go through the shit to add a space for a console in my cupboard is a huge plus for me.

Well, and not only that, someday everyone's PS2 will break, and then what? I doubt that will happen before the PS4 (or whatever) comes out, but it will happen eventually. Same for any disc based console. That's why I consider backwards compatibility to be so important.

[Semitry]

Oh come on, everyone and their dog has a PS2 (100mil +), and if you were planning to sell your PS2 after buying a PS3 (if you were interested in one in the first place and not just wondering how the deal would be bad) you would only get $20 for fat ps2, and $30 for slim ps2 anyway. That's not even enough to buy a none psn game. The deal is good, I'd take that over the ps3 I did buy as I still play ps2 games on my ps2 and I don't use HD loader on it yet.

Main reason I wanted the BC of the 60gig was so I could put the old PS2 in the box and put it away (not to sell ever) and place the PS3 in the PS2's spot in the cupboard. Not having to go through the shit to add a space for a console in my cupboard is a huge plus for me.

Well, and not only that, someday everyone's PS2 will break, and then what? I doubt that will happen before the PS4 (or whatever) comes out, but it will happen eventually. Same for any disc based console. That's why I consider backwards compatibility to be so important.

And if that happens, you can use the $100 you saved on buying the PS3 to buy another PS2 or two. The space saving problem is legitimate though but a cheaper console more then makes up for it to many.

The 360 Holiday bundle has been announced officially. The 360 and Elite will now be packed with Forza 2 and Marvel Ultimate Alliance.

http://www.xbox.com/en-us/community/...ayconsoles.htm

[Deejay]

What the shit that's gay. Wheres my free Forza....

[Po]

Early adopters man. It is the same story every where.

[Xavier]

And if that happens, you can use the $100 you saved on buying the PS3 to buy another PS2 or two. The space saving problem is legitimate though but a cheaper console more then makes up for it to many.

Kinda defeats the purpose of saving $100 in the first place.
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Early adopters will always get screwed, its just a given.

[Kazen]

I've never really had a console stop working.. ever (except a sega), my day of the release ps2 still works (It had a disc read error but I fixed it pretty easy by adjusting the disc tray, nothing major), hell my Ps1 still works lol, so I dont really think not having ps2 emulation is a big deal.

[Semitry]

And if that happens, you can use the $100 you saved on buying the PS3 to buy another PS2 or two. The space saving problem is legitimate though but a cheaper console more then makes up for it to many.

Kinda defeats the purpose of saving $100 in the first place.

Only if the person's PS2 breaks and they want to replace it. I'm sure that will be a small percentage whereas everyone will be enjoying the $100 savings.

[Xavier]

Is the PS3 "PS2/PS1" upscaling noticeable? Because you completely lose that on the $399 sku.

[Tajin]

It is noticeable, but not for the better sometimes.

Ace Combat 4 looks better though, so does Shadow of Colossus, but in MGS2 the posters look kind of deformed

[izembo]

it smooths jagged edges mostly, but that makes some texture loss on somethings and isnt always as nice then as the original if you needed the detail that got smoothed out ;p

[Exoduso]

It's worth it for PS2 games... makes everything look much sharper and all the weird lines around the edges/characters are basically eliminated.

You won't see that big a difference with PSX games though.

[Mysterio]

PS2 at 99 bucks is a bargain, rampant rumors for it to drop for the holidays

I think I may buy one just as a back-up, lol